Agreed. Maybe that's the reason why Madrid have been coming up short in the Champions League for over a decade now. They have been a group of star individuals rather than a team for quite a while now. Even Casillas said recently that part of Real Madrid left with Del Bosque in 2003. Since then, Madrid have had eleven different managers with only Mourinho sticking for more than a season, which speaks volumes. Constant manager changes along with always signing players they don't really need, have been Madrid's major problems in my opinion. Yes, in modern football clubs like Madrid always expect instant success because they are used to it. They sign major names every summer and expect their managers to bring immediate success but sacking a manager after one relatively poor season is not always the best decision. I can't really see Madrid giving time to someone like Klopp to create his own team and style and bear the fruits in the long term. Moyes would not have lasted half a year there.
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Agreed. Maybe that's the reason why Madrid have been coming up short in the Champions League for over a decade now. They have been a group of star individuals rather than a team for quite a while now. Even Casillas said recently that part of Real Madrid left with Del Bosque in 2003. Since then, Madrid have had eleven different managers with only Mourinho sticking for more than a season, which speaks volumes. Constant manager changes along with always signing players they don't really need, have been Madrid's major problems in my opinion. Yes, in modern football clubs like Madrid always expect instant success because they are used to it. They sign major names every summer and expect their managers to bring immediate success but sacking a manager after one relatively poor season is not always the best decision. I can't really see Madrid giving time to someone like Klopp to create his own team and style and bear the fruits in the long term. Moyes would not have lasted half a year there.
Yeah, their problem is probably Perez. I don't think single one of the players they brought in the summer was Ancelotti's wish, but instead Perez signed them because he thought they are stars, without even watching them.
They were missing one or two players last night, and I heard commentator raving like they were missing their entire team. Of course Ronaldo is important, but to have 3-0 from first leg and almost bottle it it's just ridiculous. They've paid around €40m for Illaramendi and he looks completely average(those who are critisiseing Cleverley should see few games of that €40m player and think again)and yet he starts ahead of Isco(who also doesn't look half of the player he was at Malaga) for who they paid around the same mount. They spend so much money year after year and their two central defenders are still Ramos and Pepe(costing them in pretty much every big game), they have no other option in attack to replace Benzema(only Morata who is still far from first team quality), and if they are missing one player in midfield they look lost(as last night proved).
Was in the centre of everything yesterday. Such an intelligent player, very good decision making. In these few Dortmund games I’ve seen recently he seems to play more centrally then I expected. Not even close to what we call a “winger”. If we did get him he would be fantastic in a Kagawa’s role IMO. It won’t happen but one can dream.
I would take him over Bale because he’s the kind of player that improves every team, while Gareth requires a lot of effort from players around the team, if you catch my drift. Works for Real Madrid as they are miles ahead of other teams in La Liga, but not always so effective against top teams.
That’s Madrid problem- too often they set up so that the star players can shine.
I would take him over Bale because he’s the kind of player that improves every team, while Gareth requires a lot of effort from players around the team, if you catch my drift. Works for Real Madrid as they are miles ahead of other teams in La Liga, but not always so effective against top teams.
That’s Madrid problem- too often they set up so that the star players can shine.
i agree with this post. Especially with the bold part. He is one of the best counterattacking players in the world, but has problems when he is forced into another role. He is not the best player to break down catenaccio.
If we're gonna try to lure someone for 60 million pounds I'd like it to be him.
I agree with some of your points but Isco is quality and even on his time on the pitch he showed his intelligence. Modric was very good too he won the ball back and was confident in terms of distribution and in tight spaces. If Benzema had his shooting boots on they could have had 2 themselves, Bale too. Like last year they couldn't cope with Dortmund's pressing and pace on the break.
If Mkhitaryan scored one of his chances I could have seen Dortmund getting a 4th. Di Maria had a poor game but if he scored his penalty it would have been game done. They haven't had one big game like that that this season. Were they were played off the the park other than the first Classico.
We will see what they are about in the semi's but your taking a little too much from this game IMO.
I agree a lot with what you are saying, but Illarimendi is talented and he may need time like most midfielders do. Look at cesc at barca, he took a year to establish himself. Illarimendi has the talent, but the question is does he have the character to impose himself I feel. I also feel that isco will come good too. He was very good in the first leg
I agree on Modric but I don't think Isco was great at all. Most of their players had a poor gamr though, which was my point. Only Modric, Carvajal, Coentrao and Casillas deserved some praise after last night, the rest was poor IMO.
I agree on the game itself, they were poor but still they could have scored two or three, but I think that was more down to Dortmund's poor/lack of defending.
I watched Illaramendi last summer in that u21 world cup(or was it euro?) and I thought he was great, but still paying that much for him is obviously too much. I don't think he'll ever be top class player, because he seems quite limited, he is happy to play simple passes all the time, I don't think he is that great defensively, and I am not sure he fits your system either(or at least not with Xabi there), so buying him wasn't the best you could do. He is still young though, and has time, but so far it doesn't look like he is the player you can rely on to be even your first choice-backup.
With Isco you have another problem because he is best wide left, and he obviously can't play there with Ronaldo on the pitch, so that leaves him with no place in your starting XI. I thought he was great buy at first(I still think he is worth the money though, and that he is excellent player), but in your set-up, I don't see him fullfiling his potential unfortunately.
I feel if both are given time they can both find their place in the club and team, especially isco. I was more excited about him than bale. I agree they weren't worth the money, but nobody is worth what is paid for them these days tbh. The only way I see them not working is if perez signs a new flavour of the month in the same position as them o he decides to sell them for money so he can buy whatever player is cool at the moment. Under Mourinho that didn't happen as he was strong enough to demand that he controlled transfers. Hopefully ancelloti will do that to, he should get more power if he wins a tophy
Reus Rules Out Manchester United Move
Borussia Dortmund star Marco Reus has dismissed a potential summer move to Manchester United insisting he will be at the German club next season.
Reus has long been linked with a switch to Old Trafford and fuelled speculation last week by failing to commit his future to Dortmund.
The German international has now put the rumours to bed, however, suggesting he could see out his current contract that runs until 2017, the Metro reports.
“I can definitely say that I will play for Dortmund next season. I don’t have to keep stressing how well I feel here,” he said.
“After playing 10 years in the youth here I had to go a step back via Ahlen and Mönchengladbach to make two steps forward.
“Now I am back in Dortmund and – again – I feel totally well here and have a contract until 2017.”
Dortmund’s season has largely been regarded as somewhat of a disappointment as they failed to push Bayern Munich at all during the Bundesliga campaign.
They have a chance to finish the season on a high as they take on Bayern in DFB-Pokal cup final this weekend.
From 30 Bundesliga appearances this season Reus has 16 goals, two more than last year, adding a further five in the Champions League and two in the season opening Super Cup.
Borussia Dortmund star Marco Reus has dismissed a potential summer move to Manchester United insisting he will be at the German club next season.
Reus has long been linked with a switch to Old Trafford and fuelled speculation last week by failing to commit his future to Dortmund.
The German international has now put the rumours to bed, however, suggesting he could see out his current contract that runs until 2017, the Metro reports.
“I can definitely say that I will play for Dortmund next season. I don’t have to keep stressing how well I feel here,” he said.
“After playing 10 years in the youth here I had to go a step back via Ahlen and Mönchengladbach to make two steps forward.
“Now I am back in Dortmund and – again – I feel totally well here and have a contract until 2017.”
Dortmund’s season has largely been regarded as somewhat of a disappointment as they failed to push Bayern Munich at all during the Bundesliga campaign.
They have a chance to finish the season on a high as they take on Bayern in DFB-Pokal cup final this weekend.
From 30 Bundesliga appearances this season Reus has 16 goals, two more than last year, adding a further five in the Champions League and two in the season opening Super Cup.
Injured again
Suspected torn ankle ligaments
Suspected torn ankle ligaments
Man he's had some rough luck recently.
And Dortmund fans thought throwing a 2-0 lead away yesterday was enough bad news... Strewth. I hope this run of injuries doesn't impact him too much.
marco reus just got fined an amusingly hefty fee of €540k for repeatedly (as in: deliberately) driving a car without actually having a goddamn driver's licence in the first place. he had already been fined 4 or 5 times for traffic violations before, but this remarkable fact has seemingly just been found out. wtf. also: what an idiot. this is just...nope.
the manager of his former club mönchengladbach, max eberl, stated that the club were aware of this fact. hu?
the manager of his former club mönchengladbach, max eberl, stated that the club were aware of this fact. hu?
The thing I can't get over is that he apparently got speeding tickets in the past without anyone noticing that he didn't have a licence. I guess there's no "penalty points" system or online checks.
But really, what was he thinking? Even by footballer standards it's weird and it's not as if he's a kid.
Sounds a bit of a retard.
Strange that his transfer thread got closed since it's the biggest thing going on in his career right now. If he goes to Real as rumoured then someone is getting Bale or Isco.
Man City I'd say....an Aguerro Bale swap could be on the cards possibly
When he goes to Madrid we are odds on to get bale Imo
Wouldn't Isco be more likely? Pellegrini is very interested in him of course, being his past manager and such. They've also been linked in some papers to similar versatile players who can play across the front three behind the striker in KDB and and Koke.
Half a bleedin' million euros for driving without a licence? Bloody hell. What do they give you in Germany for shoplifting. Life?
No. But driving without a licence can cost you up to a year prison. Or a fine that depends on day rates of your wage. He came of lightly with only 90 days. He was not only caught once - but there were 5 speeding tickets in the last 3 years as a prove that he drove without licence. And he never made one and drove since 6 or 7 years every day and owned e.g. an Austin Martin Vanquish and a Range Rover.
The thing is that he was caught March 18th - but there is a newspaper article from June 3rd, some days before he flew to Brasil when he visited a restaurant with Götze, that shows him driving...
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He picked up 5 speeding tickets and they didn't twig that he didn't have a licence? Blimey. The last time I was pulled up for speeding the first thing the copper wanted to see was my licence and then proof of insurance.
Are fines in Germany, across the board, linked to wages? For example, if a rich person did get caught shoplifting, would their fine be exponentially larger than that imposed on a poor person?
A classic case of too much money, not enough sense.
Was there not another player that couldn't be arsed going back to the airport to pick his car up from the car park or something similarly ridiculous?
Was there not another player that couldn't be arsed going back to the airport to pick his car up from the car park or something similarly ridiculous?
Reminds me of the story from the 80s about a rich Saudi who came to the UK for a business trip. To get around, he purchased a Rolls Royce and hired a chauffeur. The Saudi went home and at the airport, he handed the chauffeur the keys to the car as a tip.
Why would Real sell Bale or Isco if they buy Reus for only £20Mil??? Its got nothing to do with shinny new toys or what ever, the only way a player would leave is if they wanted out or they wanted to cash-in ala Di Maria or Alonso. I don't see anyone wanting to move and either Real wanting to sell, especially not the manager.
Kroos.........Khedira?
Modric..............Asier
Bale...............James..............Reus
....?....................Isco..............Jesse
Ronaldo
Benzema
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If there's a player who will leave then its probably Khedira so they can buy Pogba, I don't see it any other way. Real are a team with the greatest ambition to be the most successful club in history of the game, there is no way they will lose Bale. Looking at that team they would have WC/TQ back up for all forward and midfield positions and more than likely try find some left footed Winger to cover Bale not sell him.Modric..............Asier
Bale...............James..............Reus
....?....................Isco..............Jesse
Ronaldo
Benzema
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He was not picked out by the police but caught by a machine. And as long it is no speeding that is so extensive that it can cause a loss of the driving license the system does not seem to crosscheck if somebody has a driving license or not. It probably is different administrations and systems (like city, region, country) that are responsible. At the control in March he was picked out by the police - and they wanted to see the license. And he showed them a false dutch license...
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Fines in Germany...
The minor speeding tickets or false parking, using smart phones during driving etc. have fixed fines - some combined with points in "Flensburg". (In the town Flensburg there is the nationwide database of traffic violators - if you excess a special amount of points in a time frame you have to do special trainings or a psychological examination - or they take your driving license away). To get a driving license in Germany you have to do in average 30 hours with a driving teacher and 14 double-hours of theoretical training in a class. You have to do exams for that, too. All in all costs you about 1600 EUR (can be more or less depending in which region of Germany you live and how good you are - and if you pass your exams first time. More than 30 % failure rate).
Shoplifting - it is up to the judge what he does and often depends on the case. Social duty hours, fines (that depend on your income), prison sentences - rising when somebody has multiple offenses.
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They want Aguaro and Hazzard as well dont they? If you believe the paper talk that is (which is believable considering Real Madrids transfer policy cant be viewed using general logic). Reus, Hazzard and Aguaro would be quite the summer.
Wouldnt be stunned if they sell Modric as well. There's going to be a time where they want a shiny new toy in Modrics position, no matter how great he is.
I am pretty sure that about every club has Reus on the list as that 25 million EUR clause for such a player is a bargain - even if you are not really in the biggest need for a player like him.
Thanks for the info Blackwidow. I've actually been to Flensburg, though it was a long time ago.
So Perez just came out and said Bale wasn't going anywhere and with Barcelona's transfer ban I reckon we've a high chance of signing him (If we're interested). At £25 million buyout clause we'd have a lot of money left for fixing our defense too.
Forgive my stupidity but, if Reus is a world class forward as people say, why are Dortmund in danger of being relegated?
Been injured and out most of the season.
We're still a long way behind the queue. Chelsea, Bayern, City and even perhaps Arsenal are ahead of us.
He'll fit right in.
Still think Madrid or Bayern stand the best chance. If for some reason he doesn't fancy them then we'll be scrapping it out with Chelsea, City, PSG etc.
True.Don't think he'd pull a Lewandowski or Götze and betray those supporters. Especially after the season they're having. Imagine he goes to Bayern and they also lose Klopp this year as well.
Think he does end up in England. City is my bet, unfortunately.
Sadly true. They have always had a good few German players in their squads and still do, so that really puts them ahead of us.
Don't think he'd pull a Lewandowski or Götze and betray those supporters. Especially after the season they're having. Imagine he goes to Bayern and they also lose Klopp this year as well.
Think he does end up in England. City is my bet, unfortunately.
Isn't he a Dortmund fan? Or at least came up through their academy? Not that it makes much difference i suppose. Bayern could still turn his head with 3 or 4 times his current salary.
He'd be mad to go to Madrid with Ronaldo, Bale, Isco and James there. No clue which he'll choose though, always thought he was nailed on for Barca for ages but then this ban came along.