Marcus Rashford loan move?

Sassy Colin said:
The exception that proves the rule?
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Not even the exception since Beckham went on loan before establishing himself in the United team. I don't know any player that has been as established as Rashford benefitting from a loan away at their stage of career.

Closest I can think of is Wilshere and he looks set to leave Arsenal.
 
Some moronic opinions in this thread. He clearly isn't going anywhere he's 20 and gets a lot of playing time and no it doesn't matter if its as a wide forward ffs.

At most other clubs he'd have been shipped out on loan for the last couple of seasons but instead he's getting games with us and somehow its a bad thing because he's not playing every game.
 
SS said:
He'll have to share the backup spot with Martial too, if we sign a backup striker and RW. Can't say I see Mourinho rotating Sanchez much, so unless Sanchez carries his poor form into next season, I don't see Rashford getting "plenty" of minutes when he won't even be the clear 2nd choice option.
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If we go into next season with the attacking options I posted, then I believe he'll have plenty of games.
 
Damien said:
I don't see us loaning him out.

Minutes played last season (games played in):
  1. Nemanja Matic - 4156 (49)
  2. David de Gea - 4140 (46)
  3. Romelu Lukaku - 4071 (51)
  4. Chris Smalling - 3975 (46)
  5. Antonio Valencia - 3422 (39)
  6. Ashley Young - 3098 (38)
  7. Paul Pogba - 2879 (37)
  8. Juan Mata - 2677 (40)
  9. Marcus Rashford - 2676 (52)
  10. Jesse Lingard - 2652 (48)
  11. Victor Lindelof - 2361 (29)
  12. Anthony Martial - 2337 (45)
  13. Ander Herrera - 2209 (39)
  14. Phil Jones - 2152 (25)
None of our players played in more matches than him and he was often one of the first subs picked off the bench. Might happen if we bring in another attacker and keep Martial but we'll likely be in contract discussions with Rashford soon so we might prefer to keep him in the squad and show he can get games here - even if not in his preferred position.
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Since when did Mata get so many minutes. I swear it felt like he was on the bench all season :lol:
 
If you were in his shoes would you accept a loan?

I wouldn't. I'd rather play left wing (sub left wing) at Utd for another year than up front for Leicester or Newcastle. If I were Rashford I'd fancy my chances if Lukaku is out to make the spot my own whereas on loan I wouldn't be their player so they have more reason to dump me.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
We are not sending a Utd lad on loan who has played 35 matches last season in PL
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My first thought too, but say, if we were to strengthen our attacking options this summer (read: someone from the transfer forum threads..), would it then be better to get rid of, say, Mata or seeing Rashford get some more experience? I'd opt for a loan move for Rashford (if there's guarenteed play time - big if).

In other words: if we are looking to offload someone in the attack, I'd rather see him getting play time somewhere else rather than loosing it - if we are looking to sign someone.

if we're not signing an attacker, I think he should surely stay? He's twenty. Has been involved in over a hundred matches and scored over thirty for us, and

Marcus Rashford is
t w e n t y
years old.

That's amazing.
 
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The Bloody-Nine said:
Yes, he looked so care free and unshackled in a meaningless friendly against the mighty Costa Rica. Finally away from the dastardly Mourinho who makes him play poorly.

Jose out, Southgate in.
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Change Costa Rica and replace that with Brighton and I don’t see much different. Except for him being dogshite.
 
Boycott said:
If you were in his shoes would you accept a loan?

I wouldn't. I'd rather play left wing (sub left wing) at Utd for another year than up front for Leicester or Newcastle. If I were Rashford I'd fancy my chances if Lukaku is out to make the spot my own whereas on loan I wouldn't be their player so they have more reason to dump me.
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I’d rather go on loan and play week in week out. Your looking at this all wrong the loan club isn’t doing a player of Rashford’s quality a favour; he’s doing them a favour. Rashford going to Leicester is the equivalent of Bale coming to us on loan... would we dump Bale because Rashford’s our player so we’d rather develop him than play Bale? No!
 
Mainoldo said:
I’d rather go on loan and play week in week out. Your looking at this all wrong the loan club isn’t doing a player of Rashford’s quality a favour; he’s doing them a favour. Rashford going to Leicester is the equivalent of Bale coming to us on loan... would we dump Bale because Rashford’s our player so we’d rather develop him than play Bale? No!
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If he struggles in a mid-table team it makes his future at Utd more uncertain. Lower quality team mates = fewer chances and/or more defending to do. No specific expectation so players slack off. He's young enough to hedge his bets on another season rotating at Utd.

Rashford at Leicester might not even start at CF because Vardy is there. Vardy scored more PL goals than Lukaku.
 
Mainoldo said:
I’d rather go on loan and play week in week out. Your looking at this all wrong the loan club isn’t doing a player of Rashford’s quality a favour; he’s doing them a favour. Rashford going to Leicester is the equivalent of Bale coming to us on loan... would we dump Bale because Rashford’s our player so we’d rather develop him than play Bale? No!
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No it's not. Vardy is a better centre forward than Rashford. Not as talented but more proven, more consistent.

Rashford would have to fight his way into the Leicester side. Bale would walk into ours.
 
The only advantage of him going on loan would be the reality check of sitting on Leicester's bench behind Okazaki or Slimani if he performs like he did at United during spells last season.

Maybe he might realise he doesn't have it so bad at United after all.
 
Remind me how many other PL clubs give their 20 year olds the same amount of playing time we give Rashford?

... Yeah didn't think so
 
I like how the OP Article says he's a 20 year old who started just 17 times.
Yeah, a teenager/young adult started just under half the premier league matches for Manchester United, whilst coming on as a sub in others, scoring and setting up a healthy amount of goals and getting three champions league goals.
Click bait shite to be ignored
 
Hans Moleman said:
Utter nothing story. The Mail piece doesn't say we want to loan him out, it just says "IF" Mourinho doesn't give him regular football then other interested clubs would. That's it. No substance at all.

Of course teams are interested in Rashford on loan. There's not a club in the world who wouldn't take that deal. Absolutely zero chance we'd do it though. End of story.
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This should /End the thread.
 
I support this idea. He needs to fix his decision making and loan move will help it , as long as we buy backup striker to Lukaku , i am okay with loaning him out.
 
maniwin said:
I support this idea. He needs to fix his decision making and loan move will help it , as long as we buy backup striker to Lukaku , i am okay with loaning him out.
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So if the club loans him out and buys a back up to Lukaku (which won't be cheap in the current market), after he has improved his decision making and comes back the following season, the club will have 3 players competing for one position and he will get even less minutes?
 
We need him in our squad. I think he could easily stagnate further if he gets a bad loan, which happens often. His development is better served playing for us imo.
 
Mainoldo said:
Well put it on reverse name me a youth player that spent the majority of his development on the wing to then become the clubs main striker? It’s all relative... but what I do know is loan moves help player development when they lack consistent first team football and Rashford is not developing because of this.
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Henry, Diego Costa, Griezmann, even Messi moved from RW to central position. There are many more if anyone can take few mins to search.
 
Would make zero sense to loan him out now after a World Cup year. Jose's first season would have been the year to loan him out for actual healthy game time. The kid is completely in Jose's plans going forward and the minutes reflect that.

I don't understand why chancy journalists write these sort of articles as if the football community doesn't have a clue about their own players.
 
roonster09 said:
Henry, Diego Costa, Griezmann, even Messi moved from RW to central position. There are many more if anyone can take few mins to search.
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Henry was a crap LW and was sold because of it. Messi? What are you talking about, he was flipping Messi he can play anywhere, he wasn’t playing there for development. Diego Costa well I can’t confirm or deny as I didn’t follow him in China or Portugal.
 
Every single club in the PL would want Rashford, not just on loan but to buy

He's not going anywhere though
 
Mainoldo said:
Henry was a crap LW and was sold because of it. Messi? What are you talking about, he was flipping Messi he can play anywhere, he wasn’t playing there for development. Diego Costa well I can’t confirm or deny as I didn’t follow him in China or Portugal.
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Henry being crap LW doesn't mean he didn't play as winger in his early years. Messi also used to play as RF till 2009 and then Pep changed his position to centrally. Diego Costa was a sidekick to Falcao in Atletico Madrid, playing as left winger. After Falcao was sold to Monaco, Costa was played as CF and he was just amazing. Then there was RVP who used to play as winger in his early days.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
No it's not. Vardy is a better centre forward than Rashford. Not as talented but more proven, more consistent.

Rashford would have to fight his way into the Leicester side. Bale would walk into ours.
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I’m sure Leicester plays 442! Plus why does everyone think he’ll go on loan to sit on the bench? Yes Bale would walk into our team because he’s a better player than all of our attack. Rashford would walk into over half the leagues attack because he’s a better player. He’s not going to be Ajoze Perez’s understudy.
 
roonster09 said:
Henry being crap LW doesn't mean he didn't play as winger in his early years. Messi also used to play as RF till 2009 and then Pep changed his position to centrally. Diego Costa was a sidekick to Falcao in Atletico Madrid, playing as left winger. After Falcao was sold to Monaco, Costa was played as CF and he was just amazing. Then there was RVP who used to play as winger in his early days.
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Go find out what my actual question was! Diego Costa played upfront off Falcao not on the wing. Falcao moved and he became number 1.
 
Mainoldo said:
Go find out what my actual question was! Diego Costa played upfront off Falcao not on the wing. Falcao moved and he became number 1.
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Mainoldo said:
Well put it on reverse name me a youth player that spent the majority of his development on the wing to then become the clubs main striker? It’s all relative... but what I do know is loan moves help player development when they lack consistent first team football and Rashford is not developing because of this.
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For that I have already named few, even if you want to discard Messi because he is Messi then we have Henry, RVP, Griezmann too.

Henry might be crap at Juventus but he won league title for Monaco playing as LW.

Also not sure why you want to restrict it to just "Winger to striker". There are so many great players who played in completely different position in their youth days and then switched position when they played professional football.
 
I'm all for Rashford going out on loan and playing week in week out as a centre forward and obviously we have a clause in deal to recall him at anytime.

If Martial is going to be sold then I would keep him here but with Sanchez, Martial, Lukaku and a potential signing I think it is best for him and us long term. 50+ apps from bench and mostly out of position is not really going to help again as 7/10 he was terrible last season.
 
Martial is a muc hbetter winger and he won't be replacing Lukaku any time soon as a striker. I'd loan out Rashford, especially if Mata stays and a new wide man comes in (Bale, Greizmann, Willian..etc).

Leicester would be a great option for him. They're a good attacking team and he'll start most games beside Vardy in a 442.
 
roonster09 said:
For that I have already named few, even if you want to discard Messi because he is Messi then we have Henry, RVP, Griezmann too.

Henry might be crap at Juventus but he won league title for Monaco playing as LW.

Also not sure why you want to restrict it to just "Winger to striker". There are so many great players who played in completely different position in their youth days and then switched position when they played professional football.
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Okay to be clear.. I’m talking about a striker that is played out wide for development who then returns to being a striker. The example with Henry was that it didn’t work he was a rubbish winger. In all honest Cristiano Ronaldo was a striker, he played as a winger because of his attributes but I’m sure it was predicted he would be a striker as he matured... he did eventually but like Messi he’s an exceptional case.

Griezmann was a winger not a striker he was moved into a number 10 which was a clever move. RVP I’ll stand corrected as he came through as a striker and was then placed as a winger for his development Arsenal and returned to be a world class striker. But he was abit of a shit winger too lol. So we could see that with Rashford.

On the converted point, I don’t like that personally myself. It’s why a lot of people here don’t belive Rashford is a striker because he player RW in the youth team or why Valencia is for some reason still a RW playing RB. People can change positions they are not robots.
 
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Trizy said:
Martial is a muc hbetter winger and he won't be replacing Lukaku any time soon as a striker. I'd loan out Rashford, especially if Mata stays and a new wide man comes in (Bale, Greizmann, Willian..etc).

Leicester would be a great option for him. They're a good attacking team and he'll start most games beside Vardy in a 442.
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I agree with your points. If we get a Bale Rashford won’t get enough playing time for me a loan benefits ‘us’. Martial can be a great inside forward if we play a more attacking style.
 
Mainoldo said:
Okay to be clear.. I’m talking about a striker that is played out wide for development who then returns to being a striker. The example with Henry was that it didn’t work he was a rubbish winger. In all honest Cristiano Ronaldo was a striker, he played as a winger because of his attributes but I’m sure it was predicted he would be a striker as he matured... he did eventually but like Messi he’s an exceptional case.

Griezmann was a winger not a striker he was moved into a number 10 which was a clever move. RVP I’ll stand corrected as he came through as a striker and was then placed as a winger for his development Arsenal and returned to be a world class striker. But he was abit of a shit winger too lol. So we could see that with Rashford.

On the converted point, I don’t like that personally myself. It’s why a lot of people here don’t belive Rashford is a striker because he player RW in the youth team or why Valencia is for some reason still a RW playing RB. People can change positions they are not robots.
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Apparently Henry started as a striker, then moved to winger position and then finally back to striker position. Not sure how true it is but read is while searching for players today.

Anyways I don't think Rashford should be striker( thought he should be playing as striker but after watching his performances as LW and striker, think he is more suited to winger position), he has lot of attributes which suits him as winger or behind the striker. If he can master how to play as RW then he will have a very good career as he can play in all 3 attacking positions.
 
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