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It was almost as bad as the Bebe crossing show. He needs to find composure infront of goal or he could do a job on the right wing, his crossing is very good.
Rashford is a very strange player, very polar, either great or absolutely woeful
 
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Catch said:
Rashford looks much better playing for england, in a better coached team.
sure he misses chances but so does every forward. We are much better with him than with Lukaku.

Lineker got it spot on for me last night, when he said he wouldnt be happy if any manager did that to him when he missed a chance. This is a world cup golden boot winner who was relatively placid and he has the hump with mourinhos antics.
So what would a youngster like Rashford be going thinking. Cant be great for his confidence.

So how can a serial "loser" like southgate get a much better performance out of Rashford than the often reminded Serial winner Mourinho?
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It was only last month where Rashford was blasted for his performance against Croatia.
 
11101 said:
People are not piling on him because he missed a couple of chances last night. They're piling on him because he misses a couple of chances every single game.

His matches usually go the same way. He's got decent movement and he likes to use his pace, but hes not particularly good at dribbling and any time he gets anywhere dangerous he runs down blind alleys or fluffs the pass/shot. He costs us 2 or 3 good chances every time he plays and in the state we're in we can't afford that. Welbeck was exactly the same but SAF knew to put him wide and use the things he was good at. Mourinho can't get anything out of Rashford out wide but we can't persist with him as a striker.
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As does every striker that every has lived. The problem is that we create so little, a problem that isn't remedied by creating some mythical striker that scores every chance they get.

I'm not going to get in to a pointless argument about whether he's better than Welbeck or not (he's already scored more goals than him in less games and apparently goals are all that matter these days), I'm not going to argue he had a particularly good game. But I am going to argue that his talent is incredibly obvious. Whether he ever fully fulfils it or not (plenty of players haven't for all sorts of reasons), it still seems downright bizarre to be incredibly toxic about him after a game where he was the only player actually trying to play the game in a way that our fans have been demanding whilst praising the big lumbering tree that was at the heart of our malaise on the ball last night.
 
NinjaFletch said:
As does every striker that every has lived. The problem is that we create so little, a problem that isn't remedied by creating some mythical striker that scores every chance they get.

I'm not going to get in to a pointless argument about whether he's better than Welbeck or not (he's already scored more goals than him in less games and apparently goals are all that matter these days), I'm not going to argue he had a particularly good game. But I am going to argue that his talent is incredibly obvious. Whether he ever fully fulfils it or not (plenty of players haven't for all sorts of reasons), it still seems downright bizarre to be incredibly toxic about him after a game where he was the only player actually trying to play the game in a way that our fans have been demanding whilst praising the big lumbering tree that was at the heart of our malaise on the ball last night.
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What is he good at? If his talent is obvious, it should be easy.

He can shoot from range
He's quick
He is good at getting in behind defensive lines
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He's not a particularly good dribbler
He doesn't find the dangerous positions in the box
He has no composure in one v ones
He's not a creative player
He's not a great hold up player
He's an average passer

What type of striker is he going to become with those qualities? You need to be a lot more than a speed merchant in today's game.
 
11101 said:
What is he good at? If his talent is obvious, it should be easy.

He can shoot from range
He's quick
He is good at getting in behind defensive lines
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He's not a particularly good dribbler
He doesn't find the dangerous positions in the box
He has no composure in one v ones
He's not a creative player
He's not a great hold up player
He's an average passer

What type of striker is he going to become with those qualities? You need to be a lot more than a speed merchant in today's game.
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We've seen him show examples of him being good at almost all of those things that you've said he isn't good at. Has he done it consistently or as often as we might like? No, of course not, but to deny that he's ever shown any talent there is stretching reality to breaking point.

But then again, you think Welbeck showed more, so I'm perhaps not surprised you've forgotten anything good that Rashford has done.
 
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The internatinal teams thing is a myth that has been invented to excuse the underperforming players.

You can have a single great game, but club level and league is where your consistency is evaluated.
 
NinjaFletch said:
We've seen him show examples of him being good at almost all of those things that you've said he isn't good at. Has he done it consistently? No, of course not, but to deny that he's ever shown any talent there is stretching reality to breaking point.

But then again, you think Welbeck showed more, so I'm perhaps not surprised you've forgotten anything good that Rashford has done.
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Anyone can do it some of the time. To be a striker for a club of our stature means you have to do it all the time. The players who have started consistently for us all could. Of all the strikers who have played 100+ games for us, Rashford has the worst goalscoring record, and its not close. Only Welbeck himself is worse and he started as a striker for a grand total of 13 out of his 65 games under SAF. Rashford is on 26 already.
 
11101 said:
Anyone can do it some of the time. To be a striker for a club of our stature means you have to do it all the time. The players who have started consistently for us all could. Of all the strikers who have played 100+ games for us, Rashford has the worst goalscoring record, and its not close. Only Welbeck himself is worse and he started as a striker for a grand total of 13 out of his 65 games under SAF.
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Except most of his games are as a sub and as a winger.

Rashford played 28 games as CF in 2011-12 season alone.
 
The scrutiny is going to fall a lot more on him soon if he doesn't improve, his age and Jose the bad guy are protecting him from a lot of it. He's never going to displace Kane as England CF and Calum Wilson has already probably leapfrogged him as second choice. His finishing is atrocious right now and it's not good enough.
 
Has to be up there as one of the worst finishers I have seen for a professional footballer. Can hit a ball as hard as he wants but composure and technique are much more important
 
Another player among 95% of our squad that is Nowhere near the quality we should expect at united but I guess with how easily the board and fans accept mediocrity nowadays I guess he is.
 
roonster09 said:
You can check highlights or season review. Welbeck was leading the line before getting injured vs Arsenal, after that again he played as CF. Young, Nani and Valencia were wingers that season.

Also the link you have given shows how many mins players played, not which position.
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You have to scroll to the bottom and press squad list.
 
11101 said:
You have to scroll to the bottom and press squad list.
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Go through it and tell me if it's believable?

Rooney ML
Ferdinand MC
Evra CB
Young CF

They didn't pay that position at all and according to that site everyone played more than 10 games in above mentioned positions.

Anyways it's obvious Welbeck was our CF that season and he played as LW next season.
 
roonster09 said:
Go through it and tell me if it's believable?

Rooney ML
Ferdinand MC
Evra CB
Young CF

They didn't pay that position at all and according to that site everyone played more than 10 games in above mentioned positions.

Anyways it's obvious Welbeck was our CF that season and he played as LW next season.
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To be honest i didn't really look beyond a glance at Welbeck's numbers and Whoscored is usually pretty reliable. Either way Welbeck was never good enough for us, no matter how many games he did or didnt play as a CF, and he is the only one with 100+ games and a worse goalscoring record than Rashford.
 
11101 said:
To be honest i didn't really look beyond a glance at Welbeck's numbers and Whoscored is usually pretty reliable. Either way Welbeck was never good enough for us, no matter how many games he did or didnt play as a CF, and he is the only one with 100+ games and a worse goalscoring record than Rashford.
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Sure? How many did Ronaldo score in his first 100? Or are you comparing players who played as strikers vs Rashford who played most games as a sub and winger.
 
roonster09 said:
Sure? How many did Ronaldo score in his first 100? Or are you comparing players who played as strikers vs Rashford who played most games as a sub and winger.
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All strikers who played more than 100 games, including players like Martial who play there every now and then, but not players like Lingard who are forwards but never strikers.

Ronaldo very rarely played as a CF for us.
 
He isn't good enough at this age to be relied upon that much is clear. He might improve to be a worthy first choice striker but i don't think he will.

I just wish we'd stop forcing the idea that he's the next big thing and pushing them in too early. We do it far more than other clubs
 
Too many of our players are struggling with bad form and confidence.

Issue is we have a Manager who doesn't lift our players confidence and bring the best out of them. It's that simple. Rashford has shown plenty of times already in his career that he's got fantastic potential, he needs protecting like Ronaldo was and this simply isn't happening.

I agree with @Smores to a degree. Too many of our young players get bigged up too quickly which puts immense pressure on them. But at the same time, we have an environment right now at the club that critises our young players on a regular basis. It's bullshit frankly.

If we got an attacking Manager that brings through Young players we'd see a totally different side to players like Rashford, Pogba, Lingard and Lukaku imo.
 
He needs a time off and some coaches to work with him closely. Working on his confidence is more important. This is not his level.
 
11101 said:
All strikers who played more than 100 games, including players like Martial who play there every now and then, but not players like Lingard who are forwards but never strikers.

Ronaldo very rarely played as a CF for us.
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Rashford also barely played as CF. So comparing him to CFs is just weird. He played around 2500 mind as CF. He is more of a winger than CF for ManUtd.
 
RedSky said:
Too many of our players are struggling with bad form and confidence.

Issue is we have a Manager who doesn't lift our players confidence and bring the best out of them. It's that simple. Rashford has shown plenty of times already in his career that he's got fantastic potential, he needs protecting like Ronaldo was and this simply isn't happening.

I agree with @Smores to a degree. Too many of our young players get bigged up too quickly which puts immense pressure on them. But at the same time, we have an environment right now at the club that critises our young players on a regular basis. It's bullshit frankly.

If we got an attacking Manager that brings through Young players we'd see a totally different side to players like Rashford, Pogba, Lingard and Lukaku imo.
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The idea that all he needs is a pat on the back then his technique will improve is a stretch. It's a fabricated argument thats only popular because it's the inverse of what our manager does, not working = need to the opposite is an easy argument.

Kane is the perfect example of what should be happening. He had tough loans to real mens football, learned the trade. Do you for a second think he didn't face constant criticism? He wasn't coddled.

The idea that a 21 year old striker isn't ready for Man Utd shouldn't be something so difficult to accept.
 
RedSky said:
But at the same time, we have an environment right now at the club that critises our young players on a regular basis. It's bullshit frankly.

If we got an attacking Manager that brings through Young players we'd see a totally different side to players like Rashford, Pogba, Lingard and Lukaku im
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Forget club and managers, it's just ridiculous that ManUtd fansbhave written off young players like Rashford. So many are so eager to make bs predictions and then just stick to it no matter what.
 
roonster09 said:
Rashford also barely played as CF. So comparing him to CFs is just weird. He played around 2500 mind as CF. He is more of a winger than CF for ManUtd.
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According to Transfermarkt he has played 63 of his 138 games there, so pretty much half.
 
11101 said:
According to Transfermarkt he has played 63 of his 138 games there, so pretty much half.
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Most of them are as a sub here and there. I checked game by game and posted the mins. It's no where near enough.
 
Smores said:
The idea that all he needs is a pat on the back then his technique will improve is a stretch. It's a fabricated argument thats only popular because it's the inverse of what our manager does, not working = need to the opposite is an easy argument.

Kane is the perfect example of what should be happening. He had tough loans to real mens football, learned the trade. Do you for a second think he didn't face constant criticism? He wasn't coddled.

The idea that a 21 year old striker isn't ready for Man Utd shouldn't be something so difficult to accept.
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He doesn't need a pat on the back. He needs a Manager that believes in him and doesn't use him as a political tool to swerve critism away from himself. He needs a Manager who actually promotes exciting attacking football to bring back some life and joy to the team. Just go through our squad and look at the amount of players suffering bad form, are they all shit? No. They're just badly coached with zero confidence from a negative Manager.

Kane broke through at Tottenham at the perfect time. Using him as an example is flawed imo. Tottenham played possession football and gave him clear cut chances in the opposition penalty area on a regular basis. His all round play when he broke through was actually pretty shit but he had time to adapt and learn because his only genuine competition was Soldado. He also had a Manager that believed in his ability and continually picked him and never critised him in the public eye. The difference in Kanes development under Pochettino and Rashfords development is night and day.

Some indeed expect way too much for a (just turned) 21 year old.

roonster09 said:
Forget club and managers, it's just ridiculous that ManUtd fansbhave written off young players like Rashford. So many are so eager to make bs predictions and then just stick to it no matter what.
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Agreed.
 
RedSky said:
Too many of our players are struggling with bad form and confidence.

Issue is we have a Manager who doesn't lift our players confidence and bring the best out of them. It's that simple. Rashford has shown plenty of times already in his career that he's got fantastic potential, he needs protecting like Ronaldo was and this simply isn't happening.

I agree with @Smores to a degree. Too many of our young players get bigged up too quickly which puts immense pressure on them. But at the same time, we have an environment right now at the club that critises our young players on a regular basis. It's bullshit frankly.

If we got an attacking Manager that brings through Young players we'd see a totally different side to players like Rashford, Pogba, Lingard and Lukaku imo.
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I agree he's been disappointing but that it's also unfair to him. Been mismanaged to the wind after that debut and encouraging run of performances...

In a perfect world, over the past two seasons Rashford got a healthy number of starts up top along with don't-try-to-do-it-all-at-once instruction ('this game we want to you work on this; try such and such, see if it works for you, see if it changes the way defenders play you' - TBF from the way he started, I'm not sure he even needed such specifics) and a firm manager shielding him from extreme praise or criticism.

Best case scenario he blossoms while also learning how and why rotation is necessary for team-building. Worst case he develops into a decent option up top.

But no.

Sigh.
 
He needs to go on loan, he's not good enough to be here.He should prove himself somewhere else and if he's good enough we bring him back. He's even worse than Lukaku and we know how bad he's playing. He does things well instinctively but when he has to think before doing something he just doesn't know what to do, he plays like he has no brain.
 
So the reason we hardly ever see young strikers break through at top clubs is only because they weren't believed in enough? Come off it, it's just excuses for excuses sake.

People need to seperate criticism of the manager and evaluation of players. This ideal pressure free environment of bringing young strikers through doesn't exist.

There's a long list of players who have been brought into the team early done well and then struggled. How long is the list of young strikers coming straight through at a top club (no loans) and performing? Give me one example in the premier league era
 
The one he hit at the side netting, he should have moved away and let Martial hit it. Martial dribbled through and was going to hit it when Rashford hit it into the side netting. I think Martial was upset that he didn't get the chance. I think he is way too selfish too. He needs to go out on loan.
 
11101 said:
Anyone can do it some of the time. To be a striker for a club of our stature means you have to do it all the time. The players who have started consistently for us all could. Of all the strikers who have played 100+ games for us, Rashford has the worst goalscoring record, and its not close. Only Welbeck himself is worse and he started as a striker for a grand total of 13 out of his 65 games under SAF. Rashford is on 26 already.
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No, they can't.

He turned 21 years old last month ffs. Of course he's not the finished article, but to dismiss anytime he's shown any ability as irrelevant because he hasn't done it consistently is worse than stupid.

If United fans want the club to invest in youth and develop players, as most fans claim they want us to, then you have to put up with the fact he will be inconsistent as he develops. He also might never get there, but that's the gamble you take when you invest in young plays.

But hey, you're being downright dishonest with your use of stats, so I suspect that you simply have an agenda.
 
He's missing too many chances he should be burying. Yes he's still developing and, yes, missing is part of that development but I hope he sorts it out sooner rather than later.

Come on Marcus! :devil:
 
Foxbatt said:
The one he hit at the side netting, he should have moved away and let Martial hit it. Martial dribbled through and was going to hit it when Rashford hit it into the side netting. I think Martial was upset that he didn't get the chance. I think he is way too selfish too. He needs to go out on loan.
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I know the part you mean but I’d say Rashford was in the best position to take the shot. If Martial takes it he is further away from the ball and that defender probably moves across to block the shot anyway. Personally I would have preferred Martial to take it but in reality Rashford had the best angle he just fluffed it and I think he slipped as well did he not or just fall over?
 
Lets get one thing clear, Rashford is never a striker. He's not a natural finisher and he prefers to cut in from wide channels, I'd say he will develop into a fantastic wide forward but he's certainly never going to be a free scoring goalscorer.
 
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