It's a dick-measuring contest of sorts I guess. And what actually happened in this thread?!
Marco Reus
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Are we starting a war over Reus? 
Jesus
He would something we really lack right now, a blisteringly fast world class attacker.
Err, just had to comment on this. I'm not German, but a little bit of history will help in this matter. There is a reason why Germany (and Japan) has a limited military after World war 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Final_Settlement_with_Respect_to_Germany
I know that. So?
Impossible to get him this year. Next year everyone will be in for him but we dont have the same pulling power as other clubs
That escalated quickly.
But can we please keep the discussion to football-relevant stuff, rather than the "my daddy is better than yours" crap with all the stuff on military power and global presence?
But can we please keep the discussion to football-relevant stuff, rather than the "my daddy is better than yours" crap with all the stuff on military power and global presence?
They thought they were going to sign Fabregas and Sanchez too.
Obviously once Chelsea and Arsenal came on board, they had no chance. They still think they can attract world class players when the reality is decades of mediocrity has left them a tier 2 or 3 club.
Sorry, tried to be polite about your ignorance.
1) It's not ignorance since I already knew about it.
2) Why is it of relevance. Just because X and Y treaties were signed allowing troops to be stationed there doesn't detract the fact that they are there.
As for limited military, Japan's surface fleet is double that of Britain's.
This.
Liverpool is geographically further north than Dortmund. It's a 'step up'.Disappointed in you.
If you knew why Germany has a limited military, then why have a rant about it on a public forum. People will respond to what you write because it's a public forum.
If these quotes are true, Seems to me Bayern are trying to rip off Dortmund again next summer for Reus.
Dortmund need to be smart about it this time. I doubt they will though.
I just wished he would shut the feck up. It's so fecking tedious.
Bayern ingratiating themselves to Dortmund yet again! We should help Klopp out and give him £40M for Reus this summer.
He is half chatty for a CEO, just as bad as Perez is for Madrid.
Would speak against every reliable source in the past, which all cited 35 Mil. € right from the start.
It doesn´t really matter if what Rummenigge says is the truth, the guy just hit a new low in my book and this was not an easy task. Announcing internal contract informations of players from other clubs to the press as a CEO is just disgraceful, plain and simple. Its hilarious that a club, which likes to see itself as the German role model football club has officials, which come around in nice regularity with statements that make them appear so unlikeable. Its nearly as if they enjoy turning every rival supporter and neutral against them.
I simply don´t understand, what he tries to accomplish with that. Bringing unrest into the Dortmund team? Is he still that scared of us after walking the league twice? I probably should be flattered that he still sees us as such a threat that he needs to resort such dirty tactics. Says a lot about their confidence in their own strength, though...
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Looks like Borussia Munich is at it again.
No, some tactics. You often remark that a time afterwards. I just do not know why. Does not have to do at all with Marco Reus - probably even has not. That talk makes me very sure that Reus is for sure not coming to Bayern next summer.
Because if the thing would be run totally quiet there would be more substance behind it.
It is more a Bayern-Dortmund thing...
I guess - no lunch for Bayern officials when we play in Dortmund...
How are we trying to rip Dortmund off if it's a buyout clause? Makes no sense.
I really wish he (Rummeniggle) would shut up already, coming out with comments like these does nothing good.
Actually, I seem to recall an old BILD article from quite a while ago, where the € 25M release clause was already mentioned, but at the time all the BVB fans insisted the information was false.
More importantly does anybody believe Rummenigge revealed exclusive information here? I bet all the DOF's in club football with enough money and pulling power already knew as much from Struth (the agent).
Some Bayern fans would prefer silence, but Rummenigge is not a moron. No matter his course of action, the reaction will be very critical if Bayern manages to sign Reus. However now we've got our clear signal for the player, that Bayern is very much interested in his services and being active early can potentially give you the edge during transfer negotiations.
More importantly does anybody believe Rummenigge revealed exclusive information here? I bet all the DOF's in club football with enough money and pulling power already knew as much from Struth (the agent).
Some Bayern fans would prefer silence, but Rummenigge is not a moron. No matter his course of action, the reaction will be very critical if Bayern manages to sign Reus. However now we've got our clear signal for the player, that Bayern is very much interested in his services and being active early can potentially give you the edge during transfer negotiations.
He'll more than likely leave next summer, the majority of top European clubs will be in for him. I've no idea if he'd favour a move to Bayern or not, but if he was to leave Dortmund for 'em the Bundesliga would almost become a joke.
If these statements are true, then it looks like Reus is destined for Bayern next year, or Rummenigge may be trying to scare Dortmund into selling him somewhere else this year to further weaken them. The last thing Dortmund would want is to lose Reus to Bayern next year.
I know tapping up happens all the time, but this sort of behavior is the sort of thing you associate with Real Madrid and Barcelona. Despicable.
Sign reus for £35m pound this year and let him remain a season at dortmund, sorted.
Michael Zorc to Kicker: „Unfortunately this has a whole new quality. It would be nice if Karl-Heinz Rummenigge could simply shut up.“
Why were people comparing the UK and German armies? I didn't realize I'd stumbled upon the comments of a youtube video.
btw UK is obviously bettah we have SAS m8 best in da world beat u 2 times
btw UK is obviously bettah we have SAS m8 best in da world beat u 2 times
The only problem is: why should the player agree to that?
Every club does that, so I wouldn't start throwing any stones about it. The real 'offence' here is that KHR leaked contract details of a rival club's player.
So what if everyone in the business knows. It's still not his place to comment on this stuff. And I don't think Bayern (or any club) need such measures to send signals to the player. They can simply make a phone call to his agent or just tell the media they think he's a good footballer.
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If and its a big if, he wants to join us anyway next year I dont think he will be against that. He gets an improved contract and gives one last year to dortmund. Am not sure how the fans would react but if the board puts a getting one over bayern spin on it and the transfer fee is good, I dont think they will boo him.
I'd say it looks like Reus again told us that he will go somewhere else and it's a petty and embarrassing reaction by Rummenigge now. If we really were in the pole position to sign him, we would treat him better and not force him to react to the rumours in public and put him under maximum pressure by causing problems with the fans in his last season. We kept our comments around the Neuer, Götze and Lewandowski transfers to a minimum before the deal was officially sealed. This is the exact opposite and it makes no sense to me. Whatever the reason is, it sucks, it's embarrassing and disrespectful and there isn't any excuse for it. It really needs to stop.
A statement from Watzke[roughly translated by me]:
Dortmund is annoyed/angry that Rummenigge is commenting on BVB club business in a three day rythm. They are sure that the true intentions behind his comments are obvious to any football interested person. Rummenigge's behaviour risks further damaging the relationship between both clubs further and they as an employer will keep to their principle of not disclosing contract details in public.
Not sure if it's sad or funny that the biggest two clubs in Germany manage to keep up this soap opera style drama for years now.
if you want to translate yourself:
Dortmund is annoyed/angry that Rummenigge is commenting on BVB club business in a three day rythm. They are sure that the true intentions behind his comments are obvious to any football interested person. Rummenigge's behaviour risks further damaging the relationship between both clubs further and they as an employer will keep to their principle of not disclosing contract details in public.
Not sure if it's sad or funny that the biggest two clubs in Germany manage to keep up this soap opera style drama for years now.
if you want to translate yourself:
„Borussia Dortmund registriert mit einer gewissen Verärgerung, dass sich Karl-Heinz Rummenigge über die Medien zurzeit im Drei-Tage-Rhythmus zu internen BVB-Angelegenheiten äußert. Wir sind sicher, dass für jeden Fußballinteressierten offensichtlich ist, welche Absicht hinter solchen Äußerungen steckt. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge nimmt durch sein Verhalten billigend in Kauf, dass das ohnehin angespannte Verhältnis zwischen Borussia Dortmund und dem FC Bayern München weiter beschädigt wird. Wir werden als Arbeitgeber selbstverständlich auch in Zukunft an unserer Linie festhalten und uns zu Vertragsdetails unserer Angestellten niemals in der Öffentlichkeit äußern.“
da fuq did I just read on last page related to economy and politics stuff? How it relates to Reus transfer? Some real mental people here.
Bayern are systematically and repetitively taking the absolute piss out of Dortmund who continue to imply a defiant and stout image when it comes to players leaving, they huff and they puff and in the end they get completely screwed over by their bigger, better rivals.
Its almost as if Bayern open up the the squad page on the Dortmund website and add whoever they want to their shopping basket. Gotze had his release clause triggered a harsh reality, you can guarantee that Dortmund tried to renegotiate his contract but once Bayern came knocking he was only ever going to one place. Then Lewandowski, jesus they must have tried but yet again money and prestige talk, no chance he was staying and if it wasnt Bayern it would have been us.
Despite what Reus says, its following the same pattern, play another season for Dortmund with the knowledge youll go for bigger money. The fans stay happy whilst the board and the manager huff and puff again for a season. Bayern swoop in, offer higher wages than his renewal, Reus stalls on contract talks, Dortmund manager and CEO claim they are confident he will sign, Reus says he is happy where he is (they always are) announcement comes through that Bayern have triggered the release clause. Dorntmund claim they had no choice to sell....
I like Dortmund, I really do, but they do this every time, strong words followed by weak actions.
Imagine City coming in every year, imagine they bought RVP off us last year then came in and got Januzaj this year.....
Its almost as if Bayern open up the the squad page on the Dortmund website and add whoever they want to their shopping basket. Gotze had his release clause triggered a harsh reality, you can guarantee that Dortmund tried to renegotiate his contract but once Bayern came knocking he was only ever going to one place. Then Lewandowski, jesus they must have tried but yet again money and prestige talk, no chance he was staying and if it wasnt Bayern it would have been us.
Despite what Reus says, its following the same pattern, play another season for Dortmund with the knowledge youll go for bigger money. The fans stay happy whilst the board and the manager huff and puff again for a season. Bayern swoop in, offer higher wages than his renewal, Reus stalls on contract talks, Dortmund manager and CEO claim they are confident he will sign, Reus says he is happy where he is (they always are) announcement comes through that Bayern have triggered the release clause. Dorntmund claim they had no choice to sell....
I like Dortmund, I really do, but they do this every time, strong words followed by weak actions.
Imagine City coming in every year, imagine they bought RVP off us last year then came in and got Januzaj this year.....
Jesus what they hell are you spouting in a Manchester United forum mate? Pipe down! or if provoked walk away. Take it somewhere else.
The nature of a release clause is that you can't prevent someone from leaving if its price is met, it's the same when a contract runs down.
So losing Götze, Lewandowski and Reus is/was not an action, because Dortmund never agreed to sell them.
And your comparison isn't that great because City is nowhere near Bayern's level.
I am not sure if there is much thought behind their frequent comments. Sometimes I have the feeling, that Rummenigge (and Hoeneß in the past) are just spotlight-seeking attention whores. They just cant help themselves if they talk to a journalist. They also talked about Lewandowski quite a bit. To the extend, that Mandzukic and Gomez got pissed off.
Soon they´ll give an interview, where they say, that they want a better relation with dortmund and that they are surprised, that Watzke/Zorc are pissed. I really thought that things might change, with Hoeneß in jail. Sadly Rummenigge has different plans.
The are what? Come on guys. Everybody here should know the facts. They get asked about Reus any day of the week.
Kalle used that one interview to show that we are in talks with Reus. Other big clubs should stay off and so on. Its all normal days work.
Anyone who could buy Reus can ask his agent for the price. He didnt reveal anything there.
And Dortmundfans talk about respect but nothing when their guy says things like "he should shut up".
Yeah, like Klopp, who didnt insult one of the best football minds in Sammer. We pay him for fun and he can thank the lord, that he works with Bayern.
Funny....or not.
Its like the thing with Invictus here, where Bayern arent in the same league with United around the world and so on(they are). Why cant there be more fun and less dumb talk.
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Yeah I see what you are saying but to the general football fan its simple. Bayern are better than Dortmund, Bayern buys all of Dortmunds best players.
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