[Beachryan]

It's not hard to understand imo. We can all see it in our workplaces too. Some of the smartest, most talented people in any field don't simultaneously have the drive, or don't maintain it. Personally, in my little world, I probably have the capability to move into the top-level of management. But I'd rather see my family, not have to travel, enjoy life etc. I don't have that hunger, that single-minded determinism you need to reach and stay at the top.

I think it's entirely normal to imagine that's true for footballers too. If not easier, as they actually have to endure physical pain everyday.

With the kind of contracts that exist in football, it then comes down to management to motivate the workers, as they can't just walk away. I actually don't hate ETH the way most do, but will be the first to say he's not the right type of manager to work with someone like Rashford. You'd hope for someone like Fletcher or maybe even get SAF down for a quick meeting.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

I think it's best now for everyone for him to move on in the summer.

He was heavily booed off at Wembley, I think fans patience with him has ran out.

Hope he has a good end of the season to salvage some pride and maybe win the cup then go.

 

[Rozay]

I can’t see how he survives this season. His performance levels have reached unimaginable lows, but more than that, he appears to have zero application in trying to rectify it. It’s a shame, as I am almost certain that we will not be able to replace the best version of Rashford on the market this summer, however, that version seems so far away right now anyway.

 

[Stadjer]

I can’t see how he survives this season. His performance levels have reached unimaginable lows, but more than that, he appears to have zero application in trying to rectify it. It’s a shame, as I am almost certain that we will not be able to replace the best version of Rashford on the market this summer, however, that version seems so far away right now anyway.

I cant see how we would be able to sell him. By being unsellable he will survive the season.

 

[RedDevil@84]

I can’t see how he survives this season

Same as many other players before him. Be on high salaries and be unsellable unless for a cheap throw away price.

 

[HBFSTR00]

https://x.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1782693904325738749

Anyone dutch can actually confirm he actually said this? He followed up with a Sneijder comment about Antony and makes me think he's just shithousing.

Do we know if this quote is real? seems harsh for a distant pundit

I can confirm the quotes are real, I watched it yesterday.

Not sure why it is harsh?

 

[Lash]

I can confirm the quotes are real, I watched it yesterday.

Not sure why it is harsh?

Thanks, for the record I don't think it's harsh. I think the Sneijder one was a bit weird, saying he hopes we loose the final 5-0. Van Basten is usually way stronger in his criticism of players.

 

[clarkydaz]

I can confirm the quotes are real, I watched it yesterday.

Not sure why it is harsh?

Maybe it's the dutch angle, you don't get many brit pundits going in that. There's only really Keane comparable to lines that that

 

[HBFSTR00]

Thanks, for the record I don't think it's harsh. I think the Sneijder one was a bit weird, saying he hopes we loose the final 5-0. Van Basten is usually way stronger in his criticism of players.

I haven't read or heard the Sneijder one but I know the tv program he is in and it's more of a "banter" football program. So, I don't take him very serious.
The one that van Basten is in, is purely about "serious" football.

Maybe it's the dutch angle, you don't get many brit pundits going in that. There's only really Keane comparable to lines that that

I don't understand why Rashford is not really being criticized by British pundits, it's like he can't do anything wrong, for some reason.

 

[The Corinthian]

I can’t see how he survives this season. His performance levels have reached unimaginable lows, but more than that, he appears to have zero application in trying to rectify it. It’s a shame, as I am almost certain that we will not be able to replace the best version of Rashford on the market this summer, however, that version seems so far away right now anyway.

The same way he's done previously. He doesn't need to outlast the fans, just the manager.

 

[Rozay]

I cant see how we would be able to sell him. By being unsellable he will survive the season.

Same as many other players before him. Be on high salaries and be unsellable unless for a cheap throw away price.

I think you guys will be surprised at how many suitors Rashford would have on the market. He’s not close to being unsellable IMO. My bigger concern would be that the club would be concerned with the optics of losing its marquee player while not doing well. For me, that’s what got Rooney his last 5 year deal under Moyes. He was finished, but was a brand name and we looked in ‘crisis’. Rooney leaving would have ‘confirmed’ that. Rashford leaving for another big club would be spun in the media as the most recognisable name leaving a sinking ship.

 

[van Nistelrooy]

The only realistic way for us to get out of the nightmare Rashford contract is to offer him out on loan this summer.

It would obviously have to be to a club abroad, for which I think there would be a number of potential suitors. PSG are not shy of bringing players in on loan and I think they could be tempted to bring Rashford in as one of the players they recruit to audition to replace the void left by Mbappe.

A loan without any mandatory future fee will surely generate future interest. We just have to be sensible enough to allow him to leave this summer and not allow him to return the following season if he kicks on.

 

[clarkydaz]

I think you guys will be surprised at how many suitors Rashford would have on the market. He’s not close to being unsellable IMO. My bigger concern would be that the club would be concerned with the optics of losing its marquee player while not doing well. For me, that’s what got Rooney his last 5 year deal under Moyes. He was finished, but was a brand name and we looked in ‘crisis’. Rooney leaving would have ‘confirmed’ that. Rashford leaving for another big club would be spun in the media as the most recognisable name leaving a sinking ship.

Name some clubs who would happily pay a stupid fee and match his even more stupid wages. PSG doesnt count, as they are the only ones people assume would buy him. Some fans cling to the notion of some world class talent. He doesnt even start for England

 

[freddie the red]

Gone way past the point where I just feel resentful each time he takes to the pitch.

He's been so poor at so much for so long that even the odd goal here and there hardly even registers fot me.

I know it's not my money but I'd just let any club have him for nothing just to get him gone and free up his wages for somebody else.

Taken the absolute p$!s for so long now that I don't see there's any coming back for him.

 

[Urescoredatanfield]

I haven't read or heard the Sneijder one but I know the tv program he is in and it's more of a "banter" football program. So, I don't take him very serious.
The one that van Basten is in, is purely about "serious" football.



I don't understand why Rashford is not really being criticized by British pundits, it's like he can't do anything wrong, for some reason.

I've heard Roy Keane and Jamie Redknapp have a go at his "performances", but it would be almost unheard of if a British pundit gave him both barrels as van Basten did...and what a player he was, so I assume he would know something about forward play, and even more about a LACK of forward play. Rashford has been almost comatose in every match this season, great goal against City, but that's it. Various pundits have suggested he needs a "fresh challenge", perhaps the rumoured PSG will suit as they play approx. two difficult games a season, so he can cruise through the French season. For a local lad, a United fan, been at the club since childhood, has numerous caps for his country, he has not improved one jot since he broke through, he should generate a small fee and go and meet his fresh challenge.

 

[Chairman Steve]

I’m interested to see if he’s starting tonight, because if he is, I’m calling it that he did a ‘Pogba in his last United game’ last Sunday and bitched out.

 

[RedDevil@84]

I think you guys will be surprised at how many suitors Rashford would have on the market

Ok. Do you think we would get 85M with no salary compensation from our side?

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

Name some clubs who would happily pay a stupid fee and match his even more stupid wages. PSG doesnt count, as they are the only ones people assume would buy him. Some fans cling to the notion of some world class talent. He doesnt even start for England

Think Arsenal and Chelsea would be all over him

 

[SuperiorXI]

I’m interested to see if he’s starting tonight, because if he is, I’m calling it that he did a ‘Pogba in his last United game’ last Sunday and bitched out.

I don't think he was ever going to start tonight even if he was fit after what happened.

 

[Rozay]

Name some clubs who would happily pay a stupid fee and match his even more stupid wages. PSG doesnt count, as they are the only ones people assume would buy him. Some fans cling to the notion of some world class talent. He doesnt even start for England

Well I can’t exactly create fake transfer rumours now. But I do think every top PL side would take him. Outside of England, seeing as you have seemingly asked to exclude one of about 3 teams who could afford him - then I can’t think of another. Bayern perhaps.

And do I really need to list all the England squad players who will be in demand for huge money this summer? There are uncapped England players who would fetch more than 50m.

Ok. Do you think we would get 85M with no salary compensation from our side?

Yes.

 

[Hammondo]

Well I can’t exactly create fake transfer rumours now. But I do think every top PL side would take him. Outside of England, seeing as you have seemingly asked to exclude one of about 3 teams who could afford him - then I can’t think of another. Bayern perhaps.

And do I really need to list all the England squad players who will be in demand for huge money this summer? There are uncapped England players who would fetch more than 50m.



Yes.

From who?

 

[Rozay]

From who?

From the team that buys him

 

[Ali Dia]

He’s been depressed ever since he crashed his Rolls Royce.

 

[Hammondo]

From the team that buys him

Who would buy him at that price for those wages?

 

[Borussia Teeth]

Well I can’t exactly create fake transfer rumours now. But I do think every top PL side would take him. Outside of England, seeing as you have seemingly asked to exclude one of about 3 teams who could afford him - then I can’t think of another. Bayern perhaps.

And do I really need to list all the England squad players who will be in demand for huge money this summer? There are uncapped England players who would fetch more than 50m.

Which of these uncapped 50m England players are on 300-350k per week?

No one is buying Rashford because we pay him too much money. Same can be said about a lot of our players.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

He's got PSG written all over him. Get it done...

 

[Rozay]

Who would buy him at that price for those wages?

Am I supposed to make up a transfer rumour or something? A number of the teams that can afford him would want him.

 

[Rozay]

Which of these uncapped 50m England players are on 300-350k per week?

No one is buying Rashford because we pay him too much money. Same can be said about a lot of our players.

Any team that buys him for big money will obviously think that he’s worth more than peanuts in salary. Otherwise the fee is just as relevant. He’s very highly regarded outside the caf, and big clubs and players have always spoken of his ability,, because he’s demonstrated it on the biggest stages time and time again. He’s not played well this season, however, he hasn’t exactly broken his leg and isn’t 33 - so teams would buy him expecting to get what he has shown many times. Unless they think he’s simply permanently forgotten how to play football, despite no health issues, at 26.

 

[Hammondo]

Am I supposed to make up a transfer rumour or something? A number of the teams that can afford him would want him.

There are probably none, with the outside possibility of PSG. We are stuck with him until his contract runs out.

 

[spwd]

I’m interested to see if he’s starting tonight, because if he is, I’m calling it that he did a ‘Pogba in his last United game’ last Sunday and bitched out.

Oh he definitely did that. I don't believe he's injured now either.

 

[croadyman]

He hasn’t really had much injury issues, has he, apart from the strained back episode. Remember last season, he even crushed a couple in from headers, using physical strengt h and bravery! None of his issues this year look like injury related, as opposed to Casemiro and Varane’s.

My impression is he has never liked pain, has always shied away from duels, has never seemed naturally keen on winning a ball, and has never been good without a steady girlfriend(?). Many has praised him previously for a great training and self improvement mentality, maybe he is just one of those who are not able to mentally facilitate and focus hunger and desire into different tasks very easily?

Either way, it’s not easy to see him strike back from this, it isn’t.

Feels like bar a couple of exceptions he has been ducking out of duels with defenders since picking up that back injury in 2020

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

There are probably none, with the outside possibility of PSG. We are stuck with him until his contract runs out.

I can see Barca buying him, or Bayern if they let one of Coman/Gnabry go, the thing is there isn’t a shortage of talented left sided forwards on the market so if they go for him with his wages very unlikely we can command a 70m+ fee, after the season he has just had.

 

[Hammondo]

I can see Barca buying him, or Bayern if they let one of Coman/Gnabry go, the thing is there isn’t a shortage of talented left sided forwards on the market so if they go for him with his wages very unlikely we can command a 70m+ fee, after the season he has just had.

Barca cannot afford that, he really doesn't suit the type of player they go for. Bayern would need to be very desperate to go for Rashford, they usually like a different profile of player.

 

[tentan]

Who would buy him at that price for those wages?

Who would buy him anyway? Average player at best

 

[stepic]

nobody will want him, we’re stuck with him 100%.

 

[WitchWithoutACat]

Nevermind who the new recruitment team bring in, it's if they can sell this player who clearly has fallen out of love with the club for a reasonable fee that'll be the big test.

It's going to be a tough one as if he stays because nobody wants him and continues to stink up the place, the media will be constantly on our back about how unfairly we're treating the poor man.

If he goes and we don't subsistise his wages AND we get a reasonable fee, that'll be a true selling masterclass.

I so want him to turn it around and produce the kind of form he had last season, if only every few games. You know, enough to show that he still has desire to be a part of the club and still want to win.

I think Sancho being shipped out for being a baby and Greenwood for what happened there, it shocked Rashford. Then when he got told off, fined and dropped for his partying incident on top of this, I do wonder if he thought of himself as untouchable and since he realised he isn't under ETH, he's just down tools, like a lot of the players have done under previous managers they didn't like.

All speculation of course.

It'll be interesting to see where he'll be playing in three years anyway.

 

[Grande]

Feels like bar a couple of exceptions he has been ducking out of duels with defenders since picking up that back injury in 2020

Tbh I think he did it before as well, but it was accepted or filed under youngster and not that kond of player

 

[JeffFromHK]

His season rating on this forum is 4.3 - the lowest amongst all senior squad members. He offers nothing apart from occasional goals. Any fan who think he is not a problem is delusional

 

[croadyman]

nobody will want him, we’re stuck with him 100%.

Yeah that's my fear unless someone from INEOS says we need to stop asking for silly money

 

[Rojofiam]

His season rating on this forum is 4.3 - the lowest amongst all senior squad members. He offers nothing apart from occasional goals. Any fan who think he is not a problem is delusional

Because "season rating on this forum" matters a lot. It's done by experts, after all