Rashford starts the game with optimism, but if he loses even one dribble to a tackle (and he often does so because he jumps out of harm's way) then he has the oh no it's not my day attitude and gives up. Very much like what McClaren observed. I hope Amorim can succeed in giving him a different perspective and opportunities to find space and shine, but definitely not at the expense of the team or himself. If he doesn't adapt, it will continue to be an unfolding tragedy.
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I think he is responsible for the Israeli offensive in Gaza and the Russian offensive in Ukraine. Both would stop once he is sold.
Public enemy #1, this guy.
Public enemy #1, this guy.
First time seeing the second McLaren part. Rashford is not a champion and the club have billed him into a player and personality that he isn’t. He was never the player to carry this club to glory and I think some of that has been unfair to him.
He’s not a champion.
I think it’s too late to change him. He’s 27. He probably will have a good patch under Amorim like he did with Ten Hag but we know how it will end.
If that little story is true then christ thats pretty weak as piss mentally. What's happened to him?
To be honest, you only have to read this thread to know its true
There's a fragility there. Whether it be crumbling under criticism from fans, not being able to overcome adversity during a match or what we see in McClaren's comments. At some point for some fans, maybe before his 30th birthday, the penny will drop that he isn't a Manchester United player. Keane always uses the 'in the trenches' analogy when it came to looking around the dressing room and being assured that you could go into battle with people you trusted - and that this was a crucial factor in giving our players the confidence to go out there under pressure and perform and win matches and trophies and titles.
Some of us use 'Maybe he was thinking about a Tweet that said he was rubbish last month, that's why he was so bad today' and such like in his performance thread as a sarcastic jibe. Maybe that's closer to the truth that any of us realised.
So we give him one more chance. Maybe he goes on a run of games where he scores 12 goals in as many matches. Until when? Someone writes something he doesn't like then he'll revert back into his shell; is awful for two more years with everyone saying 'we should give him another chance, Amorin never played him in his preferred position, he scored 12 in 12 before, his quality isn't in question he just needs to have a chance under the new manager to see if we can get the best out of him'.
I see more people suggesting now he should be used as a number 9 and that the fact he isn't might explain why he struggles to get into games - after what feels like the longest time having the same people insist that playing him anywhere other than left wide-forward was tantamount to blasphemy. The machinery dedicated to always having excuses for him set up, is quite well oiled.
Some of us use 'Maybe he was thinking about a Tweet that said he was rubbish last month, that's why he was so bad today' and such like in his performance thread as a sarcastic jibe. Maybe that's closer to the truth that any of us realised.
So we give him one more chance. Maybe he goes on a run of games where he scores 12 goals in as many matches. Until when? Someone writes something he doesn't like then he'll revert back into his shell; is awful for two more years with everyone saying 'we should give him another chance, Amorin never played him in his preferred position, he scored 12 in 12 before, his quality isn't in question he just needs to have a chance under the new manager to see if we can get the best out of him'.
I see more people suggesting now he should be used as a number 9 and that the fact he isn't might explain why he struggles to get into games - after what feels like the longest time having the same people insist that playing him anywhere other than left wide-forward was tantamount to blasphemy. The machinery dedicated to always having excuses for him set up, is quite well oiled.
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The irony of his goal celebration
It isn't unfair because he's the one who has signed up for the crazy wages that he's on. He has accepted the huge responsibility and trust placed in him. In another world he could have been a brilliant squad player for us. A souped up Anthony Elanga. Though unfortunately, he is a product of being indulged and has been put on a pedestal that he doesn't deserve. He isn't a victim of that. He's a willing participant.
Why is this thread so active? Did he make another post or something?
I don't think anyone can play the "Maguire doesn't get criticised lately" card when a year ago the same people were giving him dogsh*t abuse just because he didn't want to take a pay cut to play for West Ham.
I don't think the truth is anywhere in between as I haven't seen anyone claim Rashford is playing well. The truth is we unfortunately seem to have a lot of stupid, spiteful fans. The main point in what you're saying is that Rashford isn't the only one they target.
The idea he got 4 managers sacked is laughable, but it's also irritating we have fans who think like this. Aside from the fact the manager is the only person responsible for what the manager does, both ETH and Ole would have been sacked a lot sooner without Rashford, Jose wouldn't have won a Europa League and LVG wouldn't have won an FA Cup. This is probably something to do with why none of them binned him off.
You’re hardly going to turn down a massive contract are you? ‘Sorry, I’m not good enough for that amount guys. I’ll take half’
The fault of that contract once again is on the exec team. Another in a long line of shit contracts being handed out to players clearly not worth it.
Yeah that would be the big hope - especially a “arm around the shoulder” charismatic leader….but as you say, make no two ways about it, I don’t see Amorim accepting the shrugging of the shoulders, strolling about version of Rashford. I think it’s do or die time for him as well.
Here’s hoping he can rediscover his magic though. It can only benefit us.
The world is a strange place these days, noodle. Like I said, the getting managers sacked bit is clear BS - and even if that was the case, then said manager probably wasn’t worth their salt (or they’re better off managing elsewhere, over a club who’d allow such player power to run rampant - all this while struggling to maintain Europa level status at that).
I’ve read and seen enough online to know that some people have wild ideas and thoughts, and it’s impossible to reel it in or reason with them. All this while others are more interested in winning an argument or being proven right (like tagging a players performance thread only when they’re doing well/poorly etc) then not much else matters - least opposite opinions to theirs.
By accepting it, he has hardly helped himself has he? It's a lot easier to criticise a player earning £350k a week for not doing the business than it is if he was earning a third or even half of that. By earning those criminal wages, you need to be putting in World Class performances. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
That's extremely concerning if true. Talking about pressure in a 5-a-side during training?
How could a professional footballer possibly feel any pressure in that situation?
These quotes read like a Football Manager chat when you try to congratulate a player who scored on international duty and he ends up mad at you for putting too much pressure
That has to be bullshit surely.
Remember the flirting with PSG? 'The phone hasnt stopped ringing', etc? If you pull these tactics for the best deal you can, you have to live up to it. Rooney got shit for it, and a far better player in every aspect
It's also not like he was on a pittance on his previous contract, was it £200k-250k? He's been massively overpaid practically the whole time he's put on the United shirt.
The guy is the physical representation of the abject failure of the powers that he at the club since SAF, there's not a universe where Rashford survives during our most dominant years, his mentality and character remind me of the players who used to play at Arsenal when Evra called them boys.
Refusing to celebrate when he actually manages to hit a barn door is a horrible way to act when the supporters in the stadium are going wild, the fights with the fans a few years ago too.
The guys a waste of space, and no matter how many people respond to this suggesting I'm either racist or far right will change this opinion.
Same for those who say players like Malacia shouldn't be sold, if you're not providing the good within three years of being at this club then you shouldn't be here.
This clip is depressing me. How much of a superstar does Marcus think he is to behave like this? The entourage, the whole look, the waiting limo and the “look at me”. You’d have to be a world leader in your sport to justify anything like this and yet this guy can’t make his national team and is not a guaranteed starter on a club side in the bottom half of the division. Ridiculous really, needs to be off loaded asap.
Were you around when George Best was playing for us?
The guys done absolutely nothing wrong in the clip. Might not be my cup of tea, but I think this post is completely unfair.
What a clown! Marcus Balotelli.
He might dress like a clown, but as far as I’m aware he doesn’t set off fire works in his house.
It's more the vibe that he gives. Absolute laughing stock. Completely oblivious to everything.
Whilst that's absolutely correct - if you're the highest paid player at Manchester United (or any of the traditional big clubs) you need to perform.
Sure his look is ostentatious, but it's ultimately him and his mate being ushered by security out of what looks like a side exit into a taxi van. I guess you see what you want to see.
Especially when all professional footballers dress the same and do the same things, whether they play for Getafe or Chelsea
Point is Nani had 1 bad, 2 good and 1 great game. Rashford has had 1 great run of form so far.
The points is that Best, the most talented European player ever imo up to date, fecked his career up by his off field antics.This George Best?
So what is Rashford's excuse for fecking up his career?
Even when he's out in Manchester he rolls like 20 deep with a stack of hangers-on and bodyguards.
While he was over there he got fitted for a new platinum and diamond Johnny Dang grill...so that'll be nice. Maybe he'll debut it against Ipswich.
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If it’s true that someone else thinks he’s being bullied it doesn’t say anything about his mentality really
But he probably is mentally weak, let’s be honest
Rashford in this video wears what can only be described as a clown outfit, yet acts like he doesn't want to be recognized by the media.
It's a blatant publicity stunt to show his social media followers how cool and trendy he is.
Meanwhile, he is an underperforming, overpaid star that can't even be arsed to work his socks off.
If you're comparing that to an alcoholic George Best that would work his socks off and still be the best player in the world even when half-drunk, it's a losing battle.
Best was a legendarily great footballer. Rashford is a media package first, footballer second.
If anyone thinks Rashford is an example of a mentally strong player, the delusion is off the charts.
That’s the reason he’ll never leave United. He’s never getting this kind of exposure and stardom if he plays for psg for example. You’d have to earn it elsewhere but here, being the poster boy for United is enough no matter how bad you play.
From the outside it looks Rashford quit football a couple of years ago, he just doesn't bring it on match days, the odd burst that's it.
He wants to be a celebrity first, showered in attention. He looks pathetic with all that jewellery, as for that white fluffy Christmas jacket Each to their own though, good luck to him.
I personally hope he leaves this club in January, pay him off, sell him, whatever.
He wants to be a celebrity first, showered in attention. He looks pathetic with all that jewellery, as for that white fluffy Christmas jacket Each to their own though, good luck to him.
I personally hope he leaves this club in January, pay him off, sell him, whatever.
19/20 Rashford before the back injury was absolutely exceptional. His link up play, his devastating speed, his finishing. I also thought he was on the way to being one of the best wide forwards in the game.
It’s a shame.
I can't say I really care about how Marcus Rashford leaves a basketball game.
He could have left on a horse and chariot while dressed as Gladiator for all I care
He could have left on a horse and chariot while dressed as Gladiator for all I care
Disgusting how unequal the world is at times. A massive contradiction between this and his fight against food poverty…
Rashford highs are higher then nani's but his lows are way worse and they last seasons. For the record I think it's time for rashy to go
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