We should replace his appearance bonus with a £40 M&S voucher.
Marcus Rashford (Out) | Rashford: “For me, personally, I think I'm ready for a new challenge and the next steps.”
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Even if he thrives at another club, feck him. He is just not into excelling for utd. Just as Sancho wasn’t. Sometimes its better to just move on.
No, not that - I just don't want more people clicking on the Daily Hiel.
i love how optimistic some people about getting a good fee after a decade of us never doing that in this situation
the only hope is Saudi, really
the only hope is Saudi, really
Ashworth not passing probation must have some of the players concerned that their cushy gigs at the club are at risk. Could have no complaints if Rashford was moved on.
Give him to Chelsea for a quid and give them £50m for Palmer.
If you're the manager of a club and you're looking to give your squad a boost, you aint looking at Rashford.
Unsellable.
He knows he’d never get away with the crap he serves up at another club. Most likely want to see out his contract and leave on a free.
He knows he’d never get away with the crap he serves up at another club. Most likely want to see out his contract and leave on a free.
Chelsea would show us the doorI want him gone as much as the next man, but given how we’ve wasted money before I’m not sure I’ll be getting all that excited about 30m going into the kitty.
Lookman could be an ideal replacement and then we would have 2 former Atlanta players on the wings. Find the next Emerson and the team will be in a much better place.
It hasn’t work out at all and I think it’s better to move on for both club and the player.
Mbuemo & Eze, realistic options with less wages to replace him. Kvaratskhelia and Wirtz, less realistic options. There are options out there to replace him in the market.
Mbuemo & Eze, realistic options with less wages to replace him. Kvaratskhelia and Wirtz, less realistic options. There are options out there to replace him in the market.
Lookman on fire and seems to have requisite physicality.
For those saying he will thrive elsewhere because Utd is a dysfunctional team… well.. he’s one of the biggest reasons why our team is dysfunctional. His selfishness and individualism is why we have no cohesive patterns of play among our forwards. That quality has apparently rubbed off on Garnacho as well.
I’m at the stage now that I think the more team players we have, the better. (Regardless of their individual abilities)
I don’t know about Rashy, but chances of Utd finally thriving will be higher.
I’m at the stage now that I think the more team players we have, the better. (Regardless of their individual abilities)
I don’t know about Rashy, but chances of Utd finally thriving will be higher.
I am actually wondering if Rashford would even be replaced to some extent? We do need to sign a goalscorer, but depending on the players we use in the areas of the pitch he'd play in...
Striker: Hojlund, Zirkzee
No.10s: Bruno, Mount, Garnacho, Amad
I do think we need a proven goalscorer as well, but in terms of number of players I can see us having enough. It's probably more the wing back or CM, maybe CB that we'll need in the Summer. So, I don't necessarily see Rashford's sale as us replacing him directly, if it comes about. I am struggling to see who will want him, who will pay his massive wages, and actually pay any kind of attractive transfer fee though... Would have to be Saudi or MLS surely? But even then I'm not sure.
(Assume we will try to offload Antony and Casemiro in the Summer with Eirksen's contract also ending. We will need to buy midfield players and specialist wing backs more than attackers in terms of actually having the personnel).
Striker: Hojlund, Zirkzee
No.10s: Bruno, Mount, Garnacho, Amad
I do think we need a proven goalscorer as well, but in terms of number of players I can see us having enough. It's probably more the wing back or CM, maybe CB that we'll need in the Summer. So, I don't necessarily see Rashford's sale as us replacing him directly, if it comes about. I am struggling to see who will want him, who will pay his massive wages, and actually pay any kind of attractive transfer fee though... Would have to be Saudi or MLS surely? But even then I'm not sure.
(Assume we will try to offload Antony and Casemiro in the Summer with Eirksen's contract also ending. We will need to buy midfield players and specialist wing backs more than attackers in terms of actually having the personnel).
Hope we get shut of him. His wages could be used to get in Davies who would replace him on the left as w enow play with wingbacks and the transfer fee could go towards Gyokeres.
I could see him in Saudi, PSG or weirdly I can see him in an Arsenal shirt but I don't know why.
It doesn't really matter if he excels at his next club or not as it's clear he won't do it here. 2 good seasons, 2 ok seasons and a tonne of rubbish.
I could see him in Saudi, PSG or weirdly I can see him in an Arsenal shirt but I don't know why.
It doesn't really matter if he excels at his next club or not as it's clear he won't do it here. 2 good seasons, 2 ok seasons and a tonne of rubbish.
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January? No chance.
Summer, possibly.
Summer, possibly.
What if the club and manager mutually decided to freeze him out? That's the only way I can see him leaving for the sake of his career, if he even gives a damn about it anymore.
I can't believe the number of posts suggesting we would regret this and that he will go elsewhere and thrive and become world class.
First of all, I don't think he is going anywhere, there seems to have been a bit of a correction in the transfer market, clubs don't seem to be willing to splash out the large sums as quickly and they seem a little more decerning then they were in the past, ie Osimhin, two summers ago several clubs talking of paying over 100 mil, a year later and no one wanted him because his numbers were slightly lower and he seemed to bring some baggage and he ends up being loaned to Turkey. Because of this I don't see any club splashing big cash on Rashford, or really much at all, due to the output and baggage that would come with him. On top of that, on a personal level, his brand is completely intertwined with United, and essentially Rashford is a brand, because he isn't really a footballer.
IF Rashford were to leave, we will not regret it in anyway, it would be an albatross removed from the neck of United, our football could progress and our club could move on from the constant distraction, I don't think people realize how transitional that move would be. On the other hand, Rashford will probably make a move to a sizeable club initially, but my guess is within a year he'll be loaned out and by the time he's 30 his playing career will be over. Rashford can't cut it at a club he grew up in, a club that caters to his every wish, a club that protects him, a club that prioritizes him, a club where somehow a portion of the fanbase still idolizes him, while he takes the piss out of said fans while going on the drink out of town, etc. He's protected by the media, he's protecting by the club, he's protected by the pundits, he's protected by the fans, and any sign of adversity he's throwing his toys out the pram and playing the victim. What happens if he goes to Spain, doesn't perform and the fans, club and media that owe him nothing start going in on him? I don't think he has the mental fortitude to survive a football career outside of United.
First of all, I don't think he is going anywhere, there seems to have been a bit of a correction in the transfer market, clubs don't seem to be willing to splash out the large sums as quickly and they seem a little more decerning then they were in the past, ie Osimhin, two summers ago several clubs talking of paying over 100 mil, a year later and no one wanted him because his numbers were slightly lower and he seemed to bring some baggage and he ends up being loaned to Turkey. Because of this I don't see any club splashing big cash on Rashford, or really much at all, due to the output and baggage that would come with him. On top of that, on a personal level, his brand is completely intertwined with United, and essentially Rashford is a brand, because he isn't really a footballer.
IF Rashford were to leave, we will not regret it in anyway, it would be an albatross removed from the neck of United, our football could progress and our club could move on from the constant distraction, I don't think people realize how transitional that move would be. On the other hand, Rashford will probably make a move to a sizeable club initially, but my guess is within a year he'll be loaned out and by the time he's 30 his playing career will be over. Rashford can't cut it at a club he grew up in, a club that caters to his every wish, a club that protects him, a club that prioritizes him, a club where somehow a portion of the fanbase still idolizes him, while he takes the piss out of said fans while going on the drink out of town, etc. He's protected by the media, he's protecting by the club, he's protected by the pundits, he's protected by the fans, and any sign of adversity he's throwing his toys out the pram and playing the victim. What happens if he goes to Spain, doesn't perform and the fans, club and media that owe him nothing start going in on him? I don't think he has the mental fortitude to survive a football career outside of United.
Why is everyone expecting us to replace him with a winger when we now use a system that has no wingers?
Jokes aside, they're the one place in the PL I could see him.
Pool/City are just not going to happen.
Not sure Arsenal could afford him/would target his profile.
Chelsea are ok to take riskier expensive players, London based, has mates there + huge upside for the club if they get him playing half decently again given his social media following/status in the game.
Total guess… wouldn’t be surprised if he still chose to stay. Or perhaps agree a loan to a club of his liking with Utd most likely part subsidising his wages?
Yeah, I do genuinely wonder if Maresca would fancy taking a punt on Rashford. He’s actually quite similar in skill set and body type to Nico Jackson. He’d be deployed as a striker here rather than a winger.
Could be another Sancho like reclamation project. He would of course have to considerably lower his wages. But if Sancho continues to look good here I wonder if that would make United refuse to do business with us again for fear of Rashford coming good as well.
Could be another Sancho like reclamation project. He would of course have to considerably lower his wages. But if Sancho continues to look good here I wonder if that would make United refuse to do business with us again for fear of Rashford coming good as well.
We'll replace him with a back up GK.
Bin him off to Newcastle for £40m and subsidise his wage if needs be. His attitude has been stinking the place up for years
I could see him wanting to be a star in America. Perhaps L.A. Galaxy?
a bit like Sancho - flashes of good productivity doesn't justify the huge wages.....
sadly I'd be saying goodbye - PSG for £50 would represent great business in selling a home grown player and clearing huge wages off the books
sadly I'd be saying goodbye - PSG for £50 would represent great business in selling a home grown player and clearing huge wages off the books
The pressure on him at United to be this 30+ goal a year striker hasn't helped him, I do think without the scrutiny of United, he would relax and be able to play his game. I'd be sad to see him go. He's a United academy player, and one who has done well for us (except the last 12-18 months). I had high hopes that he would be the one to break Rooney's record.
If he's going for that cheap, I'd buy him for £60 and just have him doing kick ups in my back yard.
Swap deal for Sancho
joking
joking
£30m is the transfer fee. It will free up around £350k per week in wages.
We could easily replace what he is now for £30m and £120k a week wages but what we should be doing is putting another £30-50m on top of that £30m and spending £200-250k a week on a major upgrade.
Who would want him? PSG? Chelsea doing another one of their 'I can fix her' projects?
We fumbled the bag when we gave him that ridiculous contract on the back of one of his purple patches. We should be willing to accept selling him below valuation.
We fumbled the bag when we gave him that ridiculous contract on the back of one of his purple patches. We should be willing to accept selling him below valuation.
And possibly one up top!
We should be asking for way more than £30m ffs.
For context:
Lewis Hall went to Newcastle for £28m .
Minteh to Brighton, £30m,
Igor Thiago* to Brentford, £30m,
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea £30m,
Archie Gray to Spurs £40m,
Max Kilman to West Ham £40m.
Niclas Fullkrug to West Ham £27m
* I don't know either
He is better than all of those and we should be looking for a fee that is upwards of £50m, enough of accepting low offers just to get rid.
What salaries were those on? That's the difference
You need to look at the entire financial package and think about it over the course of his contract.
When Rashford signed his deal we committed to something like £18m a season for the next 5 years.
No club is going to be able to afford him for £50m and cover his wages, I mean they might be able to by he’s not worth it.
So there’s going to be a balance found somewhere. If we get a high transfer fee it will be because he’s taking a wage cut and in that case to get him to agree to that we will need to compensate him or he won’t budge.
So it’s going to be his transfer fee that suffers if his new club are going to sanction higher wages or a transfer fee to cover.
Those saying he would be great elsewhere.. Im not so sure.
i agree a change of scenery would do him well, but he would require to change a hell of a lot on his outlook on football. How he lives, who he surrounds himself with etc. And to be honest i cant see him doing that at all. Not on the evidence ive seen the last few years. The desire just isnt there
You would probably see a bit of a uptake on performances then slip back in to usual form once he gets comfortable (see Sancho - *no that one recent game doesnt mean "he's back")
I would love to see him sort his sh*t out and go back to the old Marcus for us rather than going anywhere to be honest. But everything im seeing on the pitch recently just points elsewhere
i agree a change of scenery would do him well, but he would require to change a hell of a lot on his outlook on football. How he lives, who he surrounds himself with etc. And to be honest i cant see him doing that at all. Not on the evidence ive seen the last few years. The desire just isnt there
You would probably see a bit of a uptake on performances then slip back in to usual form once he gets comfortable (see Sancho - *no that one recent game doesnt mean "he's back")
I would love to see him sort his sh*t out and go back to the old Marcus for us rather than going anywhere to be honest. But everything im seeing on the pitch recently just points elsewhere
I think there is probably a very small chance of making any sort of positive sale out of this situation, we are basically hoping for a Saudi club to throw money at him and I think they have more sense than that now. Someone like Casemiro has more of a chance of earning a final payoff because he comes across as a proper professional footballer.
We could probably take a big loss and go for Rashford's preferred option - a low price "sale" to an American club but that would be a huge loss if we have to pay out wages or subsidise them.
I think a more realistic option will be to speak to Vivell and find the next up and coming attacking talent from somewhere on the unfashionable fringes of Europe, say Trabzanspor. Offer Rashford to them on loan with option to buy as makeweight in the deal to take on the young talented player. We at least get a look at a new talent while continuing to pay Rashford in the hope of him improving.
If Rashford somehow "kicks on" and applies himself there is a chance to regain some value by selling him at that point. If he does what we all probably suspect....sulks around on social media...then the club have sent a strong message about failing to perform leading to expulsion.
We have very few ways to minimise our financial losses with the Rashford situation, so we should make it count somehow in terms of reputation and destroying the culture of complacency amongst players.
We could probably take a big loss and go for Rashford's preferred option - a low price "sale" to an American club but that would be a huge loss if we have to pay out wages or subsidise them.
I think a more realistic option will be to speak to Vivell and find the next up and coming attacking talent from somewhere on the unfashionable fringes of Europe, say Trabzanspor. Offer Rashford to them on loan with option to buy as makeweight in the deal to take on the young talented player. We at least get a look at a new talent while continuing to pay Rashford in the hope of him improving.
If Rashford somehow "kicks on" and applies himself there is a chance to regain some value by selling him at that point. If he does what we all probably suspect....sulks around on social media...then the club have sent a strong message about failing to perform leading to expulsion.
We have very few ways to minimise our financial losses with the Rashford situation, so we should make it count somehow in terms of reputation and destroying the culture of complacency amongst players.
From the sounds of things PSR restrictions mean there's not probably going to be a £50m of additional funding available for transfer fees, so I'm curious about the sort of player we could get using the funds that Rashford's sale would generate / free up. You're right that it makes sense to include reduced wage costs in those figures.
What sort of budget would that leave us with? And which transfers of established forwards fell into that category last January (or last summer)?