Anybody surprised by this clearly hasn't been paying attention. I think it's unforgivable, personally.
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He should work harder. Even if it was Mbappe, I'd say he should work harder too. He let his head drop tonight too easily. Got too frustrated. He needs to cut that out.
That said, it might be time to actually play our best attacker in his best position constantly.
That said, it might be time to actually play our best attacker in his best position constantly.
Rashford has his shortcomings as a 9 but the biggest issue I see whenever he plays there is whoever is replacing him on the wing isn’t as good as he is when he’s out there.
Tonight both Garnacho & Antony were shocking, you put Rashford up top with 2 firing wingers & ged be serviceable in most games but tonight was the same as ever, he gets put up top as an emergency & the replacement on the left has a shocker.
I’d be far more critical if it were a case of him missing lots of chances but we don’t even get to that point most times when he’s up there.
Tonight both Garnacho & Antony were shocking, you put Rashford up top with 2 firing wingers & ged be serviceable in most games but tonight was the same as ever, he gets put up top as an emergency & the replacement on the left has a shocker.
I’d be far more critical if it were a case of him missing lots of chances but we don’t even get to that point most times when he’s up there.
Tonight highlighted why ETH was so desperate to get a proper no9 in. Rashford is a wide forward, its not in his game to hold up the ball, bring others into play and give the team a breather.
Hopefully hojlund will do all that and allow rashford to do what he does best, coming in off the left and attacking that half space.
Hopefully hojlund will do all that and allow rashford to do what he does best, coming in off the left and attacking that half space.
It's difficult to motivate players when coaches constantly don't get the best out of them
As I do you mate as I do you saying I lost all excuses after 1 bloody match! Talk about scum! Atleast I’m backing my player whilst your partying every time he doesn’t bloody score. Pure scum like the stuff under my sink.
Did you see his header that cause him the run on the RW before getting taken out?
The attack that got stopped by the opposition hands in the box that could have given a penalty?
Yeah - No.. because you just sit their complaining about shit and act like he did nothing every chance you get and sit their laughing at any of his fans like we are weird.
Scum.
Saying all excuses are finished after 1 game and not even playing in his strongest position where someone did even more shitIQ.
It's far from the first game he's turned in a lazy, selfish and disinterested performance so there's one completely worthless argument.
Second, if you think him not playing in his strongest position is an excuse for not putting in any effort, you might not have a keen understanding of professional sports in general. What prevented him from doing all the things a striker should be doing without the ball? Moving without the ball to create space for teammates? Pressing the center backs? Leading the counter press when the ball was lost in the final third to pressure Wolves into turning the ball back over to us? Come on, let's have another football lesson from the Caf Clown.
He can't play as a central striker, he just can't hold the ball up and can't seem to get through a CB pairing, or create space with guile.
Sorry but a professional footballer at that level making the money he makes can put a shift in regardless of where he's played. He knows the position well enough to know understand what he needs to do without the ball. Giving no effort because he "doesn't like" playing through the middle doesn't cut it at any level of professional football. Nothing to do with the manager
Seems to think putting in a shift defensively is beneath him. His attitude on the pitch is terrible, and when he's not in form (which he often isn't, unfortunately) he's a liability.
Should have done better with the header.
I remember one occasion in particular where Mount was pressing quite intensely and was then furious when Rashford undone all his hard work by refusing to show the same intent.
Absolutely useless today, infuriating to watch.
Shame, running out of excuses are we?
He was static my arse until everytime he moves to create space for an attack where Bruno was passing him to attack and opens up the options to both him and the team mates on the opposite flank.
Also, just so you noticed - pressing you mentioned twice on either side of this
Try find some more excuses because your repeating things just in different ways…
Maybe a bit knee-jerk, but honestly I don't think that Fellaini, Macheda, or Manucho would've done worse than Rashford did tonight.
Shocking performance, really. He might be best suited on the wing, but there are excuses to play as badly as he did tonight - at least he could've worked hard.
Shocking performance, really. He might be best suited on the wing, but there are excuses to play as badly as he did tonight - at least he could've worked hard.
Yes showing effort is the minimum requirement. But a player like Rashford should never be the striker in a 433
He doesn't make runs unless it's in behind on a high line, he doesn't put in any effort to draw defenders and it allows the defense to easily maintain their shape. There is an interdependency between the front three and if one isn't working for the team, it makes it very difficult for the other two to get space to operate. Both Garnacho and Antony were surrounded and easily cut off every time they had the ball.
Shame, running out of excuses are we?
He was static my arse until everytime he moves to create space for an attack where Bruno was passing him to attack and opens up the options to both him and the team mates on the opposite flank.
Also, just so you noticed - pressing you mentioned twice on either side of this
Try find some more excuses because your repeating things just in different ways…
What am I looking for excuses for? I'm not the one defending a player. I'm telling you what his shortcomings were and you're excusing them. This is basic debating.
I'll have to continue mentioning it because apparently you don't understand why it's important and you refuse to acknowledge the fact that he didn't do it. Also, he has to move to create space even when he's not getting the ball btw, but surely with your superior understanding of football you already knew this.
He really isn’t that great. Any player that can literally only play in one position in one system isn’t up to it.
I don’t think he’s needed too many excuses of late
Yes he does. P*** poor effort and selfish play should not be a recurring issue.
He has almost every gift a footballer can ask for and there’s no reason he can’t establish himself in the elite tier rather than popping in and out of it.
yeh cos Haaland would be tearing it up on the left wing…
and i remember all of those great games Andy Cole had for us at centre half.
what a daft comment.
we have a flawed, but largely great wide forward. We just need to play him there. It’s pretty simple really
Very poor performance.
There are times when Rashford's technical ability looks sublime and other occasions, such as today, when almost every touch isn't quite where he wants it to be, so everything becomes so much more difficult than it should be.
Lack of work-rate - I don't understand why the manager accepts it. It's a disgrace.
There are times when Rashford's technical ability looks sublime and other occasions, such as today, when almost every touch isn't quite where he wants it to be, so everything becomes so much more difficult than it should be.
Lack of work-rate - I don't understand why the manager accepts it. It's a disgrace.
He talked about wanting to be better at heading (Overlap w. Neville) because he's got a better leap than most people. But I saw him contest one 50/50 halfheartedly and he grabbed his back after a very mild contact. I worry his back is fecked. I saw him do this almost every time he had the tiniest contact last season. I've willed him to become a #9 for us but I guess the physicality required is just not there. I do hope Hojlund does not have anywhere close to Rashford's back issue.
He did win a 50/50 in the second half then proceed to do his usual thing of running past the ball.
The successful normalisation of the argument "of course he wasn't willing to put in the effort, he was played slightly out of position" when it comes to Rashford is quite impressive.
Left side forward asked to play through the middle and some carry on as if he was asked to play in goal and do year 11 algebra home work at the same time.
Left side forward asked to play through the middle and some carry on as if he was asked to play in goal and do year 11 algebra home work at the same time.
Rashford’s not a presser that’s going to be pressing the CB’s - it’s part of the reason many don’t think he is a central player alongside his abilities to play with his back to goal. All he does centrally is make runs in behind & occasionally reach a header.
On the other hand - Rashford’s our most deadliest player & until Hojlund who isn’t even on the bench - Rashford’s our only regular goal scorer.
When he is playing centrally - if he is going to be moving all around the place off the ball (on the ball you admitted was not an issue) - then we lose any ability to score a goal & leave the rest to Garanacho & Antony who have to to accommodate the spaces Rashford’s left.
We have to play him in on a run or at the most maximum - play a cross in to him centrally to try header it in because other than those two abilities - he isn’t a target man who can play with his back to goal, brings others to play or be poacher that can accommodate receiving the ball from others or to scuff in the ball to net.
Even when he plays on the left - he doesn’t track back to help Shaw.
This isn’t just purely because he might be lazy which well might be the case - but if Rashford’s ever dropping down to help Shaw then who becomes our main man to score a goal when Rashford’s out of position deep in our half?
He definitely can improve pressing because he doesn’t press well enough for a central striker or maybe to some fans as a player of United - but part of this is again that he doesn’t want to press because he loses his main ability as a central forward -
which is simply either
a) to make a run in behind - not going to help from pressing the opposition deeper and deeper towards their goal
b) to take his players on directly from dribbling right at them with the ball at his feet
He needs to improve his pressing & defensive ability - but at the same time we complaining about that seems like the wrong importance when our attackers apart from Rashford’s attacking history here has been shit.
If Hojlund comes in and presses is one important factor - but most importantly we need him to hold the Centre backs and score goals. Then things like Rashford’s defensive attributes effecting the team can be bought as the main problem because well - he stops becoming our one and only central attacker that can only really either
a) dribble and take his defenders on by lying deeper off the defenders and receiving the ball to feet
Or
B) play as the player who plays in line of the defenders to time his runs in behind
The saga of being furious at anyone daring to notice Rashford hasn't played well, sees another glorious chapter added.
The irony.Yes - have the central striker track back deep as LB
Some people don’t know how football works.
Ten Hag has us playing transitional football - you can’t have your striker tracking back to do a defenders job
Indeed. There's any number of reasons why a player might play outside of his preferred position. Injury, suspension tactics, sending off etc.
Another irony is so desperate are his apologists to deflect any criticism they actually paint him as someone lacking versatility so severely to be rendered useless unless played in one specific position.
Forwards drop deep, defenders sometimes fill in the middle. Full backs sometimes fill in at centre back, right sided players have to do a job on the left... every match every week at every club at some point of another for various reasons....all that is normal. It's only in the world of the Rashford performance thread where playing slightly askew of your preferred position is talked about as some insurmountable, unreasonable ask.
I think our keeper might genuinely have more positional versatility now.
Good point.
If he's gonna jog around upfront I'd rather play Martial. At least a jogging Martial can win the odd header and hold the ball up.
His dribbling has regressed. His heading is simply bad. He needs to play wide and accept that he's a transition player and that's it. No shame in that as he's one of the best around at it.
His dribbling has regressed. His heading is simply bad. He needs to play wide and accept that he's a transition player and that's it. No shame in that as he's one of the best around at it.
Awful
His effort levels are abysmal however, we also struggled to get him involved in the game. We focused our attacks down the left hand side and with Garnacho giving a 0/10 performance we struggled to get the ball forward and create opportunities. Rashford only started to get on the ball when he moved into the left channel which is where we focused our attacks. Had we had a functioning left wing we may have seen a different game than the one we saw. That doesn't excuse his lack of effort however. The amount of times he fuddled about instead of closing down their centrebacks or goalkeeper was shocking.
Harsh to say he's regressed. He just does what he did six years ago but is slightly better at it. Like a child who badly plays Three Blind Mice on the recorder at a school recital and some years on is capable of playing a much better version on an electronic guitar. Exhilarating when he gets it right, but still nagging questions as to why he can only still play Three Blind Mice.
Struggling to identify a single attribute he has now that he didn't have on his debut for us. That's why so often he's either 9/10 or 3/10. He has nothing in his game to enable him to adapt. He either gets to play his tune or he's flummoxed.
He’s a player that only picks his head up when others do. He isn’t one to bring the best out the rest.
He regularly struggles with the basics of football. That alone is reason enough he won't ever be an elite player.
When he has a purple patch just about every shot goes in but even then the other parts of his game is still lacking..
Rashford played out of position last night. Some of you are reading too much about this.
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