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Marc Cucurella - World Class Hairdo
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Isnt he short like a midget? Will defo help defending corners
The last we heard United are hoping Shaw will be back around November and I haven't seen any date mentioned for Malacia's return. There's no guarantee it will be "in a few weeks" rather than "in a few months".
That's quite a while to be depending on Dalot (who many would argue isn't good enough even in his natural position, let alone LB), Fernandez (who might well be absolutely nowhere near good enough) and AWB (who even if he keeps up his relatively good form will now have to play pretty much every game) as fullbacks if you can fairly easily cover yourself with a loan deal instead.
He’d be a really good short term signing. if he can find his best form again no doubt he’s a good player. Chelsea massively overpaid on him, not his fault just Brighton being well run, Chelsea not so much.
Is this a joke 
Jesus Christ.. 5 more days till this madness is over.
I very much hope it is. Don't think would be able to stomach that sight.Is this a joke
Welcome a loan deal to deal with Shaw and Malaccia injury. Even with an option to buy isn't that bad, considering Malaccia hasn't been great and with Shaw moving to CB. Great for both clubs.
So in 4-5 weeks when both Shaw and Malacia are fit we’re left with 3 left backs?
Theres an international break coming up the need for a lb is ridiculous just use Dalot/Fernandez
Theres an international break coming up the need for a lb is ridiculous just use Dalot/Fernandez
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On the athletic now
Being fit to return is different from being match fit and maybe they don’t want to stunt Fernandez’s development plan by keeping him on the bench when Ten Hag doesn’t trust him enough.
Latest report I saw from The Athletic was that United are concerned Shaw could be out for three months. We don't know when Malacia will be back. And when they are back, there's no guarantee we won't have to ease them back after long lay-offs, or that they won't need time to build up match fitness again. So you can stretch your 4-5 week timeframe out by quite a bit.
Ten Hag said pre Forest that Malacia was a few weeks away from being considered. Two weeks of that is an international break. Truth is only those inside the club actually know the prognosis. If we really are looking at November for both then maybe it’s best to get a loan, although we should have just kept Williams till January in that case.
There's also a question of quality. If the club think Cucurella can play at the level he showed at Brighton that had City and Chelsea bidding for him last summer (big if), then he's easily a better LB than any of our other options bar Shaw.
Of course he might not be that good, he might be every bit as awful as he was last season at Chelsea, but there's a lot more potential upside in bringing him in on loan than there is keeping the likes of Williams around.
He will be a good addition. I think he will do better than Malacia, although by now he has been accustomed to not playing well over given his form last season. He will perform well in some matches, and flail in others. He won't be an embarrassment.
Why? Cucurella is far better than Williams? He’s also currently far better than a young player who needs to be playing regularly to develop and had Robbie Brady ahead of him at times last season.
We know that ETH has got his fullbacks to come inside now, more often than not. So, what's Cucurella like centrally ?
How bad is Shaw’s injury to warrant such a move? And how bad is Malacia’s? 
Sounds like Chelsea would be open to it per Athletic:
"United and Chelsea have held informal talks and Chelsea would consider a potential loan move, though the 25-year-old could still stay at the club beyond the UK transfer window closing on Friday."
"United and Chelsea have held informal talks and Chelsea would consider a potential loan move, though the 25-year-old could still stay at the club beyond the UK transfer window closing on Friday."
Worth reading through the thread on here about him from just last summer to see what the general consensus was on him.
The player posters are describing in that thread is one we should be absolutely jumping at the chance to bring in.
The question is to what degree you believe that a) he was overrated at that point and found out at Chelsea or b) he's now underrated off the back of a nightmare season at a club that generally had a nightmare season.
If it was a transfer I'd be extremely wary but as a loan move it would seem to me there's enough potential upside for it to be worth a shot.
The player posters are describing in that thread is one we should be absolutely jumping at the chance to bring in.
The question is to what degree you believe that a) he was overrated at that point and found out at Chelsea or b) he's now underrated off the back of a nightmare season at a club that generally had a nightmare season.
If it was a transfer I'd be extremely wary but as a loan move it would seem to me there's enough potential upside for it to be worth a shot.
Time to get excited.
Wonder if we'd want an option and what Chelsea would expect... £30m?
Not sure about him inverting into midfield, but he was used as a LCB in a back three at both Brighton and Chelsea at times.
Why are people getting wound up over a loan
If we sign Cucurella then ETH may be looking at using Shaw as a centre back more often.
I'd imagine it would be loan with the option to buy.
I'd imagine it would be loan with the option to buy.
This is a loan right? Right??
Maybe it depends how he does,if we see the Chelsea one he's going back,however IF Erik can find the Brighton version then maybe there's a consideration to be made
Because Dalot would do a better job.Why are people getting wound up over a loan
If we "just play Dalot" it means AWB and him will basically have to play every game until Shaw is back, which could be a couple of months. An injury to either (more likely if they're playing every game) of them will leave us very short of options.
Fernández is completely untested at the top level, and clearly not ready, considering the plan was for another loan move this season, until the injuries happen.
Yeah, so is this happening? Haven't followed
I remember watching some Chelsea games early last season and wondering what his position was. Some games he seemed to range all over the pitch. It was like watching Januzaj doing his headless chicken bit. Great work rate but to questionable use.
Can be quite easily trained out of him. Have to remember he was a beast for Brighton as much as he was a calamity for Chelsea.
I hope this link is a joke.
Oh ok the last report I read was Shaw was out for weeks rather than months but maybe there's been an update I'm a bit out of the loop this weekend I've been busy
You are judging him on Chelsea version
He seems very stupid. Do not want.