Marcus Rashford (Out) | Rashford: “For me, personally, I think I'm ready for a new challenge and the next steps.”

Interesting move to leak this now, not sure how it makes sense unless it's the club hoping that this hitting the media will shock him into getting his act together?

If the club legitimately want him gone then seems a stupid thing to brief the media that we want him out and that he has "lifestyle" problems - not sure which clubs they expect to be lining-up to get in on that?
 
Antisocial said:
Interesting move to leak this now, not sure how it makes sense unless it's the club hoping that this hitting the media will shock him into getting his act together?

If the club legitimately want him gone then seems a stupid thing to brief the media that we want him out and that he has "lifestyle" problems - not sure which clubs they expect to be lining-up to get in on that?
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It’s not about money, it’s about sending a message.
 
HookedOnAPhelan said:
It’s not about money, it’s about sending a message.
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So the first option then - in which case it makes an interesting situation as he has a contract and the club really don't have much power in the situation if he ignores the message.
 
Hammondo said:
You don't live in the real world.
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I live in a world where Barcelona regularly make stupid decisions to over leverage themselves to sign ageing strikers or wingers from Leeds, where Bayern have splashed out on players like Mane, Kane and Sane, and where PSG have just lost Mbappe on a free and have a bunch of spare cash. Whether you want to accept it or not, one of them will buy him for the right price.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Such a weird situation, I’m convinced he’ll be incredible elsewhere, much better than Sancho at Chelsea for example. We’re just a terrible place to play football.
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Yeah i think this too. He will probably turn in to world class at some other big club. Could see him at Barcelona.
 
I struggle to see how Marcus Rashford improves at another club. His game is heavily reliant on his speed and dribbling ability, but he often lacks the decision-making and composure to capitalize on those strengths. Too often, he dribbles into defenders or runs himself into tight spaces with no clear plan.

Rashford's footwork isn't sharp enough to navigate between defenders in crowded areas, and he rarely looks up while dribbling to assess his options. Over the past three seasons, we've seen this pattern repeat itself. His signature move—dribbling down the left flank, cutting inside onto his right foot, and aiming for the far post—has become predictable. If fans can see it coming, you can bet opposing defenses have it figured out as well.

At this point, moving on might be best for both parties. If Rashford thrives elsewhere, good for him.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Such a weird situation, I’m convinced he’ll be incredible elsewhere, much better than Sancho at Chelsea for example. We’re just a terrible place to play football.
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I hope some other managers will share similar opinion, and fork out 70m for this potentially incredible player.
 
I've enjoyed Rashford time with United. Absolutely loved when he was promoted to the first team, scored a goal, and had to go finish his school work the next day. He's changed in the 9 years since then. Whatever system Amorim is after doesn't call for Rashford's strengths (running in behind?) -- but he's contracted to 2028 and on 325,000 pounds per week. He's going nowhere. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66221519
 
I’ve never really been his biggest fan, even when he was banging them in as all the flaws were still there to be seen, but surely his “branding” would still get us around 60 mil.

There is also no written rule that because he gets paid 350k a week at United that he needs to get the same or more elsewhere. If he wants he could sit and get paid 350k a week or maybe he could go to Spain ,France, Germany or even Saudi Arabia. He might fancy a different life style somewhere else. Who really knows.

As for selling it makes sense as it frees up money if you can get it done and we clearly need to sell somewhere to be able to bring in more players.
 
He's here until he turns 30. No sane club will match his wages and pay us a fee.
 
Curious about the prospects for replacing him if he goes for £30m odd.

Anyone lay their hands on a list of established forwards who moved for around £30m last summer or last January? I've lost track a bit of the kind of player that fee will buy you these days.

In my head that's the kind of money that could have brought in the likes of Ighalo or Weghorst full time rather than just on loan, but maybe I'm out of date.
 
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I don't know which club will meet his wage demands, but hopefully someone comes in for him, best for both him and the club.
 
crossy1686 said:
I live in a world where Barcelona regularly make stupid decisions to over leverage themselves to sign ageing strikers or wingers from Leeds, where Bayern have splashed out on players like Mane, Kane and Sane, and where PSG have just lost Mbappe on a free and have a bunch of spare cash. Whether you want to accept it or not, one of them will buy him for the right price.
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All of those players have been significantly better than Rashford.
 
I always think a good question to ask when deciding whether or not to keep a player is: "if this player was on the market, would you sign them?"

In this case, my first real instinct is to say...probably not.

With that in mind, I'm happy to listen to offers and feel it's a good opportunity for all parties. We need to give newer, hungrier, and fresher players a try. It's time for new ideas. Not hoping that the old ideas will eventually work.
 
I remember when other elite teams were always trying to sign our best players, unfortunately, I haven't seen this with Rashford so I doubt he will be going anywhere.
 
The options are as follows:

1. Flog him to Saudi
2. Convince an MLS team to make him their next golden boy
3. Sancho him (find him a non-prem loan, get his confidence back, convince Chelsea to buy him permanently).

We can’t just let him stink the place out until 2028. Need to set new standards and be ruthless, and that includes academy boys.
 
Personally I thought we should have cashed in a couple of seasons ago when PSG were sniffing around (if rumours were to be believed).

His performances don’t justify the wage and good performances are few and far between. When he’s on it he’s great but it seems to me he just doesn’t have the belief in himself. Maybe a new challenge might reinvigorate him, away from United. Problem is, anywhere else is going to be a huge pay cut for him.
 
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It will be tough getting rid of him. Hopefully some poor suckers think they can get him back to his best.
 
Adz_99 said:
Just do a straight swap for that Coventry City lad at Sporting in Jan.

I think he's been slightly better this season than last but he's not going to be tough to replace these days
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Do you see Rashford wanting to go to Portugal or Sporting being able to afford his wages?
 
witchtrials said:
Curious about the prospects for replacing him if he goes for £30m odd.

Anyone lay their hands on a list of established forwards who moved for around £30m last summer or last January? I've lost track a bit of the kind of player that fee will buy you these days.

In my head that's the kind of money that could have brought in the likes of Ighalo or Weghorst full time rather than just on loan, but maybe I'm out of date.
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Well, I’m hoping we have some kind of transfer kitty for January/summer window so the £30 million could go towards buying a more established, in-form forward at around £60 milllion.
 
When he leaves Utd, he'll nosedive into oblivion like his buddy Lingard.
 
Get rid of him with no remorse. I don't believe that he'll be any better in other clubs, his life energy is dry.
 
Wolves are talking about spending in January to avoid relegation. Maybe they could be tempted to spend 30m on Rashford although we'd have to subsidise some of his wages.
 
A cheeky swap deal with contract rebel Salah? No wait I'm talking crazy.. Salah and Trent.
 
He is going nowhere. No club can afford £300,000 a week for him and he doesn't have the hunger to go anywhere else and kickstart himself. He'll ride out the biggest contract he'll ever get and then it's something like Inter Miami on a free.
 
yeah I'm not getting my hopes up

if we could get anyone to give us a fee and pay all his wages it'd be a miracle
 
witchtrials said:
Curious about the prospects for replacing him if he goes for £30m odd.

Anyone lay their hands on a list of established forwards who moved for around £30m last summer or last January? I've lost track a bit of the kind of player that fee will buy you these days.

In my head that's the kind of money that could have brought in the likes of Ighalo or Weghorst full time rather than just on loan, but maybe I'm out of date.
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Think of the savings in wages. Over £300k a week for another 3 years is another £50m odd plus £30m transfer is £80m to go towards a new player.

That could be a £50m signing on £150k a week for 4 years. That's similar to Anthony Gordon to Newcastle or Pedro Neto to Chelsea if we could manage similar, though more in the mould of a Cunha type than a winger.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Such a weird situation, I’m convinced he’ll be incredible elsewhere, much better than Sancho at Chelsea for example. We’re just a terrible place to play football.
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We are a terrible place to play but has anyone left us in the last 10 years and been much good anywhere else?
 
Hammondo said:
Di Maria, Herrera, Sancho maybe. There are more but it just depends on what you mean by "much good".
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Di Maria was world class, he was also generally amazing for us pre robbery but obviously just hated Manchester, grew to hate LVG and fecked off but he’s basically been consistently brilliant everywhere he’s been. Hes still a ratty little snake but I can’t deny how good he is. Depay ended up having a top level career as well I guess without ever really being the main guy anywhere.

Herrera was ok for PSG (mainly because he was only ever an ok player), I’m not sure if Sancho’s has really done much outside of being a decent squad player for Chelsea. Better than here, much worse than Dortmund I guess.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Di Maria was world class, he was also generally amazing for us pre robbery but obviously just hated Manchester, grew to hate LVG and fecked off but he’s basically been consistently brilliant everywhere he’s been. Hes still a ratty little snake but I can’t deny how good he is. Depay ended up having a top level career as well I guess without ever really being the main guy anywhere.

Herrera was ok for PSG (mainly because he was only ever an ok player), I’m not sure if Sancho’s has really done much outside of being a decent squad player for Chelsea. Better than here, much worse than Dortmund I guess.
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What are blind for example?
 
Wing Attack Plan R said:
I've enjoyed Rashford time with United. Absolutely loved when he was promoted to the first team, scored a goal, and had to go finish his school work the next day. He's changed in the 9 years since then. Whatever system Amorim is after doesn't call for Rashford's strengths (running in behind?) -- but he's contracted to 2028 and on 325,000 pounds per week. He's going nowhere. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66221519
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No, he's on £325k a week if we're playing in the CL, which we're not, which means him and the rest of the lads take a 25% cut in salary. He's currently on less than £250k a week.
 
I can understand why we'd want to sell him, but I do expect he'll prosper at another club. If it's £50m+ selling is reasonable, but I don't think it'll be easy to find another player that matches the goal tallies he amassed in all but 2 seasons. I don't think he really suits Amorim's setup tbh. That being said I don't think we're going anywhere positive under INEOS anyway, so it's probably all irrelevant.
 
crossy1686 said:
No, he's on £325k a week if we're playing in the CL, which we're not, which means him and the rest of the lads take a 25% cut in salary. He's currently on less than £250k a week.
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That's like giving him a 40 quid gift voucher. No wonder he's grumpy all the time.
 
Genuinely curious why people think he would thrive at another club. Obviously there’s a clear lack of motivation every time he plays but his overall game has taken a nosedive, relies heavily on pace which he has lost to get away from defenders and doesn’t have a great footballing iq in other areas to make up for it. Every time he gets the ball I expect him to lose it which he mostly does.

If he were to leave he’d fade into obscurity but I believe we are stuck with him because no club who could afford his wages would go anywhere near him.
 
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