It's also hardly rocket science that a manager is going to play his best players. It's his job on the line, after all.
Rashford was presented with plenty of opportunities to play. Do you think he impressed enough?
Marcus Rashford loan move?
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Rashford was presented with plenty of opportunities to play. Do you think he impressed enough?
Isn't he?
Marcus Rashford/Cristiano Ronaldo at the age of 20
Club appearances: 123/121
Club goals: 32/20
International caps: 19/29
International goals: 3/9
Seems ok to me.
He is doing brilliantly well. People seem to forget that he is younger than Scott Mctominay.
'despite his limited appearances' it says, yet highlights that he made 35 premiership appearances...more than last season and the fact that there's only 38 games in a season!!
No chance of this happening at all.
No chance of this happening at all.
He impressed against Liverpool and was out of the team the next week.
Martial impressed the three games before we brought in Sanchez but was still frozen out.
I don't care about Mourinho's job, I care about the future and what's best for this club (btw I support Mourinho).
Lukaku might be more suited to what Mourinho wants from his striker but it doesn't mean he should show no willingness to build for the future.
Why ever not? Rashford wouldn't be the first player to move to a rival club. United have signed several players from Arsenal and Chelsea in recent years.
There is absolutely zero chance he will go out on loan and rightly so.
Imagine the scenario next season... we fail to break down a resolute Brighton at home and the match finishes 0-0. Meanwhile, Rashford scores a brace to earn 3 points for another Premier League team... I’m sure people would be queuing up to pat Mourinho on the back for sending Rashford on loan.
Why are so many modern football fans this impatient? He’s progressing fine and he will continue to get better. He’s 20 years old... he will be inconsistent at that age but we’ve seen what he is capable of on a good day.
Imagine the scenario next season... we fail to break down a resolute Brighton at home and the match finishes 0-0. Meanwhile, Rashford scores a brace to earn 3 points for another Premier League team... I’m sure people would be queuing up to pat Mourinho on the back for sending Rashford on loan.
Why are so many modern football fans this impatient? He’s progressing fine and he will continue to get better. He’s 20 years old... he will be inconsistent at that age but we’ve seen what he is capable of on a good day.
They were both shit decisions. We’re not stupid.
If this happens we should bust our balls to get involved, hopefully we've got a good relationship after TFM as well. He would be guaranteed games as first choice striker and we have undoubtedly improved RLC which might work in our favour. Rashford and Zaha would be 
Leicester is the club that I've felt he'd suit on loan. He needs space in behind to attack and they create that with their style of play. Not sure how much good it does for him in terms of playing here though, where I think he needs to be a more rounded attacker.
Yep agreed.
And when he has played up top or us he hasn't been great.
I wouldn't be against a loan move for him, think it could be the making of him tbh.
This the type of manouvere that will ultimately make or break Rashford's career. It's used now after 2 seasons of being within the first team as a way of 'speeding him up' if he can. If he can't he will deemed not good enough.
I am not happy about that because this guys game's has reduced by a good 20% due to his lack of games upfront added to the fact that he plays under a manager who likes strikers of the mould of Ibrahimovic & Lukaku in comparison to Martial & Rashford - the tactics ultimately resemble that and you have Rashford trying to be ronaldo on the wing and then dider drogba in the centre.
Keep him and keep him purely because Jose cannot go through another win-less season; there is the possibility that a manager might comes that does not play with a sole target man and prefer's strikers like Martial & rashford instead - which in this day is way more common.
If he goes to Palace or leicster and struggles- his confidence and everything has the chance of breaking & everyone will pretend like he was just another guy who just was not good enough; like character within a video game with a potential they did not reach. They are humans and he is a young one at that- needing the correct rising and moves to be an important player for Manchester United.
I am not happy about that because this guys game's has reduced by a good 20% due to his lack of games upfront added to the fact that he plays under a manager who likes strikers of the mould of Ibrahimovic & Lukaku in comparison to Martial & Rashford - the tactics ultimately resemble that and you have Rashford trying to be ronaldo on the wing and then dider drogba in the centre.
Keep him and keep him purely because Jose cannot go through another win-less season; there is the possibility that a manager might comes that does not play with a sole target man and prefer's strikers like Martial & rashford instead - which in this day is way more common.
If he goes to Palace or leicster and struggles- his confidence and everything has the chance of breaking & everyone will pretend like he was just another guy who just was not good enough; like character within a video game with a potential they did not reach. They are humans and he is a young one at that- needing the correct rising and moves to be an important player for Manchester United.
I would assume we'd be looking at him playing the same role he did with Vardy last Thursday for England, only with us Vardy's movement is much better he drifts wider creating the space for Iheanacho to surge forward into playing neat one - two passes with each other, so he would be both back up for Vardy and competition for Iheanacho
For goodness sake, there is no need to talk about how he would play with Vardy. He’s not going to Leicester, or Spurs or anywhere else on loan. He’s a first team player and will be at Utd next year.
In that case he better be a backup here. Lol
So at Leicester, Rashford wouldn’t be the main striker and expected to be in competition for a number 10 role / out wide. He’d probably get the same amount of game time given the natural inclination of the manager to favour his own players.
feck no
If we're loaning him out I think we should be using him as leverage in transfer dealings. For example, he could be very valuable for Spurs and that might lubricate a down-to-earth deal for Alderweireld.
If it was going to happen, it needs to be to somewhere he plays week in week out. I can’t see why it’s necessary now though. He’s improving and it feels like he gets plenty of game time, although that might be reduced with incoming players
Bring Vardy in as an alternative to Lukaku, send Rashford there to develop into the #9 role.
*first team auxiliary advanced fullback.
Look how much happier he looked for England away from Jose - he needs that kind of carefree mentality while he evolves as a player elsewhere.
All of the chimps using minutes played as some kind of argument that his developmental trajectory hasn’t plateaued under Jose need to stop lying to themselves - he looks frustrated and ultimately woeful for most of those minutes.
Can you expand on this bullshit please?
That's quite of a lot of players in the squad probably apart from Lukaku, Matic and a few others - considering that number of players that are frustrated under Jose is more likely to increase than decrease in this penultimate year - loaning Rashford will do no one no good; all it is going to do is end his United career for no good if by some chance he doesn't adapt well to Leicester City.
Yes, he looked so care free and unshackled in a meaningless friendly against the mighty Costa Rica. Finally away from the dastardly Mourinho who makes him play poorly.
Jose out, Southgate in.
Don't like him on the left, and if Jose is after a big lump to back up Lukaku then he might as well go on loan.
He'd rip it up under Silva at Everton imo, and it would bring him on for when he's ready to do the same at United.
He'd rip it up under Silva at Everton imo, and it would bring him on for when he's ready to do the same at United.
Can't see it happening, Mourinho knows the media will be eager to rip him to shreds if he let a young homegrown player leave on loan in preference of an older player, as would the Man Utd crowd screaming bloody murder.
Also didn't hurt Messi to start his career wide, nor Thierry Henry or Van Persie etc, at 20 the most important factor is minutes to develop, which he's getting.
Also didn't hurt Messi to start his career wide, nor Thierry Henry or Van Persie etc, at 20 the most important factor is minutes to develop, which he's getting.
Perhaps someone knows, in United's history, how many 20 year olds were 1st team starters.
No. He'll get plenty of games next season, even if he isn't a first team regular.
I would like to see him rotate Alexis Sanchez in the left forward role, where, in my opinion, he's at his best.
Sanchez/Rashford - Lukaku/Striker - Winger/Lingard
I would like to see him rotate Alexis Sanchez in the left forward role, where, in my opinion, he's at his best.
Sanchez/Rashford - Lukaku/Striker - Winger/Lingard
Hasn’t Rashford himself said he sees himself as a striker ? If so then use him as back up to Lukaku and permanently as a striker instead of out wide, starting all cup games and a good few league games whilst concentrating on one position will do Rashford wonders.
The exception that proves the rule?
The loan system is a glorified shop window. How many players actually return from their loans better than when they left and ready for the first team? Very, very few.
He’s fine where he is.
Edit: says everyone in this thread
He’s fine where he is.
Edit: says everyone in this thread
Stupid idea. We already don't score enough.
Ideal situation would be Rashford and Martial sharing the RW, like they shared the LW last season.
Solves the RW issue and develops both players.
Solves the RW issue and develops both players.
He'll have to share the backup spot with Martial too, if we sign a backup striker and RW. Can't say I see Mourinho rotating Sanchez much, so unless Sanchez carries his poor form into next season, I don't see Rashford getting "plenty" of minutes when he won't even be the clear 2nd choice option.
We are not sending a Utd lad on loan who has played 35 matches last season in PL
do we disagree often?It wouldn't be ideal though as neither of them are good enough on the right hand side. We need top quality there.