Marcus Rashford and his critics | Now includes fashion and hobby critics

[MadDogg]

Thought he was a bit unfortunate against Leicester. There were multiple times where he made a good run and the pass was on to set him away, only for it to be a poor pass that was cut out or which forced Rashford to check his run and come backwards to get the ball.

Obviously wasn't a great game, but if those passes to him had been better he'd have been in dangerous positions quite a few times and could easily have got a goal/assist or two.

 

[PeteManic]

I don't know why he hasn't yet reinvented himself (already at 27 I might add!) as a Ronaldo-esque goal poacher no.9. Because he is awful on the left-wing.

 

[Irishman]

Thought he was a bit unfortunate against Leicester. There were multiple times where he made a good run and the pass was on to set him away, only for it to be a poor pass that was cut out or which forced Rashford to check his run and come backwards to get the ball.

Obviously wasn't a great game, but if those passes to him had been better he'd have been in dangerous positions quite a few times and could easily have got a goal/assist or two.

He was absolutely dire via Leicester. His application, enthusiasm, spirit and drive completely gone. No longer deserves to start games. In fact, no longer deserves to be in the squad because he doesn't contribute and doesn't appear to have any willingness to do so.

 

[Crostien]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

 

[Malons]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

Indeed, because being from a working class background is unusual for a footballer and the only reason people are pointing at the difference in quality between himself and Amad is because of racism.

It's also misandry because of his sex. He's targeted for being male. Something also quite unique in the men's game. And you're right, being young is also a factor. A mere 27, in a game where most players don't hit their peak until they're 56.

 

[cyril C]

Thought he was a bit unfortunate against Leicester. There were multiple times where he made a good run and the pass was on to set him away, only for it to be a poor pass that was cut out or which forced Rashford to check his run and come backwards to get the ball.

Obviously wasn't a great game, but if those passes to him had been better he'd have been in dangerous positions quite a few times and could easily have got a goal/assist or two.

Unfortunate, is a very bad excuse. We played well that day except Dalot was day dreaming at the back, as usual; while Rashford was whitewalker in front. It was probably his worst performance this season, if not his career. Every touch, every pass, every run, was ill-timed. Even a school boy can get better teamwork with his mates.

 

[Squeaky_Bum_Time]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

[Nevilles.Wear.Prada]

Indeed, because being from a working class background is unusual for a footballer and the only reason people are pointing at the difference in quality between himself and Amad is because of racism.

It's also misandry because of his sex. He's targeted for being male. Something also quite unique in the men's game. And you're right, being young is also a factor. A mere 27, in a game where most players don't hit their peak until they're 56.

 

[tenpoless]

Probably a bit out of topic but I love how the name 'Rashbonlahor' was seen as an insult but then Agbonlahor actually started appearing on TV and people watched and listened to him. Idiots.

 

[Judas]

I don't know why he hasn't yet reinvented himself (already at 27 I might add!) as a Ronaldo-esque goal poacher no.9. Because he is awful on the left-wing.

Because he has always been better out wide than as a number 9. If the new management can get him firing as a number 9 they're doing very good work.

 

[Ahmer Baig]

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

How did you come to this conclusion? What is your conclusion based on?

 

[Malons]

How did you come to this conclusion? What is your conclusion based on?

He disagrees, so that makes them fascist. I'm always taken by those in the crowd that groan when we waste another corner are all complicit in child labour exploitation

 

[Red in STL]

He disagrees, so that makes them fascist. I'm always taken by those in the crowd that groan when we waste another corner are all complicit in child labour exploitation

One thing for sure is that the CAF is a mostly left-leaning forum, the notion that a lot of the critics are on the politcial right is complete nonsense!

 

[GreatDane]

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

This is really interesting, would love if you could come with examples?

 

[Hammondo]

This is really interesting, would love if you could come with examples?

I would also like to see this. I've wanted rid of him for ages and I'm pretty damn left.

 

[Utterly De Ligt'd]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

He's just shite mate, whatever agenda you are trying to promote is just that, an agenda, because people can see clear as day that he just isn't good enough to play at this level and his attitude is even worse than his play.

 

[pablo__p]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

I haven't seen a forum so much left-leaning as Caf...

Dude, all we want is United players to perform on the pitch like United players should. Effort and right attitude is a bare minimum.

 

[RedFanaticTattooist]

The difference between a classy player and Rashford is, a classy player has rather consistent performance in (almost) all seasons. I never thought that Rash is a world class player or so, of course he isn't. But he should have been better, he had like 2 real good seasons and he is already 27. Disciplinary issues, lack of motivation, problems after problems and what's his reaction? He is acting like a spoilt brat. Awful, he should be sold ASAP, which would be very difficult as no one needs a lazy, mediocre winger especially for the money INEOS is hoping to sell him for. His Transfermarkt value is still quite high, but that has nothing to do with her performance, it rather shows his popularity on the internet, the number of followers and so on. His real value should be about 10 million euros, based on his performance. Or less than that.

 

[MancunianAngels]

It's a sad indictment of modern football/society that a player can't have a bad day at the office, he has to be an overpaid mercenary.

If a player isn't laughing and smiling, he's miserable and doesn't care. If a player is laughing and smiling, he's not focusing enough on his football.

If a player is on 350,000 a week and not doing anything with his money other than buying fancy cars and houses, he's the epitome of a self obsessed modern society. If he's campaigning for kids to have food, he's a PR merchant who should stick to football.

With Rashford, there's every he's is a good footballer who either has or had the potential to be world class but due to an appalling level of management and lack of structure has yet to reach that. Maybe it would be best to go our separate ways.

Maybe, the manager sees potential in him and believes he could be a key player in a squad for the next 3/4 years that will challenge again. Maybe he's gonna end up being turned into the world's greatest left wing back. Who knows

Stop with the hyperbole every time certain players don't play well.

Just look at Garnacho. A couple of performances where it didn't work out for him and there's people on here calling him shite. Labelling him as greedy, lazy etc.

 

[K Stand Knut]

It's a sad indictment of modern football/society that a player can't have a bad day at the office, he has to be an overpaid mercenary.

If a player isn't laughing and smiling, he's miserable and doesn't care. If a player is laughing and smiling, he's not focusing enough on his football.

If a player is on 350,000 a week and not doing anything with his money other than buying fancy cars and houses, he's the epitome of a self obsessed modern society. If he's campaigning for kids to have food, he's a PR merchant who should stick to football.

With Rashford, there's every he's is a good footballer who either has or had the potential to be world class but due to an appalling level of management and lack of structure has yet to reach that. Maybe it would be best to go our separate ways.

Maybe, the manager sees potential in him and believes he could be a key player in a squad for the next 3/4 years that will challenge again. Maybe he's gonna end up being turned into the world's greatest left wing back. Who knows

Stop with the hyperbole every time certain players don't play well.

Just look at Garnacho. A couple of performances where it didn't work out for him and there's people on here calling him shite. Labelling him as greedy, lazy etc.

Well, it was a well-oiled PR machine and he wasn’t doing any such campaigning.

It was a match made in heaven at the time and worked for all parties.

 

[FujiVice]

Well, it was a well-oiled PR machine and he wasn’t doing any such campaigning.

It was a match made in heaven at the time and worked for all parties.

Well oiled. A young man with influence to help kids when the government is trying to feck over the average person isnt "well oiled." That's a very harsh and mean spirited way to look at it.

 

[Trex]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

I'm a Nigerian living in Nigeria so I don't have any side in UK politics plus as black man who loves seeing people who look like myself excel in any work of life. Rashford hasn't been great for a while now and has never been consistent over multiple seasons.
The biggest issue is simply effort. Bruno for example plays crap sometimes but you can never fault his effort. Rashford attitude is atimes as bad as Sancho's.

 

[SalfordRed18]

I don't know why he hasn't yet reinvented himself (already at 27 I might add!) as a Ronaldo-esque goal poacher no.9. Because he is awful on the left-wing.

Because if it was that easy every tom, dick and harry would do it

 

[alexthelion]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

 

[Malons]

Because if it was that easy every tom, dick and harry would do it

To become like Ronaldo, sure. But adapting your game or expanding your repertoire on the field, if you excuse the expression, is something you'd generally expect to come with experience and maturity. Not sure anyone could point to any element of his game that's he's better at now than he was six years ago

 

[fanta cloud]

Rashford is not good enough. He needs to stop playing the victim card.

 

[SalfordRed18]

To become like Ronaldo, sure. But adapting your game or expanding your repertoire on the field, if you excuse the expression, is something you'd generally expect to come with experience and maturity. Not sure anyone could point to any element of his game that's he's better at now than he was six years ago

Well yeah but he said become Ronaldo-esque?

 

[Squeaky_Bum_Time]

I’m sure I’m not the first one thinking this, but can he be tried down the middle? As the striker in the 3-4-3.

Rasmus is just not cutting it, and Rashford is not the best finisher but finds himself in the right positions more often than Rasmus.

He’s got enough pace for the position, and his hold up play is nothing to write home about but neither is Hojlund’s.

Either way I think Rashford and Hojlund should share that position and Zirkzee is ill-suited for it. More likely to be somehow useful as one of the two behind the striker.

Hopefully this is a moot point and someone clicks with Hojlund and the new formation and tactics suit him, but Rashford could be an option there too.

 

[Pughnichi]

To become like Ronaldo, sure. But adapting your game or expanding your repertoire on the field, if you excuse the expression, is something you'd generally expect to come with experience and maturity. Not sure anyone could point to any element of his game that's he's better at now than he was when he was six

Fixed

 

[simonhch]

Rashford was a huge talent when he came through. Not least because in addition to his searing pace and fearlessness on the ball, he had a terrific work rate, and was constantly making runs which made him such a menace. At some point he became convinced that he was the new Ronaldo, and adopted the work rate and part of the mentality to match; but without the lethal eye for goal.

I’ve defended him over the years as I think a lot of previous criticism was either way too early in his career, or over the top. Just because it’s now pretty certain he’ll never be a top quality player, doesn’t make any of that correct in hindsight. Just a stopped clock scenario. That said, he’s 27 now, and the maturity in his game isn’t there like it should be. For me it’s about being realistic about his status in our squad. He should be a squad player, nothing more. His contract is way too big for his contribution, but that doesn’t need we still need to give him top billing. I’m fairly hopeful Amorim will pick on merit, not name. And the only way for Rashford back into the team, is if he starts tearing it up again. Something which he has only really done in 2 or 3 seasons as a pro. He’s had far more “off” years, than on.

It’s a shame because he promised more than he’s ultimately delivered. And the over rewarding of that promise has led to complacency.

 

[DRJosh]

Would Rashford struggle in finding a club if he was transfer listed? I suspect his wages alone will be a major stumbling block. I seriously don’t see him improving and think he desperately needs a new environment to thrive. He has the potential to be a top player but it needs to be realised elsewhere.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Would Rashford struggle in finding a club if he was transfer listed? I suspect his wages alone will be a major stumbling block. I seriously don’t see him improving and think he desperately needs a new environment to thrive. He has the potential to be a top player but it needs to be realised elsewhere.

You think he has the potential to be as good as Hazard, KDB, Aguero, Haaland etc?

People keep saying he has the potential. He’s 27! The guy doesn’t have the close control and general play to be a very good player let alone a top player. His whole thing was pace and a strong shot and hence his stats see surges during good spells. Rest of his game is average. I don’t know who these top players are who has such mediocre qualities.

 

[Sir Erik ten Hag]

I'd rather he concentrates on his own game and trying to build on the improved form he's shown this year. SAF's brief experiment with Scholes as captain showed that a team's most talented and most high profile players don't necessarily make the best captains.

I think a talented player does not need to be captain. But “wanting to act and become a captain” usually elevates a player’s performance. And Marcus Rashford needs to have that drive in mentality to get back to top level. Hell, all Manchester United players should have that kind of mentality.

 

[MadDogg]

Rashford was a huge talent when he came through. Not least because in addition to his searing pace and fearlessness on the ball, he had a terrific work rate, and was constantly making runs which made him such a menace. At some point he became convinced that he was the new Ronaldo, and adopted the work rate and part of the mentality to match; but without the lethal eye for goal.

I first noticed his workrate really dropping off in 19/20. However that was the season that his goal-scoring really took off and his work when we were in possession was at it's absolute best. The one time in his career that it looked like he might go on to be one of the best players in the world. So it was a fair compromise.

Since then he's continued having a poor workrate (if anything he's got worse), he's been very inconsistent with his goal-threat (two good seasons, two bad seasons and so far bad again this season), and even in those better seasons his all-round game hasn't been anywhere near as good as it was in 19/20.

 

[Ish]

Indeed, because being from a working class background is unusual for a footballer and the only reason people are pointing at the difference in quality between himself and Amad is because of racism.

It's also misandry because of his sex. He's targeted for being male. Something also quite unique in the men's game. And you're right, being young is also a factor. A mere 27, in a game where most players don't hit their peak until they're 56.

ffs

 

[K Stand Knut]

Well oiled. A young man with influence to help kids when the government is trying to feck over the average person isnt "well oiled." That's a very harsh and mean spirited way to look at it.

If only the narrative that was pumped through the media was actually true.

If only

 

[devilish]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

While I do agree that there's a huge element of xenophobia in the media which can be seen even with Rashford (ex vs Shaw), I don't really think he's really targeted. That's because the media people has their hands full targeting the 'Johnny Foreigners' such as Antony, Bruno and Garnacho. Antony in particular had been massacred. Sure he's not United's level but he does work hard on the pitch something that can't be said by everyone. You don't see the likes ofHenry Winter protecting Antony as he does with Rashy.

Most people target Rashford because he is supposed to be the star player from Manchester United (ie the biggest club in the world and the cradle of the England's national team) and he's a squad player level at best. That wouldn't really be an issue if he was on 120k a week but he's on 300k a week. Top earners will always have loads of pressure irrespective of the club they play for.

Then there's of course his PR team whose as useful as throwing gasoline at a burning house.

 

[Malons]

While I do agree that there's a huge element of xenophobia in the media which can be seen even with Rashford (ex vs Shaw), I don't really think he's really targeted. That's because the media people has their hands full targeting the 'Johnny Foreigners' such as Antony, Bruno and Garnacho. Antony in particular had been massacred. Sure he's not United's level but he does work hard on the pitch something that can't be said by everyone. You don't see the likes ofHenry Winter protecting Antony as he does with Rashy.

Most people target Rashford because he is supposed to be the star player from Manchester United (ie the biggest club in the world and the cradle of the England's national team) and he's a squad player level at best. That wouldn't really be an issue if he was on 120k a week but he's on 300k a week. Top earners will always have loads of pressure irrespective of the club they play for.

Then there's of course his PR team whose as useful as throwing gasoline at a burning house.

Whilst his PR doesn't work with fans, those who mainly view him as a celebrity/public figure, it's been incredibly successful. Those people don't really care about his workrate or form. The way he essentially became a household name for things that he did entirely separate from football, is a testament to that.

Part of me thinks that if he has developed a bit of a disillusionment with the day job, it might be due to not getting the same level of adulation inside football as he does outside.

 

[Mockney]

Some critics, not just those within MSM, probably are targeting him. This could be because he's a young, successful black lad from a working background who didn't show the correct fealty to 'Boris'.

I've noticed a whole host of 'sell Rashford' posts in the Amorim thread and it seems quite a few, not all, posters making those noises are on the political right.

Personally reckon he's been handled poorly. Over-indulged, certainly with respect to wages and coached badly.

There's talent and willpower there somewhere, so I reckon we should ignore the noise and see what Amorim can do.

Especially considering how he'll be nigh-on impossible to shift.

I’m on the political left and I think we should sell him because he’s primarily a pace and power player whose lost a lot of his pace and power partly due to being overplayed as a teenager and since he doesn’t have the football intelligence of a Giggs or a Rooney that would allow him to drop back a bit i think he’s actively on the decline and only going to be worth north of £50m for another season tops.

FYI

 

[Mourinhonista]

He just like Ronaldo can't play the 9. Both of them are worse there than Weghorst. I don't know what's the problem with Rashford. Maybe he's mentally checked out. Because of the contract he will stay here forever. Hopefully the new coach can get him back to his best but i won't held my breath for it.