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He isnt actually awful at them.. he only is awful when he does his wannabe Ronaldo knuckball freekick. He had a decent free kick last night and a good one against Leicester. When he plays as Marcus Rashford he is a decent player and good enough to play for Manchester United but when he goes into his Marcus 'CR7' Rashford mode he is really frustrating.

Rashford needs to make runs without the ball and shoot with a normal shooting technique when he is in a good position. He shouldnt try to take on multiple opponents and/or shoot from really far away because he isnt good enough to do that.
Decent, he didnt hit the target once.
 
Decent, he didnt hit the target once.

A decent one gets close to the target for me... a good one is into the net or is saved. You cant expect a free kicker taker to always hit the target. Even Messi doesnt get them all on target and he is one of the best at taking free kicks.

I dont think Rashford is a specialist at free kicks anyway... but when he doesnt do the knuckleball i dont think there is a better free kick taker in the squad.
 
A decent one gets close to the target for me... a good one is into the net or is saved. You cant expect a free kicker taker to always hit the target. Even Messi doesnt get them all on target and he is one of the best at taking free kicks.
Fred hit the target on his
 
The bit in bold happened literally once. He also didn’t run into defenders very often. His all round play last night was decent. One of his better games, despite the missed chances.

I’m mainly worried with how dependent we are on him. If he can’t get a night off in games like last night, when can he?

Gladly we aren't. The moment Martial is back the project Rashford as a number nine will finally come to an end again. On the left we will then have Rashford and James to fight their place in our starting XI out.

I agree though that we have way too few options up front. Not getting in an experienced striker that would be happy to play a bit part role like Mandzukic was a brutal mistake by Ole.

As to Rashford's performance yesterday: woeful against an awful side. Again. The last time he was good was against Chelsea. That's not good enough.
 
Gladly we aren't. The moment Martial is back the project Rashford as a number nine will finally come to an end again. On the left we will then have Rashford and James to fight their place in our starting XI out.

I agree though that we have way too few options up front. Not getting in an experienced striker that would be happy to play a bit part role like Mandzukic was a brutal mistake by Ole.
James has to start on the left for me . Been decent there, Rashy will have to play on the right. Guy is in danger of losing his England spot as well Sterling Kane Sancho.
 
Just an unreliable player. I fear this unreliability will always be a feature to his game.

I think that is very well put. He can and does have moment of magic to be fair to him, but thats often drowned out with periods of real randomness. I know you should expect consistency to kick in early to mid 20's but Im not sure he has the composure to ever really make the cut.

Hope I am wrong.
 
The club have blown too much smoke up Rashfords' arse and it is now showing on pitch.

Absolutely dreadful performance, and he's been putting those for a while.


This.

Rashford has never scored 20 goals a season or close, yet he's walking around with a fecking gold chain with 'Rashy' on it and earning 200k a week.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - this chancer does not "love the club" and he's not "United through and through".

This lad took advantage of his supposed 'beloved' club's terrible standing and situation to blackmail them into giving him superstar wages to prevent him 'joining Barcelona' - there were no concrete sources to those rumours. If it was anyone but Rashford, the majority of fans would call those rumours what they clearly were - Rashy and his agent making shite up to get a huge contract. If you replaced Rashy with say, Lukaku, in that situation, everyone would have that opinion. Fans are blinkered because he's a 'local lad' and they can't face the truth.

He's an opportunist who has landed the jackpot.
 
He has to absolutely improve on his finishing, no defending him on that. But some of the posts here are massively hyperbolic.
 
he was very poor in the first half but it seems in the second half he was told to step up and it seemed he stepped up, got the ball and was direct. Unfortunately, he is not a natrual finisher.
 
The bit in bold happened literally once. He also didn’t run into defenders very often. His all round play last night was decent. One of his better games, despite the missed chances.

I’m mainly worried with how dependent we are on him. If he can’t get a night off in games like last night, when can he?

Totally disagree with that. I thought he was poor first half and then incredibly quiet 2nd half.

Maybe if we qualify from the group early he can be rested.
 
This.

Rashford has never scored 20 goals a season or close, yet he's walking around with a fecking gold chain with 'Rashy' on it and earning 200k a week.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - this chancer does not "love the club" and he's not "United through and through".

This lad took advantage of his supposed 'beloved' club's terrible standing and situation to blackmail them into giving him superstar wages to prevent him 'joining Barcelona' - there were no concrete sources to those rumours. If it was anyone but Rashford, the majority of fans would call those rumours what they clearly were - Rashy and his agent making shite up to get a huge contract. If you replaced Rashy with say, Lukaku, in that situation, everyone would have that opinion. Fans are blinkered because he's a 'local lad' and they can't face the truth.

He's an opportunist who has landed the jackpot.
Pretty much every single player at this level has an agent working for them, trying to get their clients best possible contract. His goldchain and poor form is no evidence he doesn’t love the club either. He might never become more than a erratic, frustrating player in the mould of Welbeck, but this anger is ott.
 
This.

Rashford has never scored 20 goals a season or close, yet he's walking around with a fecking gold chain with 'Rashy' on it and earning 200k a week.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - this chancer does not "love the club" and he's not "United through and through".

This lad took advantage of his supposed 'beloved' club's terrible standing and situation to blackmail them into giving him superstar wages to prevent him 'joining Barcelona' - there were no concrete sources to those rumours. If it was anyone but Rashford, the majority of fans would call those rumours what they clearly were - Rashy and his agent making shite up to get a huge contract. If you replaced Rashy with say, Lukaku, in that situation, everyone would have that opinion. Fans are blinkered because he's a 'local lad' and they can't face the truth.

He's an opportunist who has landed the jackpot.

A bit harsh on Rahsford, in my opinion. The fact that he loves United doesn't mean that he shouldn't be looking to get the best financial deal for himself. These two things are not exclusive. He and Martial have found themselves in a rather fortuitous situation in which their respective contracts reflect more the club's hopes for them than their actual skills & endproduct on the pitch. Something that is a direct result of our inability to overcome the tumultuous last six seasons. After three failed managers and loads of wasted money on duds, we were left with no players who can serve as points of reference for us on the pitch. The only constants on this side since LvG are Rashford, Martial plus Mata and De Gea. The club decided to take its chances with these two in this new attempt at rebuilding a new side. Whether this is a good or a bad decision, only time will tell. But it was certainly a conscious one on the club's behalf and any Barcelona rumours have nothing to do with it. And it's not blackmailing either.

For better or worse, i think it's a good thing that we'll get to see Rashford and Martial leading the attack for us throughout the whole season. We'll get a much better idea about how capable and ready they are mentally, physically and in terms of skills to carry the burden of creating/scoring goals for us. And we'll see where their current abilities can help us get us a team. But we'll have to wait until the end of the season. You'll argue that it may all have gone south for us by then. Still, it's better to have a good sample of games from these two just to know where we stand and where they stand in the process of this rebuilding. Especially Martial, he's going to be 24 in two months. Otherwise, we'll risk them turning into what in my corner of the world call "perennial talents". Not enough game time while stardust around them persists and the excuses for them keep coming. If this happens, then Rashford will be stealing a living at United.
 
Saw this comment on the BBC. Puts things in perspective.

Rashford's goals in 1st 4 seasons
7
12
15
17
Total 51
Rooney's 1st 4 season's
8
9
17
19
Total 53
Shearer's 1st 4 season's
3
0
5
14
Total 22
Henry's 1st 4 season's
3
3
10
11
Total 27
Ronaldo's 1st 4 season's
5
6
9
12
Total 32
He is on course to be a top striker.
 
Saw this comment on the BBC. Puts things in perspective.

Rashford's goals in 1st 4 seasons
7
12
15
17
Total 51
Rooney's 1st 4 season's
8
9
17
19
Total 53
Shearer's 1st 4 season's
3
0
5
14
Total 22
Henry's 1st 4 season's
3
3
10
11
Total 27
Ronaldo's 1st 4 season's
5
6
9
12
Total 32
He is on course to be a top striker.

Number of goals isn't the issue
 
The problem with Rashford is that he's actually terrible at getting on the end of anything. High crosses, low crosses, balls played through etc; He's effective playing from wide and cutting in and he's a very talented player and already with a lot of experience for his age, but he's just not the player the club or the player seem to want to be, which is the central striker.

The issue there is that I'd like to see Dan James keep on in that position, as he has a lot of ability and a great future, so can Rashford be tried out on the right or will they just try to lump James out there?
 
The problem with Rashford is that he's actually terrible at getting on the end of anything. High crosses, low crosses, balls played through etc; He's effective playing from wide and cutting in and he's a very talented player and already with a lot of experience for his age, but he's just not the player the club or the player seem to want to be, which is the central striker.

The issue there is that I'd like to see Dan James keep on in that position, as he has a lot of ability and a great future, so can Rashford be tried out on the right or will they just try to lump James out there?

He's not terrible at getting at the end of balls played through.. That game is called two truths and a lie.
 
Running on to them he's fine but he's not got that ability to compose himself and shoot and score within one or two touches. At least not consistently.

Yeah, finishing is a problem with him. I agree with that. But getting to those balls, he's probably one of the best in the league. All the chances he missed yesterday, the likes of Lukaku would not even get to the ball. Sometimes I feel that his game will actually improve if he intentionally tries to slow his game down a little.
 
Yeah, finishing is a problem with him. I agree with that. But getting to those balls, he's probably one of the best in the league. All the chances he missed yesterday, the likes of Lukaku would not even get to the ball. Sometimes I feel that his game will actually improve if he intentionally tries to slow his game down a little.
Yeah, he's got that ability to get into those spaces and positions but a lack of composure perhaps or confidence lets him down. I think the problem is that, like I mentioned earlier, I think him and the club are trying to develop into a player which are against his best qualities. The club wants to market him as the main man and goal scorer and I think he's bought into that. I think he can develop into a top class forward cutting in from wide but I don't think he'll ever be a 30 goals a season man. He can collect the balls and get past the defender in tight spaces, it's best from wide, given that he'll cock it up in the box more often than not.
 
Yeah, he's got that ability to get into those spaces and positions but a lack of composure perhaps or confidence lets him down. I think the problem is that, like I mentioned earlier, I think him and the club are trying to develop into a player which are against his best qualities. The club wants to market him as the main man and goal scorer and I think he's bought into that. I think he can develop into a top class forward cutting in from wide but I don't think he'll ever be a 30 goals a season man. He can collect the balls and get past the defender in tight spaces, it's best from wide, given that he'll cock it up in the box more often than not.

Completely agree with all of that. I think Martial getting injured forced us to play him centrally. Even in the second half Ole realized that he's not going to be effective as CF and moved him to the left.
 
Completely agree with all of that. I think Martial getting injured forced us to play him centrally. Even in the second half Ole realized that he's not going to be effective as CF and moved him to the left.
What is comforting is that, Ole being a center forward himself, will understand this with Rashford's game and do what's best for the team and his own future. I'd hope Rashford can work out on the right or that James could. They are our three most promising attacking players and we need them to have balance this season. Can't have Jlingz stinking it up.
 
Yeah, he's got that ability to get into those spaces and positions but a lack of composure perhaps or confidence lets him down. I think the problem is that, like I mentioned earlier, I think him and the club are trying to develop into a player which are against his best qualities. The club wants to market him as the main man and goal scorer and I think he's bought into that. I think he can develop into a top class forward cutting in from wide but I don't think he'll ever be a 30 goals a season man. He can collect the balls and get past the defender in tight spaces, it's best from wide, given that he'll cock it up in the box more often than not.
Yep, our own version of Mane.
 
The problem with Rashford is that he's actually terrible at getting on the end of anything. High crosses, low crosses, balls played through etc; He's effective playing from wide and cutting in and he's a very talented player and already with a lot of experience for his age, but he's just not the player the club or the player seem to want to be, which is the central striker.

The issue there is that I'd like to see Dan James keep on in that position, as he has a lot of ability and a great future, so can Rashford be tried out on the right or will they just try to lump James out there?

While I don't agree 100% with the bolded part, I remember his first games for us and many of the goals he scored were "typical number 9" goals. His first 2 against Midgetland was a result of being in the right place at the right time, and then he scored two against Arsenal (one of them even a header), again being in the right place at the right time. These days he rarely scores that type of goals, in fact, the last one I remember was that injury time winner against Hull a few years back.

It's weird because he has grown into a completely different player, not at all reminiscent of that lethal youth prospect that scored in every single debut.
 
Well there's your problem right there.

The highlights won't show him constantly putting his head down and running into defenders, or running the ball straight out of play which he did on numerous occasions last night.

I'm a big fan of Rashford and I still think he can become a top player, but he was woeful last night.

This right here is his biggest problem imo. Being direct can be great, and hes scored some wonderful goals from just that, but so many times he just runs straight into trouble when he just should have made a simple pass
 
Saw this comment on the BBC. Puts things in perspective.

Rashford's goals in 1st 4 seasons
7
12
15
17
Total 51
Rooney's 1st 4 season's
8
9
17
19
Total 53
Shearer's 1st 4 season's
3
0
5
14
Total 22
Henry's 1st 4 season's
3
3
10
11
Total 27
Ronaldo's 1st 4 season's
5
6
9
12
Total 32
He is on course to be a top striker.

You do know it's not the goal scoring we have an issue with, right?
 
Pretty much every single player at this level has an agent working for them, trying to get their clients best possible contract. His goldchain and poor form is no evidence he doesn’t love the club either. He might never become more than a erratic, frustrating player in the mould of Welbeck, but this anger is ott.

I can accept that criticism. I am developing a real vendetta against Rashford, I think. I stand by pretty much everything I've said but I agree I need to tone it down a bit. For the record, a better version of Welbeck is what I see when I watch him - that for me isn't a compliment but I'm sure some will think it is.
 
The issue is he doesnt score enough natural striker goals. Not many tapping. Not many inside the 6 yard area.

Well he doesn't play as a striker for the most part...

The issue really is the development of his overall play and game at this age
 
Again, we’re talking about a striker here. Trying to pretend the number of goals scored is somehow a poor way to judge his quality is fecking ludicrous.

It's possible to score goals and still be a net negative on the team. That's the whole reason we sold Lukaku.

Not saying Rashford is a net negative, but with that at least you can see where others are coming from.
 
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You do know it's not the goal scoring we have an issue with, right?

It’s easy to forget that Rashford is developing against far more difficult competition than a generation ago. English top flight never had anywhere near the number of world class players it has today. It’s not unreasonable to say it’s become the most competitive league in the world. Despite this, Rashford is keeping pace with the best at his level of experience.
 
1 goal in 5 league games excluding pens suggests he is on course for circa 10/12 goals again this season in the league. Where is the humble kid who broke into the team a few years ago and who just seemed to do the simple things well. Now I just get annoyed watching him play, constantly losing the ball and making stupid decisions. He needs to get back to the basics and fast. He gives me the impression that he thinks he has already made it and has nothing left to prove when the opposite is true.
 
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