AltiUn
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He was brilliant today, constant nightmare for the Leeds defence.
I don't see the comparison — van Persie was always an enigmatic player with magical moments that needed to be more consistent, (and to spend less time injured). Rashford was incredibly prolific when he first came in and still remains quite effective (for a young player), but he isn't capable of some of the goals that young van Persie (or Ibra, who had the same career trajectory) were capable of. Martial — perhaps, especially since both van Persie and Ibra had a bit of an attitude growing up.People just need to be patient with him. Only 21. Not every player is fully developed as a striker in their early 20's, but he keeps progressing which is all you can ask. Its transition years, but I have no doubt that he'll be a key player for us for years. 20+ goals in all competitions this year IMO, but even if he doesnt, not a disaster. Took Van Persie til he was like 25 or 26 to become a regular scorer.
I don't see anything from Martial that is enigmatic like RVP. He's the polar opposite, you know exactly what he will do.I don't see the comparison — van Persie was always an enigmatic player with magical moments that needed to be more consistent, (and to spend less time injured). Rashford was incredibly prolific when he first came in and still remains quite effective (for a young player), but he isn't capable of some of the goals that young van Persie (or Ibra, who had the same career trajectory) were capable of. Martial — perhaps, especially since both van Persie and Ibra had a bit of an attitude growing up.
Great game by Rashford though! Really hope that this is his breakthrough season.
I'll be delighted to eat my words if he keeps this up for the season. The 'sacred cow' status irked me and now he's on a big contract I hope he isn't 'exempt' from criticism when it's warranted. But these signs are really promising. Actually starting to feel excited for the new season...
Not similar in style, but just saying that it's not rare for a young striker to be an inconsistent goalscorer at a young age, even in his 20's. I'd also definitely say that "a player with magical moments but inconsistent performances" applies for both Martial and Rashford. It's not like he's at his peak now, his peak would be showing consistent form over a long stretch instead of just for 4-5 games like he does at times (like opening month or 2 with Ole).I don't see the comparison — van Persie was always an enigmatic player with magical moments that needed to be more consistent, (and to spend less time injured). Rashford was incredibly prolific when he first came in and still remains quite effective (for a young player), but he isn't capable of some of the goals that young van Persie (or Ibra, who had the same career trajectory) were capable of. Martial — perhaps, especially since both van Persie and Ibra had a bit of an attitude growing up.
Great game by Rashford though! Really hope that this is his breakthrough season.
I'll be delighted to eat my words if he keeps this up for the season. The 'sacred cow' status irked me and now he's on a big contract I hope he isn't 'exempt' from criticism when it's warranted. But these signs are really promising. Actually starting to feel excited for the new season...
I was there that game, favourite away game so far.Similar to his goal against City where he nicked Demichellis
If you have to ask, you're streets behind.Honestly, he's streets ahead of Martial as a striker.
He is a running machine. Needs to learn when to conserve energy and when to run like a maniac. Once he masters that he'll be more technically prepared in tight situations instead of being tired and making lazy flicks or just bad decisions. Love him though, and looks like he is ready to continue his progress this season. We'll just have to hope he can fulfil his potential sooner rather than later. Has to be more consistent than last season.
I agree. You never know what level he would be at without that dedication, he might not even be good enough so we have to be patient and appreciate his journey to the top, because thats clearly what he is aiming for, and that is so admirable.You've said it all really.
Would only add that his mentality and overall approach to the game is quite something for me. He seems "hungry" and focused all the time! Mistakes he makes are just a remainder that's he's still player in the making but his dedication to learn and improve is always there!
I was just thinking that. Gomes, Pogba and Garner or McTominay behind them.Rashford - Greenwood - Sancho
Within two years, make it happen.
The issue with Rashford is his good games can be good but his bad games are really bad. This is why I said he needs to take advantage of moments by making the right decisions. I like Martial but I feel Rashford has a higher ceiling. I think Ole could be his perfect mentor.
Rashford - Greenwood - Sancho
Within two years, make it happen.
Rashford - Greenwood - Sancho
Within two years, make it happen.
He will make a lot of fans on here eat crow. I remember many on here saying he is not good enough and couldn’t be relied on as our main striker next season. Can’t wait to see him prove them wrong
Rashford for me has to be in the middle, wouldn’t want to see him anywhere else.
Great goal but should have passed it imo. Those tricks don't come off often enough against top sides.
People just need to be patient with him. Only 21. Not every player is fully developed as a striker in their early 20's, but he keeps progressing which is all you can ask. Its transition years, but I have no doubt that he'll be a key player for us for years. 20+ goals in all competitions this year IMO, but even if he doesnt, not a disaster. Took Van Persie til he was like 25 or 26 to become a regular scorer.
22 goals in 78 games at Feyenoord and then 43 goals in 133 games in his first 4 seasons at Arsenal! So 65 goals in 211 appearances in his first 7 seasons as a professional, a little less than a goal every 3 games. Just gotta be patient for the regular scoring to come IMO, all it is.Said before but I think after Mbappé, he’s the best young striker in the world. Think he’ll get around 22/23 this season and then from the next one, we are looking at a 35-40 goal striker for a few years once he’s put his game together.
Also, Perdue was always a regular goalscorer I think, injuries were his problem. He was getting around 1 in 2 in his first years at Arsenal, the only problem is he was playing 20 games a season at the time.
Quality player he was though.
Disagree. He was in a 1 v 1 situation and he had the momentum. I think he's entitled based on his confidence and how he was playing. He could have past it and over hit it or under hit it. I much prefer personally to see a striker take responsibility on. Where he did excellent, was with the pass to James however (when he hit the post), for me that was the right decision. Often it's about moments and picking your moments and I think he did that well tbh
His form dropped off in a bad way in around the 2nd PSG leg last season, but he's looking back to his best now thankfully. This is what happens with young players, was silly for some to write him off. He's not going to be consistently brilliant yet, he will drop off again.
He delivered 2 months of good performances over the course of the season, so I'd say his form has peaked for a short period and reverted back to his usual level.
True. Don't put much stock in these pre-season friendlies anyway. I would like to see him perform at a high level for a full season, before changing my opinion of him. Which is, he is highly inconsistent and does not have the tools to be a Man Utd no 9. Too often, his performances fluctuate between a -1/10 and a 7/10. A Man Utd No 9 must have a ceiling of 9/10 and a floor of 6/10. We so need a player like RVP right now. He is the blueprint for how a Utd striker should play. I am hoping Mason develops into that kind of a player.