Yeah can't imagine anyone getting over that.... besides all the actual elite players of course.
Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids
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A new low in terms of excuses.
Come back to me when he has his effigies burned, or a bunch of angry blokes turn up at his doorstep.
Just because your superior is shit doesn't mean you have to be shit as well, if that's your take it says more about you than anything elseIf my manager is shit then I will be more likely turn to being shit myself within his company! There's roles for a reason to run a company or a club.
Judging the top played employee when the whole team is shit aswell as primarily the manager themselves (who employed all these shit employees) seems like an 'obvious' thing to do by many people; especially the people from downstairs roles looking up at them
Rashford shouldn't be our top payed player or even top played - but I see too many holes in Ten Hag's managerial ability to single out Rashford's performances and work rate as primarily his own problem. Ten Hag doesn't even have the balls to drop him and try get Rashford out of his feet and his mind out of his arse.
I'm just blaming the root of the problem rather than the cause of the problem.
Get a top level manager in or even a top level DOF which we seemed to, then decide if Rashford's good enough in a better system.
All that Ten Hag does is improve players individual ability as we saw both at Ajax and United first season where the team was built for him by - the roles of the people above; rather than build it for himself. I can mention so many players Ten Hag has improved individually in his managerial career - but has Ten Hag ever built an amazing tactical system that gets mostly both the players and the fans in ultimate confidence because they have an ability to see or understand a system?
No, not really.
And I can personally see players with lower work rate because they have like 1/10th of the work rate of park ji sung or even Antony being affected by this.
Funnily, enough - I think Ten Hag has overvalued 'work rate mentality' as a single way to judge players especially with his purchases - Antony, Onana, Malacia, Mount, Amrabat, Weghorst, Casemiro and Lisandro Martinez - are all extremely hard workers with strong mentality - but arguably just 1 or at maximum 2 players have had other top abilities within themselves to look like top purchases at this club. Ten Hag has worked better with the players already at the club than the players he himself has bought in.
He doesn't track back because of MySpace and we invent mental health issues for him because we prefer that narrative to drawing the conclusion he's a bit crap?
Just get rid and bring this circus to a close.
one good season and he thinks he’s gods gift.
one good season and he thinks he’s gods gift.
Unlike the 3 players you have mentioned, other than PSG I just don't see any other club can afford Rashford's wages. He still has 4 years left on his existing contract. The market for selling Rashford is extremely small.
It's not all the same, i.e. a single group with illegitimate criticism. The criticism he has warranted throughout this season is lack of effort, which is a pretty basic requirement. He's been woefully out of form, but it is the aforementioned shite work ethic that has seen him lose a lot of people who'd otherwise sing his praises.
I think he'd benefit from a change of scenery to be honest.
The fact that there is a club who have had a longstanding interest in him, and are about to lose their best player who plays in Rashford's position, is exactly why we will be able to sell him this summer for well over 60m if we wanted to. It doesn't matter if multiple clubs aren't in for him. The interest from one club alone is enough to command a big fee for a player, as we saw with the Antony transfer from Ajax.
We can add that to the list of what Rashford needs to perform at his best;
Needs a girlfriend
Needs to play on the left
Needs Shaw behind him
Needs to not be depressed
Needs the right winger to be performing
Needs to not be the main man
Needs the internet to be deleted
Good luck with PSG's interest in Rashford as Mbappe's replacement.
Cheers. Some pretty reliable journalists have said there's genuine interest from PSGs side, so I don't think we'll need much luck to receive an offer from them.
Its a marvel Rashford believes people are criticizing his personsal life choices rather than his awful attitude and work rate whilst playing for a club he claims to love dear.
A lot of wild assumptions there....you should apply for a job at Talksport
Well said.
Had a feeling the purple patch wouldn't last too long but wasn't expecting things to be this bad. Its a crying shame that the squad has been so badly managed as he shouldn't be anywhere near the bench never mind starting. You'd think he was prime Mbappe the way he strolls about. He's a defenders dream opponent - he'll never make a challenge and if you don't move out of his way he'll run into you. A more passive player you'd never meet
Just seen the PRashford act. Not really interested in words, to be honest. Show it on the pitch, don't tell us, and especially not by using a crafted piece.
But I think the club can do a lot better in that position anyway.
But I think the club can do a lot better in that position anyway.
Elite players are able to block out outside noise, it's one of the reasons they are elite in the first place as there have been countless footballers that had unbelievable talent but couldn't handle the pressure/criticism/fame etc.
Yeah I really think people have blinders on when it comes to "how will we replace his production?" when the truth is his production over his 8 years here isn't anything special and that's not counting his general play or anything else.
They seem more focused on signing a CF like Osimhen, as Goncalo Ramos has been a bust.
Barcola has shown some very promising signs the last couple months and they also have Kolo Muani who is probably best as a wide forward on the left. That is two young right footed forwards who play best on the left in which they have invested recently. And Ousmane Dembele has the RW locked down.
Given that PSG clearly had real interest in Rashford as an Mbappe replacement in the past, its pretty natural to have that link continue to pop up in the media. But they invested big in two guys who are best in Rashford's best position last summer.
This.
At 26 years old, he has already downed tools on four managers so far in his United career! Mourinho, Solsjkaer, Ragnick and now ETH. Managers are not beyond criticism, but he has been the common thread of underperformance across all of these different managerial stints.
PSG is basically linked with everyone in the market because of Mbappe's potential departure. From Rafael Leao to Osimehn.
I’d love to see the explanation of how he downed tools on Ole or Mourinho. Rangnick I can understand, although I don’t agree with it. He’s also more or less responsible for Erik still being manager after his efforts last season.
Just read his apology.
Dude need to grow up. He is 26...
Dude need to grow up. He is 26...
Nobody’s going to give you one. All you have to do is watch the games at the end of their respective tenures, and if that doesn’t convince you that he downed tools then no explanation will change your mind.
No he’s absolutely not, many other players in the squad were much more influential inside and outside the pitch last season. But starting him regularly this season is one of the reasons why ETH is facing the sack. And it’ll be the same for the next manager if they’re naive about him.
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He wasn’t solely responsible for keeping ETH in a job. But no other player was more influential on the pitch.
I disagree.
Bruno is the only other in with a shout in fairness. Who would you have above him?
That is some proper mental gymnastics. Mild criticism online is why Rashford plays like crap. Couldn't make it up. How do you think Rashford would fair in the 70s and 80s dealing with racist hooligans? Or the absolute shitstorm that Beckham had when he was sent off for England?
MySpace? Is he tracking back in time to the 1990s?
Get in you beauty!
What a cracking goal
What a cracking goal
The goal was more of the rashford we want to see.
Great if it does happen, but that’s part of the issue with Rashford. He’s a patchy player who either goes on bursts of goals or he does absolutely nothing because he’s quite crap in the buildup. Very similar player to Son in that regardBump
Price just went up. PSG need to be quick with their bid.
I don't think anyone doubts his talent tbh and it takes a lot of talent to score a goal like that against opposition like City - But imo the little glimpses of talent we see don't mean we should keep him long term, I would personally rather have a player of Luis Diaz's profile. Well done to Rashy though, hope he scores another in the 2nd half and hope he goes on to score/assist a few more goals from here till the end of the season - That consistency is what I'd love to see.
Well. That wasn't great.