Is he that Italian that players in midfield for PSG?
Marco Verratti
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Although I do think Verratti is the better player of the two, I don't think we can expect that sort of thing from our Herrera. Verratti will play the safe ball 99 times out of 100, rarely attempting to force the issue with a direct assist (or assist for an assist), as he goes sideways or backwards so much. Herrera is looser with possession but is a better dribbler & capable of a killer ball, especially when he's allowed further forward (Verratti doesn't really do much past the centre-circle).
Verratti is Scholes-like in his defending, very intense & aggressive, with no tackling ability. Herrera needs a very solid partner beside/behind him, as he doesn't have that same skill-set - he can press, but he is more offensive than defensive, as a midfielder. Both are fantastic players, but still so different.
Italian is Italian
It's not that simple. Italian can also be more Italian than Italian. Apparently.
It is debatable in general of course but personally for me there is no debate. One has shone more consistently throughout most matches for 2 and something years.
He'd look great passing the ball side to side ad infinitum in our midfield.
If I recall correctly, he was recruited just when Pescara were promoted to Serie A, so had only ever played in Serie B. It was quite a big amount for a young second division player, even though it was obvious he had huge potential. Has totally paid off though, no one can dispute it.
As far as I can see Verrati only has four goals at club level in his whole career.
Herrera and Verratti would compliment each other, not compete for the same spot in a midfield 3.
Herrera----Verratti
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Herrera----Verratti
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Feck's sake!
Iniesta will be 31 in the summer and Modric will still be 29. I think Barca makes more sense.
Verrati-Busquets-Rafinha/Rakitic
Also, the lovely interplay last night between Verrati and Motta could be duplicated by Verrati and Busquets.
The Barca transfer ban looks set to hurt them at RB unless Montoya steps up, but I could see PSG hanging on to Verrati until the summer of 2016 anyways.
Pep could go for him, too. He fits his style and maybe Thiago will be sadly written off.
No... Im sure Thiago will be put back together just long enough for us to buy him for a large sum of money (or even a crazy loan fee for a seaspon) before he completely breaks down and has to be written off.
Pogba has arguably been Serie A's best player this season and certainly Juventus'. No way has Verratti shown more consistently.
I think whilst the likes of Madrid, Chelsea, Barca, City are circulating Pogba, we should do everything we can to take Verratti.
Always liked him. Feisty bastard, reads the game well.
The problem with a hostile signing of Verratti is getting into a money battle with the PSG Sheik. He could destroy any rival club in the long run.
I don't think Verratti will be leaving PSG any time soon.
I don't think Verratti will be leaving PSG any time soon.
He really really has. There has been many matches where Pogba was a bit quiet and not that involved whereas Verratti has been PSG's best and most consistent player since August, specially when Ibra was struggling, Silva and Motta were struggling for form. Verratti has maintained his level impressively and this regardless of being a match in the league, in the cup or in the CL. He was great against Barca in both group matches, great in the first leg against Chelsea, struggled in the first half but found his best level in the second half of the return leg. Pogba performances vary a lot from the CL to playing in Italy, he's also a cracking talent but one has clearly easily been more consistent.
Ha ha
I agree with you, but I think it's not that useful comparing them, I don't think they're the same type of player. Verratti is much more based on consistency and keeping things running in the middle, getting the ball forward, etc. Whereas Pogba is probably going to influence games in a more visible manner, and you'll see highlight reels in 'L'Equipe du dimanche'.
A friend of mine (not a PSG supporter) was pointing out yesterday that along with Barça and Bayern, PSG are probably one of the best teams in Europe when it comes to bringing out the ball through the midfield, ushering it from defence to the attack without jumping lines. And that's in great part due to Verratti there, who can play under pressure with no problem, and also with how much Matuidi moves around to offer him a solution.
Their two CBs are also very comfortable on the ball and able to play a good range of passing from deep. Like you say enables them to build from the back very efficiently.
But it's the midfield who makes the difference, even when Camara plays they are comfortable at the back because the midfielders make everything easy by creating easy pass lane, and Verratti is probably the best in their team for that.
I'm sorry, but this description is incredibly wide of the mark. He's an incredible ball winner, quick across the ground and feisty. It gives away free kicks but it wins the ball the vast majority of the time; players despise being harassed in the way Verratti does it to them. He's most certainly not a safe ball player either. Obviously, he plays deeper so the risks he can take are limited, but his balls through the lines are exceptional and his passing range is very well rounded. He's exactly the type of player we need, it would be an absolute dream if we had him in our side.
No, he is not.
I would say this is spot on.
Rarely I have seen a player with such confidence with ball in 18 yard box during defending.
Well, we can dream.
Were it not for Leonardo, not sure PSG would've ever landed the player as Juve & AC were well aware of his development with Pescara - they simply couldn't compete with Qatari money. Same logic why the Parisien club won't be selling him anytime soon. It was a gamble as there were high expectations for the player and some wondered if he was too young for the move he made but it turned out to be a bargain.
Has more Gattuso than Pirlo to his game, IMO, but a fantastic player. Apart from Luiz, PSG have made great purchases in building a formidable squad in a short time. Should they upgrade Cavani for Benzema, Reus, Di Maria or similar, even better
Has more Gattuso than Pirlo to his game, IMO, but a fantastic player. Apart from Luiz, PSG have made great purchases in building a formidable squad in a short time. Should they upgrade Cavani for Benzema, Reus, Di Maria or similar, even better
In terms of ratio money spent/performances, him and Maxwell are their best purchases.
Those teams had plenty of chances to sign him, they just bottled it. They didn't even pay too much money for his services. You can't say its qatari money when teams refuse to pay 13million euro's. He literally begged Juve to sign him and said that he'd love to be under the tutelage of Pirlo, said he was a Juve fan and I think that's what cost Juve in the end. Beppe Morata thought it was in the bag and continuously tried to low ball them with his complicated deals that only Juve profit from but Pescara weren't having it. When the offer came from PSG they took it and he never looked back.
13 million for a 2nd division player in Italy? Only those who followed the Serie A knew much about him, it was a gamble that paid off only because Leonardo knew what he was getting and few bothered to pay anywhere near what was ultmately a pittance for the Qatari club
The fact that Juve knew he was a Pirlo & Juve fan, in their own backyard, they did what most Serie A clubs do when it comes to Italian talent - cheap it
I think he was at PSG prior to Juventus signing Pirlo.
Edit: Nope, my bad. That is a surprise then... A midfield squad consisting of Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Verratti and Marchisio would be amazing.
Nope
Yeah I had to correct myself above, I didn't realise Pirlo had been there for nearly 4 seasons alread.
Well we got Pogba around same time. Totally agree with bottled part though, took too much time.
and PSG know if they want Pogba then which player we want from them.
All these great reviews, how many people have actually watched him in the French Ligue? or in a game that wasn't against Chelsea
I've seen him in about 4 league games this season and he is just as consistent there as he is in the champs league.
So? Both fit in the same team. Pirlo was never gonna last forever. Beppe doesn't get much wrong but he certainly dropped the ball there.
Didn't he say that going to juve would be a step down?
Seconded, he has been great for most of the season, the guy is 22 and one of the best talents in the world, it would be extremely difficult to get him from PSG but we have to try, again though luring these players without CL for a second year will be extremely difficult
Well I already said that I agreed with the bottled part, we should have got him.
Nope, his exact quotes: