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He was quite good under Mourinho for 1.5 seasons, then he all of a sudden turned into a kick and run player. He regularly runs the ball out of play for no reason now, which he didn't do at all for most of his career.

I don't buy that he is an average player, he's done way too much before turning 21 for that to be true. Its more mental for me, pressure and confidence related.
 
I think its also because England have a much clearer game plan and have the ball more often. So he has more opportunities to push forward.

Rashford had 8 dribbles against Croatia, 7 were successful. For United in the Premier League this season he's had 14, 3 successful.

Something it going on as he's a much better player for England. Perhaps simply a scenario where Englands style of play is more suited to Rashford than Uniteds current style.


I think Rashford thrive in a structured system where he doesn't need to think about making decisions, player to support him, play as the team, and not often isolated by least at 2 defenders, England and LVG play to his strength, one of the reasons why he looks better in system based because they all together work as together. Under Jose, there's no style of play we want to play and has no attacking plan game so player becomes more dependent on decisions making so they can be looking clueless and look like they met each other for the first time, they have to make something out of nothing rather than playing like a team trying to score. A system is everything. Modern football is no longer what it used to be 4-5-6 decades back where a single player can have a basketball like disproportionate effect on the game. This is why there are no lone defenders/libero's running the show. A game is more team based now than it has ever been in its history. And since Space is the fundamental commodity, System assumes disproportionate relevance.

This is why coaches like Mourinho are struggling to adapt. Reactive coaches don't work as effectively in such a state of the modern game.
 
I think Rashford thrive in a structured system where he doesn't need to think about making decisions, player to support him, play as the team, and not often isolated by least at 2 defenders, England and LVG play to his strength, one of the reasons why he looks better in system based because they all together work as together. Under Jose, there's no style of play we want to play and has no attacking plan game so player becomes more dependent on decisions making so they can be looking clueless and look like they met each other for the first time, they have to make something out of nothing rather than playing like a team trying to score. A system is everything. Modern football is no longer what it used to be 4-5-6 decades back where a single player can have a basketball like disproportionate effect on the game. This is why there are no lone defenders/libero's running the show. A game is more team based now than it has ever been in its history. And since Space is the fundamental commodity, System assumes disproportionate relevance.

This is why coaches like Mourinho are struggling to adapt. Reactive coaches don't work as effectively in such a state of the modern game.
Some of this is true. Some of it is nonsense though - show me a system where players don’t have to make decisions? Our play under LVG compared to Jose was much slower and isolated the strikers even more I would say.
 
Marcus Rashford's average time on pitch by Manchester United manager

Under Louis van Gaal - 78.5 minutes
Under Jose Mourinho - 55.2 minutes
 
Bunch of reports linking him away from United. Paul Ince thinks Rashford might be jealous of what Jadon Sancho is achieving by leaving Manchester.

To be honest maybe that's the best career move for him right now. A season or two away from Man United
 
Personally, I'd prefer if Rashford can get playing time as a striker or left forward somewhere at a midtable club in EPL or in Europe and leave substitution minutes to Mason Greenwoods around 20-30 minutes per game. I think it would be a good idea for their development so they can focus on their development and see if they can make it at a high level. Rashford is 21 years old, not kid anymore and should be not wasting his year with us playing as squad player/substitution, I think he should go somewhere where he can play every full game (Min70), I would be happy to take him back if he can become a better player even if Mason Greenwood turn out to be Mbappe level/elite-player.
 
Bunch of reports linking him away from United. Paul Ince thinks Rashford might be jealous of what Jadon Sancho is achieving by leaving Manchester.

To be honest maybe that's the best career move for him right now. A season or two away from Man United

He'd never get a club anywhere near the size of united. Nor would he get a club that's as tolerant of his consistently poor performances.
 
Yes, yes. You hate Rashford. We get it. But the links are real, I doubt he'd leave but its testiment to his ability that such elite clubs are looking at him as an option.

I don't hate Rashford but I don't think he's good enough for us (and certainly not for Real Madrid) and a rumour written in the Sun newspaper isn't going to convince me that Perez disagrees with that.
 
I don't hate Rashford but I don't think he's good enough for us (and certainly not for Real Madrid) and a rumour written in the Sun newspaper isn't going to convince me that Perez disagrees with that.

You also don't think he's good enough for England. All i've seen you do is throw abuse at him, thats hate. The rumours are all over the media, not just one small source. Personally I think he'd do better at Juventus than Real Madrid though. He'll do well at either club though imo as they play football that suits his style far more than ours right now.
 
You also don't think he's good enough for England. All i've seen you do is throw abuse at him, thats hate. The rumours are all over the media, not just one small source. Personally I think he'd do better at Juventus than Real Madrid though. He'll do well at either club though imo as they play football that suits his style far more than ours right now.

I have nothing against Rashford, I just don't rate him as a footballer. And the rumour originated in the Sun (as far as I can see) so I wouldn't place too much credit in it.

Anyway, I can't see how Juventus would work for him. They have Ronaldo, Dybala and Costa; that's three forwards better than anything we have. If he's unhappy with gametime here it would be worse there.
 
I have nothing against Rashford, I just don't rate him as a footballer. And the rumour originated in the Sun (as far as I can see) so I wouldn't place too much credit in it.

Anyway, I can't see how Juventus would work for him. They have Ronaldo, Dybala and Costa; that's three forwards better than anything we have. If he's unhappy with gametime here it would be worse there.

He'd rotate with Costa in their lineup (whom is nothing special). Which works great for him as he'd be in a better team which suits his style of play (dominating the ball and getting lots of possession). He'd have more chance to get at the opponents goal with more intelligent attackers around him to feed and make space for him. Also not as much of a powder keg environment as it is over at Real Madrid.
 
He's an enigma. Every time I watch him in the NT I can't help but think there's a serious player here. But he's been very poor for us, for almost 18 months. Bar a few good games at the start of last season, it's been bits and bobs.
I'm still convinced it's not because he's not been played up front. Some of his worst performances have come there. He also has no problem playing on the wings for England. I can't see why he cannot play on our right side. His lack of all round development is a concern.
 
A more youth orientated manager (Not perfect but LVG for example) would realize that taking him out of the starting line up for the occasional bad game in the long term isn't a good idea.

He needs to be played consistently to get over the bumps in form and a two striker formation would get the best out of both him and Martial as well as Lukaku (rotating 2 at a time) who wouldn't have to come so deep all of the time.

Switching to a 4-3-1-2 with high pressing would work wonders for our entire squad.
 
He's an enigma. Every time I watch him in the NT I can't help but think there's a serious player here. But he's been very poor for us, for almost 18 months. Bar a few good games at the start of last season, it's been bits and bobs.
I'm still convinced it's not because he's not been played up front. Some of his worst performances have come there. He also has no problem playing on the wings for England. I can't see why he cannot play on our right side. His lack of all round development is a concern.

Maybe the level of competition for spots in the team have created psychological back pressure that he hasn’t been unable to handle.
 
Maybe the level of competition for spots in the team have created psychological back pressure that he hasn’t been unable to handle.

Has to be Jose. Southgate is probably telling him to go forward, attack, try stuff, play with freedom. Jose on the other hand will give him a bollocking and drop him for a month if he loses possession in the opposition penalty area.
 
He's an enigma. Every time I watch him in the NT I can't help but think there's a serious player here. But he's been very poor for us, for almost 18 months. Bar a few good games at the start of last season, it's been bits and bobs.
I'm still convinced it's not because he's not been played up front. Some of his worst performances have come there. He also has no problem playing on the wings for England. I can't see why he cannot play on our right side. His lack of all round development is a concern.

Neither of our "more talented" players can play on the right either, I don't see why is he expected to be good there.
 
Neither of our "more talented" players can play on the right either, I don't see why is he expected to be good there.
Martial has never played well on the right, and the difference between him on the left and on the right is huge. Whereas Rashford normally isn't that different on either side. He's shown he's capable of playing well on either side but he's inconsistent on both (maybe a little more consistent on the left though).

For his sake the right wing is also the spot that is completely open for him to win a starting spot in, so he really has to try to make it work. Martial hopefully has the left on lock-down now as he's simply our best attacker, and Rashford has always been poor when playing upfront by himself.
 
I may be wrong but I have a feeling that Rashford is competing in his mind with Martial. When he plays for United his passing to his team mates is only as last choice. In England it is different. If he tries to pass early and bring other players in early he may create that space for him to use his pace. He is no Martial to dribble past a couple of players.
At this moment in time, no matter which club he goes to if its a top club he is not going to be a regular. Madrid is not going to make him their main striker.
 
Rashford has always been poor when playing upfront by himself.

He's been excellent under van Gaal there, and had few decent games under Mourinho. But people give up on him as a striker after just one game for some reason. You cannot judge him there after just one or two games. Lukaku got half of the season to play himself back into form, and people said Rashford isn't good enough as a striker after just one or two games, even though recently when played up front he's been far better than anything Lukaku's shown this season, despite being out of form.
 
A lot of rumors about him in the press of Madrid.Unfortunately I think he is using us to renew
 
Juventus and Real Madrid interested in signing him...so... yeah.

He wouldn't even get in their matchday squads let alone on the pitch. If he's serious about going elsewhere and actually getting on the pitch, he should be looking at a lower table EPL team because he is not going to get minutes at any top team in the world.
 
He's been excellent under van Gaal there, and had few decent games under Mourinho. But people give up on him as a striker after just one game for some reason. You cannot judge him there after just one or two games. Lukaku got half of the season to play himself back into form, and people said Rashford isn't good enough as a striker after just one or two games, even though recently when played up front he's been far better than anything Lukaku's shown this season, despite being out of form.
It was hardly just one game. He's been poor there pretty much every time he's played there outside of the early days after his debut. Basically looks like a one trick pony and looking to use his pace to run behind the defenders. He really needs to improve his all-round game.

In saying that I do agree that, considering Lukaku's current form, Rashford did look better in the one (or was it two?) games he did play recently. If Lukaku hasn't improved that form over this break then Rashford may be worth a longer run up front, although I'm hoping Sanchez will get first dibs.
 
A lot of rumors about him in the press of Madrid.Unfortunately I think he is using us to renew
Who's reporting that? Either way he's nowhere near Madrid's level, be a bit of a pointless move for him.
 
It was hardly just one game. He's been poor there pretty much every time he's played there outside of the early days after his debut. Basically looks like a one trick pony and looking to use his pace to run behind the defenders. He really needs to improve his all-round game.

In saying that I do agree that, considering Lukaku's current form, Rashford did look better in the one (or was it two?) games he did play recently. If Lukaku hasn't improved that form over this break then Rashford may be worth a longer run up front, although I'm hoping Sanchez will get first dibs.

It was always maximum run of one or two games, find me a period under Mourinho when he played more than two games in a row up front(apart from this one at the moment).
 
Who's reporting that? Either way he's nowhere near Madrid's level, be a bit of a pointless move for him.
At first I think they quoted an article from the sun, talking about Eriksen and Rashford but a few days later OKDiario and ABC wrote related stories.
I like him a lot. Obviously I prefer Kane but for 60/70 million I think it would be a good bet
 
At first I think they quoted an article from the sun, talking about Eriksen and Rashford but a few days later OKDiario and ABC wrote related stories.
I like him a lot. Obviously I prefer Kane but for 60/70 million I think it would be a good bet
Those are very dubious sources, chances of Rashford leaving anytime soon are very slim. He's currently closer to Everton than Madrid, for £70m I'd bite your hand off.
 
At first I think they quoted an article from the sun, talking about Eriksen and Rashford but a few days later OKDiario and ABC wrote related stories.
I like him a lot. Obviously I prefer Kane but for 60/70 million I think it would be a good bet

Its funny that on this forum you need sensible oppo fans like you to give the delusional United fans a reality check.

Rashford gives you a goal or assist every other game at a top club at 20 years old. Just for reference, this is virtually the same as Ascensio. He'd be a squad player at most top clubs with potential to be a major starter in 2-3 years.
 
Its funny that on this forum you need sensible oppo fans like you to give the delusional United fans a reality check.

Rashford gives you a goal or assist every other game at a top club at 20 years old. Just for reference, this is virtually the same as Ascensio. He'd be a squad player at most top clubs with potential to be a major starter in 2-3 years.
Is it really delusional to believe Rashford isn't good enough for Madrid?
 
At first I think they quoted an article from the sun, talking about Eriksen and Rashford but a few days later OKDiario and ABC wrote related stories.
I like him a lot. Obviously I prefer Kane but for 60/70 million I think it would be a good bet

Those are very dubious sources, chances of Rashford leaving anytime soon are very slim. He's currently closer to Everton than Madrid, for £70m I'd bite your hand off.
Would dip your hand in some southern fried seasoning, put some soul in it, then chomp that bitch off for £70 million for Rashford.
 
Would dip your hand in some southern fried seasoning, put some soul in it, then chomp that bitch off for £70 million for Rashford.
Those are very dubious sources, chances of Rashford leaving anytime soon are very slim. He's currently closer to Everton than Madrid, for £70m I'd bite your hand off.

I thought of euros, but for that money you would not find anyone better. He is a profile that we do not have in the team.
In addition to his potential I like his attitude.
English football is fashionable. Rashford, Foden, Kane, Sancho, Alli...
Under normal circumstance, competitiveness of the premier + national team, they should all be important players and keep growing, being therefore more expensive.

But as I said, being his contract until 2020, it seems pretty clear that it's a matter of money.
 
Is it really delusional to believe Rashford isn't good enough for Madrid?

That's just an empty cliche and means nothing when actually looking at Madrid. Vasquez hasn't scored a single goal this season, and is just as uninspiring during his time at Madrid. But he has had a purpose in the squad for the last 4 years. Asensio is on a similar level to Rashford and has seen regular game time for the last 2-3 seasons.

Rashford is a mid-level talent that would make it at virtually every top club as a squad player. He doesn't have the quality to be a star player like Mbappe, but that's not really the question here. He's a player that will probably become a top player in his prime, he's no freak talent but he's got a lot of good qualities.
 
That's just an empty cliche and means nothing when actually looking at Madrid. Vasquez hasn't scored a single goal this season, and is just as uninspiring during his time at Madrid. But he has had a purpose in the squad for the last 4 years. Asensio is on a similar level to Rashford and has seen regular game time for the last 2-3 seasons.

Rashford is a mid-level talent that would make it at virtually every top club as a squad player. He doesn't have the quality to be a star player like Mbappe, but that's not really the question here. He's a player that will probably become a top player in his prime, he's no freak talent but he's got a lot of good qualities.

Vasquez is more like their Lingard. :D
 
Vasquez is more like their Lingard. :D

Yes, Vasquez gets game time for tactical reasons, to change the game and provide something different from their main forwards. There's room for these types of players at Madrid, they aren't a team filled with all time greats even on the bench. Rashford is definitely good enough for Madrid based on the players that have regularly played for Madrid over the last few years.
 
The question is, why would they actually go out and buy Rashford when they have squad players of his ilk. The lads mentioned are likely academy players who were free just like Rashford at United. We wouldnt go out and buy him as I imagine Real wouldn't but as a free academy home grown, he is useful as a squad player. I do not believe the rumours
 
Has to be Jose. Southgate is probably telling him to go forward, attack, try stuff, play with freedom. Jose on the other hand will give him a bollocking and drop him for a month if he loses possession in the opposition penalty area.

Jose has given him planty of time and chances. In fact, I would argue Jose should give him a bollocking and drop him for a month based on the performances Rashford has put up. Instead, we continue to see Rashford selected to our first team in important games, ahead of Sanchez.
 
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