Marco Reus

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I have little doubt they will. If a German player has the choice of staying in Germany for similar wages then they will choose to, even if all the Premier league clubs offered a little higher.
 
herokiller84 said:
80 million we should take him and Gundogan.

my muppet fantasy.
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Isn't Gundogan a bit of a fatty at the moment? Its pretty touch and go whether he'll ever play football at that level ever again from what I've heard too.
 
Eriksen said:
Isn't Gundogan a bit of a fatty at the moment? Its pretty touch and go whether he'll ever play football at that level ever again from what I've heard too.
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Saw those pics to mate,but writing him off is a bit premature.

He has a back problem i think,but is he not back training?

Anyway if he gets back to 3 quarters the level he was at hed still be a great acquisition.
 
herokiller84 said:
Saw those pics to mate,but writing him off is a bit premature.

He has a back problem i think,but is he not back training?

Anyway if he gets back to 3 quarters the level he was at hed still be a great acquisition.
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It'd still be pretty risky signing him now, he looks woefully out of shape. He has a beer belly and everything. Would a club like United really sign a player in that condition?

Back to training but from what I hear pretty far away from match shape. Then again at his best he was one of the best midfielders in Europe so as you say, might be worth a pop.
 
Gundogan and Vidal were my muppet answer to getting us back to something like our Keane and Scholes glory days in midfield, but right now Gundogan has a long road ahead just to get back playing at all sadly. As for Reus, I reiterate that we should go big for him now instead of waiting for the summer rush.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
Yeah that's my point, I don't see how it would be worthwhile for both parties if he moved to Spain. Meanwhile he'd be a crown jewel for any of the top PL clubs if they signed him.

I wonder if Bayern will spoil the party...
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With both Ribery and Robben ageing, I wouldn't be surprised if Reus ends up at Bayern. Will be gut-wrenching for Dortmund though.
 
Joga Bonito said:
With both Ribery and Robben ageing, I wouldn't be surprised if Reus ends up at Bayern. Will be gut-wrenching for Dortmund though.
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I expect Bayern will try to get in one of Reus or Draxler in to replace Ribery.
 
NMF said:
I eixpect Bayern will try to get in one of Reus or Draxler in to replace Ribery.
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I feel Bayern is definitely going after Reus, even if Draxler finally manages to stabilize his performances on a very high level. Meyer and Werner are certainly also in the mix, but Reus seems like the perfect immediate heir to Franck Ribery with little risk involved.

When you look at the current market evaluations it becomes clear that 35M for Reus is a huge bargain. It would be also a powerful response to Real and Barca on the transfer market.
 
I guess if we were to get him he would have to play as a striker in LVG's 3-5-2 (as Robben did at the WC) or we would change to a 4-3-3. Both would mean definitely benching one of RVP or Rooney.
 
herokiller84 said:
Saw those pics to mate,but writing him off is a bit premature.

He has a back problem i think,but is he not back training?

Anyway if he gets back to 3 quarters the level he was at hed still be a great acquisition.
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If he's going to get over his injury he'll need to do a lot of back training.
hehe
 
He turned down Bayern before didn't he? Let's hope he does again out of loyalty to Dortmund, and if so I think we'd have a real chance of signing him. Hopefully we'll be in the champions league next season and if so I think we'd only compete with the premier league clubs, given how stacked Barca and Madrid are.
 
bosnian_red said:
He turned down Bayern before didn't he? Let's hope he does again out of loyalty to Dortmund, and if so I think we'd have a real chance of signing him. Hopefully we'll be in the champions league next season and if so I think we'd only compete with the premier league clubs, given how stacked Barca and Madrid are.
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There were fake quotes going around a few months ago, I don't think he ever turned down Bayern yet.
 
Anduin said:
There were fake quotes going around a few months ago, I don't think he ever turned down Bayern yet.
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I know that but I mean at the time he was joining Dortmund he turned down Bayern, for first team football and because he was a Dortmund youngster.
 
Reus would probably have to terminate his sponsorship with Puma if he were to join Bayern, though I don't know if the Puma-Adidas rivalry is such a big deal. (German fan here would tell you in better detail)
 
Well Barca simply cannot sign him can they, so you can rule them out. No way you replace one of Neymar, Suarez or Messi in those attacking positions surely.

Madrid really can't either but it's Madrid. If Rodriguez has a poor season (or even just a decent one) and they finish 2nd-3rd then they'll probably get him to get the fans excited. They might do anyway just for the feck of it and if they want him, they'll get him.

Past that the only options I can see are Bayern, City and maybe United if you are in the CL next season. Don't think he'd be interested in PSG/Monaco at all. You have the likes of Arsenal who will be interested I'm sure but will never get him.

I don't know how he'd feel joining City but it'd be different to PSG as at least they play in a top league. If he was to join them it'd be pretty frightening.
 
Winrar said:
Reus would probably have to terminate his sponsorship with Puma if he were to join Bayern, though I don't know if the Puma-Adidas rivalry is such a big deal. (German fan here would tell you in better detail)
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I don't think that would have a bearing on a transfer what so ever. Alexis is an Addidas sponsored player yet plays for Puma endorsed Arsenal.
 
Winrar said:
Reus would probably have to terminate his sponsorship with Puma if he were to join Bayern, though I don't know if the Puma-Adidas rivalry is such a big deal. (German fan here would tell you in better detail)
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Gomez moved to Bayern while he was the Puma posterboy. I don't think Bayern or Adidas would care, but I could see Puma offering Reus a lot more money to stay at Dortmund, especially if Puma really buys shares of the club and becomes an investor similar to Adidas at Bayern.
 
bosnian_red said:
He turned down Bayern before didn't he? Let's hope he does again out of loyalty to Dortmund, and if so I think we'd have a real chance of signing him. Hopefully we'll be in the champions league next season and if so I think we'd only compete with the premier league clubs, given how stacked Barca and Madrid are.
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He wants to win trophies, going by some of the quotes he's given. He can win trophies at Bayern. Him joining them is not out of the question. As for him signing for United, just being in the CL next season won't be enough. A serious title challenge at least is needed. If he thinks he stands a better chance of winning trophies with City/Chelsea/whoever, that's the club he'll choose.
 
Balu said:
Gomez moved to Bayern while he was the Puma posterboy. I don't think Bayern or Adidas would care, but I could see Puma offering Reus a lot more money to stay at Dortmund, especially if Puma really buys shares of the club and becomes an investor similar to Adidas at Bayern.
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Messi is sponsored by Adidas while Barcelona is sponsored by Nike.

Edit: was meant to reply to Winrar, no idea why I quoted your post Balu.
 
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And Ronaldo is sponsored by Nike while Real are sponsored by Adidas.
 
Bazi said:
I feel Bayern is definitely going after Reus, even if Draxler finally manages to stabilize his performances on a very high level. Meyer and Werner are certainly also in the mix, but Reus seems like the perfect immediate heir to Franck Ribery with little risk involved.

When you look at the current market evaluations it becomes clear that 35M for Reus is a huge bargain. It would be also a powerful response to Real and Barca on the transfer market.
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Agree. He has turned them down once but that's when Dortmund were the dominant team in Germany, it will be interesting to see who he chooses given his relatively cheap buy-out clause I'd imagine every top European club is going to be in for him.
 
Itl be Bayern if Reus feels he can do that to Dortmund. Barca and madrid simply cannot fit him in without selling a superior player or somebody of the same quality.

I genuinely think its going to be the "Battle of Britain" between City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal. Next year is like an Audition for Reus, in terms of which club will look to be in the best place for his prime years.

If Arsenal have a year where they win silverware/challenge or win the league i can see the German influence of Ozil and mertersaker in addition to London being a huge draw.
Chelsea to work with mourinho, London factor, challenge in europe. high wages
If City win the league/dominate domestic silverware + have a better crack in Europe, i can see them being a possibility with top end wages.

and united... We have the history and the Big club factor. One of the best stadiums in the world to play in. The highest wages out of the lot. And an Iconic shirt in the waiting (7 or 11). The most important thing for us is top 3 being ideal, top 4 certainty. This year is so important to show the world that last year was a blip. and the balance of power isn't shifting.
 
If Götze is to believed we might have an edge on other clubs if we get back to our best. That said Bayern will most likely do anything to sign him, but if he can find an equal offer from somone else It seems likely based on what he's said that he'd turn them down out of respect for Dortmund. Real and Barca are unlikely to go after him, i doubt he'd join a french team so if he leaves England is probably the most likely destination.
 
I feel bad for him. He is already up there with any offensive player bar Ronaldo and Messi at their best.
He gets big attention but a WC win and a big role in that would have been well deserved. He was the superstar of the last Bundesliga season. More scorers then games in CL,Bundesliga and cup.
And he is 25 next season!! He is a world beater already.
Even as a Bayernguy I want to see him in Dortmund. To push the league. But if he comes to us he stays in Germany. And that is better then leaving for German football.
Really interesting what he will do IF he plays a great season(which he should). He loves Dortmund and I want to think that he is interested in pushing the Bundesliga.
 
Eriksen said:
It'd still be pretty risky signing him now, he looks woefully out of shape. He has a beer belly and everything. Would a club like United really sign a player in that condition?

Back to training but from what I hear pretty far away from match shape. Then again at his best he was one of the best midfielders in Europe so as you say, might be worth a pop.
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With our new emphasis on fitness,louis will have him whipped into shape quickly nevermind Dortmund an d Klopp taking all the proper precautions with him.

The problem with a back injury is core work ,hence his belly,that will go in no time with a professional athlete.

Getting the calibre of someone like Gundogan will afford the manager more choices in terms of system changes,bolster numbers in terms of quality but more importantly add an element of surprise as teams wont know what theyre coming up against tactically wise untill they see our team sheet.

He would be worth more than a punt in my eyes,but he and/or reus would make my year.
 
Offer him Rooney's deal and maybe he'd come here.

I see him going to Bayern for sure. Unless someone offers him a good 50% premium in wages compared.
 
herokiller84 said:
With our new emphasis on fitness,louis will have him whipped into shape quickly nevermind Dortmund an d Klopp taking all the proper precautions with him.

The problem with a back injury is core work ,hence his belly,that will go in no time with a professional athlete.

Getting the calibre of someone like Gundogan will afford the manager more choices in terms of system changes,bolster numbers in terms of quality but more importantly add an element of surprise as teams wont know what theyre coming up against tactically wise untill they see our team sheet.

He would be worth more than a punt in my eyes,but he and/or reus would make my year.
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Depends how much that punt is. If they ask for 25m+ (and they very likely will) that's a ton of money to spend on an injured, extremely unfit player. Even with Van Gaal's emphasis on fitness, a player that badly out of shape is going to take a while to get really match fit and ready for the top level and that's without taking in to account his back issues which threatened to end his career.

He's been out of football for ages - who knows when he'll get back in to the swing of things.
 
herokiller84 said:
With our new emphasis on fitness,louis will have him whipped into shape quickly nevermind Dortmund an d Klopp taking all the proper precautions with him.

The problem with a back injury is core work ,hence his belly,that will go in no time with a professional athlete.

Getting the calibre of someone like Gundogan will afford the manager more choices in terms of system changes,bolster numbers in terms of quality but more importantly add an element of surprise as teams wont know what theyre coming up against tactically wise untill they see our team sheet.

He would be worth more than a punt in my eyes,but he and/or reus would make my year.
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Have you not seen the recent tweet pics of him?

He's so out of shape its unreal. He cant train with his back problems - which arent new, but the main debate is - will he be able to play again because of his bad back?! Its unfortunately that serious mate!

It would be madness to sign a player with those issues.
 
I guess we're going to get some interesting news about Marco Reus in tomorrow's issue of "kicker", where he talks about his disappointing summer, the next season at Dortmund and the possibility of a move to Bayern München.
 
I'm not convinced he'll even leave. I'd make Arsenal and Bayern favourites to get him if he did though.
 
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BarneyLFC said:
I'm not convinced he'll even leave. I'd make Arsenal and Barcelona favourites to get him if he did though.
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Why on earth would he go from Dortmund to Arsenal? Step down.


EDIT: Just saw you meant Bayern which is fair enough, I also reckon they'd prob be favorites.
 
BarneyLFC said:
Meant Bayern, sorry.
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I agree with Bayern. I actually think there's a small window of opportunity to nab him this summer because of the buyout clause. Offer Dortmund €50m so they profit 15m more than this summer and it also prevents Bayern just paying the clause next summer and leaving them helpless like with Gotze.
 
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