Marcus Rashford and his critics | Now includes fashion and hobby critics

[led_scholes]

Instead of all the valid criticisms levied against Rashford, you chose a completely bullshit point. He has done well quite well against top clubs in Europe and domestically in his career. In Europe, he has scored against likes of Bayern Munich, Barcelona, and properly bullied PSG. His bigger problem has been able to do as well when he didn't have as much space.

If you don't understand the difference between scoring and dominating a team don't call something a bullshit point. Also if you don't understand how different is to do it in a QF vs doing it in a group match, it is not my fault. Rashford failed to perform vs Sevilla in knockout matches (3 occasions), and Villarreal. But tell me how amazing he is because he humiliated a defender once against PSG or how good he was against Leipsig in one game.

 

[Fugeeface]

Thought the guy was pretty grounded and level headed up until not that long ago. Seems like another victim to have the fame rise to his head.

Sometimes I think pay should be incremental with age for these kids bc throwing tons of if at folks who never had to learn to manage their money or mature psychology hardly ever seems a recipe for success - unless they have good people around them who arent vultures.

That was exactly my impression as well. Immature, yes, but I didn't think the fame got to him in a bad way.

Watching the clip of him leaving the Knicks game and then the tweet of that jeweler is depressing. It breaks the image. Obviously I'm the dumb one for having expectations in strangers, nonetheless this is a big disappointment. I wanted him sold because the story is told, now even moreso. It would be better for both parties.

This is so disappointing. Zero self-awarenesses.

 

[In Absentia]

The man is an utter KNUT. I don’t know how else to describe him.

 

[CG1010]

If you don't understand the difference between scoring and dominating a team don't call something a bullshit point. Also if you don't understand how different is to do it in a QF vs doing it in a group match, it is not my fault. Rashford failed to perform vs Sevilla in knockout matches (3 occasions), and Villarreal. But tell me how amazing he is because he humiliated a defender once against PSG or how good he was against Leipsig in one game.

You are only proving my point further that relatively speaking, Rashford performs better against "big" teams than smaller ones. Him failing against Sevilla would be an example of that, even as he did great against PSG (three times not once, and also in knockouts, duh!). I don't even know how a single player can dominate a team? But you can go back and see how Rashford was a threat consistently (against PSG for example).

I never said he is amazing (atleast now) but let's not make up arguments as you are doing.

 

[Malons]

Ferguson would have bought an avery of parrots just so he didn't run dry if feathers to spit out of he saw one of his players cavorting at a basketball game with a mouthful of diamonds.

No issues with him taking a break, others have said Casemiro was there too. But the rest? It speaks to an immaturity perhaps.

 

[CG1010]

Thought the guy was pretty grounded and level headed up until not that long ago. Seems like another victim to have the fame rise to his head.

Sometimes I think pay should be incremental with age for these kids bc throwing tons of if at folks who never had to learn to manage their money or mature psychology hardly ever seems a recipe for success - unless they have good people around them who arent vultures.

I feel something changed after his off-football success in the food campaign for children. Either he lost meaning in football, or let his fame get to his head or something? Also he was always relatively a one-trick-pony, relying on explosive pace and that could get affected by not being 100% fit physically or mentally.

 

[arthurka]

Should be sold for wearing whatever it is he is wearing in that clip.

Acts like Beckham off the pitch, plays like Bebe on it.

Bebe was a hard worker..
Go to the game in your Nike trainers, hoodie and some trousers. No one would know who the feck he was. But he craves attention and cries when he gets criticised. He should look a bit closer at that national squad selection and ask himself why he isn't there instead of some of really mediocre players who are there, the truth might be a bit hard for him to swallow.

 

[Red Royal]

There is a bit too much hate(or envy) for a youngish rich man spending his time off watching a game. His dress sense I don't get but it is his choice.
Of course I want him to rediscover that amazing form on the pitch. However it is not his fault he was thrust into the first team at aged 17 and given a ludricous huge long contract... would any of us turn that down?

 

[led_scholes]

You are only proving my point further that relatively speaking, Rashford performs better against "big" teams than smaller ones. Him failing against Sevilla would be an example of that, even as he did great against PSG (three times not once, and also in knockouts, duh!). I don't even know how a single player can dominate a team? But you can go back and see how Rashford was a threat consistently (against PSG for example).

I never said he is amazing (atleast now) but let's not make up arguments as you are doing.

Your only point is cherry picking and a game against PSG. We have played 4 times PSG and he was great in one of them. And that in the group stages. Wow. (OH wait he scored a penalty, so he was great in the round of 16 with your logic). If we go with this logic Weldbeck was WC because he had a good game and scored vs Real.

How did he perform against Bayern, Juve or any other big team? Unfortunately we dont have many examples since we rarely play now, big teams. Well that will happen if you have players like Rashford as your star and main man. Or has even ever performed with England? Oh wait, he rarely plays. I wonder why.

Nani for a period of almost a year, was outperforming everyone in the league and was one of the best players in Europe. Rashford can only dream of reaching that standards for more than 3 months.

 

[DRJosh]

What Rashford does in his own time or the celebrity pull he think he has is really of no concern to me. I want to him perform for his club. So much ink wasted on a whole lot of nothingness

 

[Malons]

It's a hell of a first impression to make on the new manager. He's come into manage a struggling side, question marks over the character of some of the players in changing room. He's just seen his highest paid and one of his most experienced players dressing like a clown and goofing off with a mouthful of diamonds. The lack of self awareness is a concern. This isn't a kid with an error of judgement. It's a senior player looking like a fool in public when a new manager is coming in and trying to make an assessment on the character of players at his disposal.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

So we went to a knicks game, who the feck cares? Casemiro was also at the game but I’m not seeing a ton of articles and discussion about him being there.

Maybe Casemiro just makes sure he keeps a lower profile.

 

[sizzling sausages]

It's a hell of a first impression to make on the new manager. He's come into manage a struggling side, question marks over the character of some of the players in changing room. He's just seen his highest paid and one of his most experienced players dressing like a clown and goofing off with a mouthful of diamonds. The lack of self awareness is a concern. This isn't a kid with an error of judgement. It's a senior player looking like a fool in public when a new manager is coming in and trying to make an assessment on the character of players at his disposal.

You are easily the highest poster in this thread, with nearly three times the posts of the next person. Take a break ffs, we get you don't like him.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

What Rashford does in his own time or the celebrity pull he think he has is really of no concern to me. I want to him perform for his club. So much ink wasted on a whole lot of nothingness

The worry is if one is impacting on the other. He did seem very grounded. Have some people come into his inner circle that are leading down a different path.

 

[17Larsson]

It's a hell of a first impression to make on the new manager. He's come into manage a struggling side, question marks over the character of some of the players in changing room. He's just seen his highest paid and one of his most experienced players dressing like a clown and goofing off with a mouthful of diamonds. The lack of self awareness is a concern. This isn't a kid with an error of judgement. It's a senior player looking like a fool in public when a new manager is coming in and trying to make an assessment on the character of players at his disposal.

Also he should be embarrassed not to be picked for England by another England manager, and with all the players that pulled out of the squad as well.
He doesn't care about football anymore, I'm convinced of it

 

[Crostien]

Makes way more effort on things outside of football than he does on the pitch.

Bad combination for your football career.

Not always.

Beckham is a brilliant counter-example of the argument. It's rather his critics focus on off-field activities whenever form dips. Same for Beckham when his form was out.

You are easily the highest poster in this thread, with nearly three times the posts of the next person. Take a break ffs, we get you don't like him.

Yes, it's also not too difficult to see why the likes of Malons have such a problem with Rashford.

He doesn't care about football anymore, I'm convinced of it

Considering some of the takes in this thread, I would not blame him.

 

[P-Nut]

Maybe Casemiro just makes sure he keeps a lower profile.

He just doesn't have the same profile is all. If Saka, Palmer, Kobbie were in the same situation the entourage around then would be the same. Unless we're just criticising him for his sense of style I don't know what the issue is.

It's not like it's an unauthorized leave he's literally there with other United players so they'll be due back on a set day and will train from there.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

He just doesn't have the same profile is all. If Saka, Palmer, Kobbie were in the same situation the entourage around then would be the same. Unless we're just criticising him for his sense of style I don't know what the issue is.

It's not like it's an unauthorized leave he's literally there with other United players so they'll be due back on a set day and will train from there.

If his form and effort on the pitch were good nobody would care, might have a laugh at his fashion sense, but that would be it. Unfortunately he is putting more effort into his image than his football at the moment.

 

[tenpoless]

The worry is if one is impacting on the other. He did seem very grounded. Have some people come into his inner circle that are leading down a different path.

Yeah i missed the young Rashford. He spoke so humbly and so mature for his age. After scoring against Arsenal in his debut season he said he just wanted to help the team and enjoy football, not a slightest hint of arrogance at all. With fame and money comes more "connections". And before Saka and Foden became stars, he was both the poster boy for England and United. Some people took advantage of it.

 

[clarkydaz]

Also he should be embarrassed not to be picked for England by another England manager, and with all the players that pulled out of the squad as well.
He doesn't care about football anymore, I'm convinced of it

Funny thing is in that Grills clip they show a clip of him scoring for England. Just staggering lack of self awareness every time

 

[pcaming]

Some of you are a miserable bunch. He's on break, and is still allowed to enjoy life.

it's seriously no wonder we don't have loyal players.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

The sad thing is he’s paying all these hangers on and security when he could comfortably wander around anywhere in America on his own.

 

[Ronaldo's Love Child]

Sure his look is ostentatious, but it's ultimately him and his mate being ushered by security out of what looks like a side exit into a taxi van. I guess you see what you want to see.

He had ringside seats at the game and one if his "team" gave a nudge to the arena control room to point the camera at him with his name captioned underneath.

Your "side exit.." comment suggests he's trying to keep a low profile. Everything else suggests he is not. Nope. It's not a crime but Rashford cannot read the room

 

[Remember the geese]

You are easily the highest poster in this thread, with nearly three times the posts of the next person. Take a break ffs, we get you don't like him.

The post you are quoting is absolutely spot on though.

 

[Judas]

The sad thing is he’s paying all these hangers on and security when he could comfortably wander around anywhere in America on his own.

Yeah that element does make me chuckle. I very much doubt he’d have trouble blending into the background in America if he wanted to, but he doesn’t, which I guess is his choice. Sounds like hell to me.

 

[OL29]

The lad is a joke.

Gangster on the socials, dormouse on the pitch.

Gangster? How?

 

[Judas]

Gangster? How?

“Gangstas” are always feeding kids.

 

[horsechoker]

The sad thing is he’s paying all these hangers on and security when he could comfortably wander around anywhere in America on his own.

People have guns in America

 

[P-Nut]

If his form and effort on the pitch were good nobody would care, might have a laugh at his fashion sense, but that would be it. Unfortunately he is putting more effort into his image than his football at the moment.

He's actually been a lot better this season, just hasn't got the rewards for it. Numerous times I've seen him tracking back to the edge of our box and winning the ball back. He's lost a yard as he's got older and it looks to be affecting his game, he's never been an intricate dribbling relying on pace to beat his man and now that's lacking he needs to adapt and change as a player. If he can do that we'll see, but there's no way it's a lack of effort. 90% of his social media posts are in the gym or training.

 

[Von Mistelroum]

Ugh, can he please go? Literally anywhere, for free if nobody wants to pay? I'm sick of seeing him and his attitude stinking Old Trafford out.

 

[90 + 5min]

This clip is depressing me. How much of a superstar does Marcus think he is to behave like this? The entourage, the whole look, the waiting limo and the “look at me”. You’d have to be a world leader in your sport to justify anything like this and yet this guy can’t make his national team and is not a guaranteed starter on a club side in the bottom half of the division. Ridiculous really, needs to be off loaded asap.

For me this is just sad to see. Just sad and also telling about ”younger” people. Everything normal is just thrown out the door in hunt for what? Does he have anyone to talk what it means to grow up.

I ask myself if he is any different to players like Pogba and Lingard.

 

[Jippy]

He had ringside seats at the game and one if his "team" gave a nudge to the arena control room to point the camera at him with his name captioned underneath.

Your "side exit.." comment suggests he's trying to keep a low profile. Everything else suggests he is not. Nope. It's not a crime but Rashford cannot read the room

I've only seen that one tweet of him being there on here and he's literally just filmed by a random walking across a room into a waiting taxi.

People here would still be spewing hate if he'd sat at the back of the venue and a worn less loud hoodie and no shades.

 

[AndyMUFC]

I look at it both ways. The guy can do what he wants in his free time, but I can see why he riles people up with his attitude and the way he dresses etc. when he's so poor on the pitch. He just seems like the sort of figure we need to be moving away from.

 

[afrocentricity]

Same shit different day in here init

 

[DRJosh]

The worry is if one is impacting on the other. He did seem very grounded. Have some people come into his inner circle that are leading down a different path.

I see your point. Although I think he has fallen out of love with football more generally. Would be impossible to know if his lifestyle is a contributor but it could be.

 

[Ali Dia]

Fairly sure the music playing in his car is Curtisy but I had to hold the phone up to my ear. If so go on Ireland!

He looks like Rodman or Denzel in American Gangster playing Frank Lucas. It’s totally cringe but he’s clearly got more money than he knows what to with. He has talent but doesn’t work hard enough and we make him the highest paid player probably in the league? We created this monster. It’s on us to either get something out of him or cut him off.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

What bothers me most is something I don’t think anyone has mentioned yet. If Casemiro was there as well, why aren’t they walking in and out together? If two team mates from any functional team ended up at the same event on a different continent surely they would want to hang out together? Him and Casemiro being at the same event, separately, speaks volumes about this divided dressing room that Mitten keeps bringing up.

Great to see Amorin has this front and centre in his priorities with that “one word, team” answer. Because we very obviously aren’t one right now.

 

[clarkydaz]

What bothers me most is something I don’t think anyone has mentioned yet. If Casemiro was there as well, why aren’t they walking in and out together? If two team mates from any functional team ended up at the same event on a different continent surely they would want to hang out together? Him and Casemiro being at the same event, separately, speaks volumes about this divided dressing room that Mitten keeps bringing up.

Great to see Amorin has this front and centre in his priorities with that “one word, team” answer. Because we very obviously aren’t one right now.

i read Casemiro was actually at a different game. He wasnt posing in shades with pointless security though

 

[Pogue Mahone]

i read Casemiro was actually at a different game. He wasnt posing in shades with pointless security though

Ah, ok. My issue goes away then.

 

[TrivelaDeBruno]

Not always.

Beckham is a brilliant counter-example of the argument. It's rather his critics focus on off-field activities whenever form dips. Same for Beckham when his form was out.



Yes, it's also not too difficult to see why the likes of Malons have such a problem with Rashford.




Considering some of the takes in this thread, I would not blame him.

If Rashford reacted the same as Beckham did when he was criticized, we wouldn’t have this thread in the first place.