Marco Verratti

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Yes, I know he has long term contract but you can't force an unhappy player to stay as this will affect the whole team. I believe something have been agreed to settle this latest "drama".
PSG can discipline him. It's not like they make him captain despite his antic . The whole can;t force an unhappy player to stay & PERFORM is about club need that player badly while he doesn't want to stay. PSG is just protecting their pride. They can bench Verratti for half a season while paying him his wage no problem & still have a quality team to challenge in French league.
 
I think it is more like PSG don't want to sell to Barca rather than PSG trying to keep him against his will. PSG are trying to build a team good enough to compete against the UCL elite, and selling their best midfielder-if not their best player- to the team that just beated them 6-1 in the competition is a backward step. If it was, say, Liverpool, Tottenham or Sevilla level of team trying to sign Verratti and he says he want to play for them, PSG won't have much problem selling him for the right price. Won't be great for PSG's ambition strengthening a direct UCL rival(Barca desperately need a verratti-type player) while simultaneously weakening themselves.
 
To be fair, PSG spend heavily every year and looks to continue doing so. I don't see how Verratti can complain about ambition etc. If he wanted to move, he needed to plan it better with his contract.
 
I think it is more like PSG don't want to sell to Barca rather than PSG trying to keep him against his will. PSG are trying to build a team good enough to compete against the UCL elite, and selling their best midfielder-if not their best player- to the team that just beated them 6-1 in the competition is a backward step. If it was, say, Liverpool, Tottenham or Sevilla level of team trying to sign Verratti and he says he want to play for them, PSG won't have much problem selling him for the right price. Won't be great for PSG's ambition strengthening a direct UCL rival(Barca desperately need a verratti-type player) while simultaneously weakening themselves.

So what you're saying is there's a chance?
 
The 6-1 hit him hard? Perhaps he shouldn't have played like shit then.

I've got no sympathy for him whatsoever.
 
I keep saying this and people continue to harp about it anyways...

Verratti signed that contract last year. Until March 2017 he had absolutely no intention of leaving. The 6-1 hit him hard. His desire to leave comes entirely from there

You're can see that's terrible justification for wanting to leave, right? It would hardly be a compelling argument he could give to his club. "I didn't want to leave...but then you lost one game, which I played badly in myself, so now I have to". He'd get laughed out of the room no matter which club he was talking to.
 
You're can see that's terrible justification for wanting to leave, right? It would hardly be a compelling argument he could give to his club. "I didn't want to leave...but then you lost one game, which I played badly in myself, so now I have to". He'd get laughed out of the room no matter which club he was talking to.
That's not my argument though. My argument is about the whole why did he sign if he wanted to leave. He signed because he didn't want to leave. It took an extraordinary circumstance to change his mind

And i agree PSG have every right to hold him to the contract. I just think if the player is so set on leaving, you don't refuse to negotiate. You set a price that is fair for you(and realistic. €120M is realistic, €400M is not) and leave it up to the buyer
 
Yes, I know he has long term contract but you can't force an unhappy player to stay as this will affect the whole team. I believe something have been agreed to settle this latest "drama".
Poor little guy. If he knows he wants to move on then you don't sign a new, hefty contract. And if he wants to leave, he needs a club who pays a new world record fee. Simple as that and I doubt Barca is able to cough up that amount of money. Cant feel sorry at all
 
The 6-1 hit him hard? Perhaps he shouldn't have played like shit then.

I've got no sympathy for him whatsoever.
Probably not a rational decision.

Did you know Adriano Galliani spent the summer of 2005 convincing half the players to stay and the other half to not retire?
 
Poor little guy. If he knows he wants to move on then you don't sign a new, hefty contract. And if he wants to leave, he needs a club who pays a new world record fee. Simple as that and I doubt Barca is able to cough up that amount of money. Cant feel sorry at all

It's probably the first time where two clubs should swap players. 10M+Verratti for Neymar.
 
It's probably the first time where two clubs should swap players. 10M+Verratti for Neymar.
Is Barca willing to give up Neymar? I doubt it, he will be next in line after Messi. They need him more than Verratti imo
 
Is Barca willing to give up Neymar? I doubt it, he will be next in line after Messi. They need him more than Verratti imo
With their current team i'm not sure, but letting neymar go would be stupid regardless. And €10M+Verratti? Madness. €100M+Verratti, maybe
 
Is Barca willing to give up Neymar? I doubt it, he will be next in line after Messi. They need him more than Verratti imo

I think that it would be easier to replace Neymar than Verratti. Basically they could swap both players and then target Dembélé or even Mbappé, obviously a lot of people will disagree but I think that long term that would be a great deal for both clubs.
 
It was about time the big 2 in spain feel the heat of inflation in the transfer market of which the seeds they contributed to sow in the first place, And this is just the start. The teams Will also soon find a way around Potential players which would force the move by not signing new deals as well.
 
There's no way Barça lets Neymar go. He's the third best player in the world and he'll be the best soon enough, they just need to actually get the best out of him and have him performing at the level he does for Brazil.
 
There's no way Barça lets Neymar go. He's the third best player in the world and he'll be the best soon enough, they just need to actually get the best out of him and have him performing at the level he does for Brazil.

Not without a competant midfeild behind him though:D Messi can take care of himself. Neymar will not.
 
That's not my argument though. My argument is about the whole why did he sign if he wanted to leave. He signed because he didn't want to leave. It took an extraordinary circumstance to change his mind

And i agree PSG have every right to hold him to the contract. I just think if the player is so set on leaving, you don't refuse to negotiate. You set a price that is fair for you(and realistic. €120M is realistic, €400M is not) and leave it up to the buyer

That is not an extroardinary circumstance. It's an excuse for his bad decision. If all it took was badly losing a quarter-final to change his mind then his reasons for signing in the first place were simply wrong. PSG making him pay for that kind of decision-making isn't such a big deal for me. We all make bad choices and we learn from them primarily by dealing with the negative consequences. This culture of giving the players everything they want regardless of their own decisions or acts is nonsense. That's not the way the world works.
 
Feck Barca. Come to United and be an instant starter and fulcrum of the team :devil:
 
More like 60m + Verratti for Neymar. Neymar is a match-winner. Verratti is not.

The fee is arguable if you can squeeze 60m out of PSG, do it. But the general idea is that Verratti+money for Neymar could benefit Barcelona and interest PSG.
 
If all it took was badly losing a quarter-final to change his mind then his reasons for signing in the first place were simply wrong
After Istanbul, Pirlo was dead set on leaving Milan and Gattuso wanted to retire. Don't underestimate the effects such a collapse can have on a player's mindset

Agree that it's no big deal though. PSG are doing what they believe is in their best interest, as they should.
 
There's nothing different between PSG and other top clubs when it comes to not selling their best players and you simply never see top players switching between top clubs anymore. The biggest selling clubs like Juve or BVB only sell when they want, running down players contracts if they need and only because they can't match the best wages.

The only thing with Verratti is that his agent is grossly incompetent and tries to compensate his inability to play the transfer and renewal game by talking too much. PSG allegedly advised Verratti to change his agent and now Di Campli is taking the piss and self-destructing in the media as a revenge.
 
The fee is arguable if you can squeeze 60m out of PSG, do it. But the general idea is that Verratti+money for Neymar could benefit Barcelona and interest PSG.

Not sure how much that would benefit Barcelona tbh. Neymar is a better player.
 
Not sure how much that would benefit Barcelona tbh. Neymar is a better player.

Because the idea is to have for example Verratti+Dembélé for a minimal fee.
 
I think that it would be easier to replace Neymar than Verratti. Basically they could swap both players and then target Dembélé or even Mbappé, obviously a lot of people will disagree but I think that long term that would be a great deal for both clubs.
But that is another 100m+. I just don't think Barca has the money, that's their problem and that is why they try to lowball for Verratti but PSG is having none of that. And rightly so
 
But that is another 100m+. I just don't think Barca has the money, that's their problem and that is why they try to lowball for Verratti but PSG is having none of that. And rightly so

I don't think that they low balled them, they didn't made any offer because PSG don't pick up the phone.
 
As it looks right now, Barca won't solve their midfield and depth problems this summer, but they will spend almost 200 mil € on Messi, Neymar and Suarez wages for just one season. They really want us to win the league again.
 
They should not pick up the phone.

A few years ago a football exec said that PSG were impossible to deal with because they weren't even communicating, generally clubs pretend and then politely reject offers but not PSG.
 
As it looks right now, Barca won't solve their midfield and depth problems this summer, but they will spend almost 200 mil € on Messi, Neymar and Suarez wages for just one season. They really want us to win the league again.

That's why I think Neymar should be offered to PSG, they want him and he could convince them to let Verratti go. And Dembélé plus Verratti will probably be less expensive than Neymar alone salary wise.
 
That's why I think Neymar should be offered to PSG, they want him and he could convince them to let Verratti go. And Dembélé plus Verratti will probably be less expensive than Neymar alone salary wise.

The biggest problem with that assuming it all worked out between the clubs would be convincing Neymar to go to PSG.
 
The biggest problem with that assuming it all worked out between the clubs would be convincing Neymar to go to PSG.

That's true, if Leonardo was still around it could have been easier but PSG can pay him a lot and brazilians seem to like PSG with Valdo, Rai and Leonardo having great moments there.
 
The biggest problem with that assuming it all worked out between the clubs would be convincing Neymar to go to PSG.
Easy enough, just offer him €20M a year after tax and he'll run to Paris

And i agree that Verratti+Dembelé > Neymar, but it's still risky. What if Dembelé isn't as talented as he looks/never fulfils his potential(which might or might not be Neymar's level)?
 
Easy enough, just offer him €20M a year after tax and he'll run to Paris

And i agree that Verratti+Dembelé > Neymar, but it's still risky. What if Dembelé isn't as talented as he looks/never fulfils his potential(which might or might not be Neymar's level)?

If like you suggested Barcelona can squeeze Dembélé's fee out of PSG then they minimize the risk. Worst case scenario, they still have the money they were going to pay for Verratti.
 
If like you suggested Barcelona can squeeze Dembélé's fee out of PSG then they minimize the risk. Worst case scenario, they still have the money they were going to pay for Verratti.
Yeah but my point was more that Verratti+Dembelé would only be better than neymar if the french kid fulfills his potential, otherwise, they'd still have to find another WC player

I'm sold on Dembelé and fully expect him to be great this season and morph into one of the 10 best in the world by 2019, so i think would do it if i were Barcelona

But also, i might just be projecting, since i hate them and want them to get weaker :D
 
That's not my argument though. My argument is about the whole why did he sign if he wanted to leave. He signed because he didn't want to leave. It took an extraordinary circumstance to change his mind

And i agree PSG have every right to hold him to the contract. I just think if the player is so set on leaving, you don't refuse to negotiate. You set a price that is fair for you(and realistic. €120M is realistic, €400M is not) and leave it up to the buyer
Losing one game is hardly an extraordinary circumstance. Also, I don't really think that has much to do with Verratti's decision. No player + agent is silly enough to make such a big decision based on one game.

It's also a negotiation tactic to say you won't sell the player at any price, and wait for the buyer to make a ridiculous bid. Maybe if Barcelona bid 100m PSG would listen, but I doubt Barca are willing to do it.
 
Easy enough, just offer him €20M a year after tax and he'll run to Paris

And i agree that Verratti+Dembelé > Neymar, but it's still risky. What if Dembelé isn't as talented as he looks/never fulfils his potential(which might or might not be Neymar's level)?

I really don't think he'd leave. Especially without winning a Ballon D'Or first and the chances of him winning it become a lot smaller if he goes to Paris. I'm not sure it would be such a bid advantage financially either as he can get a ridiculous amount of money in Barcelona too, especially when he becomes the team's main player.
 
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