Manutd ideal buys

Originally posted by Tomo:
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back in 1998, everyone wanted to sign the likes of Batistuta, but SAF went for Yorke...


and the rest was history</strong><hr></blockquote>

we wanted Batistuta but we didnt want to break our wage structure for him
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Originally posted by Dans:
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Then play a youngster instead.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I dont mind that option!

I'm not saying sign, sign, sign in terms of Christiansen, I'm just putting forward the possibility and pointing out that he wouldn't mind sitting on the bench, would cost hardly nothing, is experienced, and is capable of scoring 21 goals a season (28 games) in the Bundesliga when playing in a shite team - so shite in fact that they were expected to be relegated at the start of the season. He's the one that's kept them up, got them into 9th place by scoring basically half of all their goals.

I quite admire a player that once had everything at his feet as a kid, and through adversity lost the lot, yet still had the character not to give in, but to fight through it all and climb all the way back up to the top.
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I know you're putting him forward for that reason, but putting him forward to whom? The transfer forum that's who. Great. Let's all go Championship Manager extreme. It's not worth debating because he will be bought. Go on about him being a talent for a team like Wolves perhaps but don't harp on about him being suitable for us because it won't happen.
 
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>I know you're putting him forward for that reason, but putting him forward to whom? The transfer forum that's who. Great. Let's all go Championship Manager extreme. It's not worth debating because he will be bought. Go on about him being a talent for a team like Wolves perhaps but don't harp on about him being suitable for us because it won't happen.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Because it makes a change to the constant Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Shevchenko, Vieri, Recoba, Henry, Owen, Kewell, Cisse, Makaay, Tristan, Kluivert, Aimar, Torres, Baraja, Vieira, Makalele, Nedved, Davids, Van Dervarrt, Robinho, D'allesandro, Nesta, Cafu, Rustu, Robinson, etc. stuff we normally get. <img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" />
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
<strong>ronny is close to a done deal according to anny rd on YAWN</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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i know hes a scouser but hes right on everything he says tbh
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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i know hes a scouser but hes right on everything he says tbh</strong><hr></blockquote>

What else has the oracle said in the past?
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Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>But what I am searching in a keeper at OT is not the reflexes (Barthez is a world class on that) but the dominance and charisma that he emits. </strong><hr></blockquote>Let us know how you get on with that one.
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Originally posted by devilish:
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You wanted to know about Cantona’s ability to create chances out of nothing and I had answered you by telling you to watch the Charity Shield game against Newcastle a few years ago (sorry don’t know the exact date because Im bad on that)

Yes Cantona was the driving force behind the double double team. His class and creativity was the major force why we won the double double with a bunch of promising kids. I don’t know why you are laughing, after all this phrase was repeated by half of the Fergie babes include Scholes and Beckham

Now returning on Sheringham and Yorke

Yorke had the class and the positioning of a real link man. His technique permitted him to stay deep while his vision and positioning made him able to score loads of goals. Yorke was a typical link man whom communication with Cole permitted him to swap position with the English striker and sent the markers into chaos. This “change of roles” would have given you the impression that we had two main strikers (this thanks also to Coley’s hard work and altruism) but the truth was that Yorke was the link man and Cole the main striker.

On the other hand Sheringham was one of a kind. He didn’t need technique or pace just because he left his brains do the work but deep down he was also a link man in the sense that he was always at the strikers back, opening him options where to score

Looking back SAF had always worked with a link man. That is why he is desperate to find one now.</strong><hr></blockquote>

er....excuse me? when did i ask about Cantona's ability? As if would need YOU of all people to educate me about Le Eric. and I havent laughed at anything on this thread. mistaken identity you prat.

I'm sorry devilish, i have to say this, you try very hard but you dont know very much about football do you.

We all know Yorke and Sheringham were both link men, why do you think I mentioned them in my post? And no...I was not confused into thinking Yorke was actually a "main striker". and Sheringham is not "deep down" a link man because he is a link man full stop.

My point is, they are both link men who do not do Cantona-esque flicks or Ronaldinho-esque dribbles or leg overs. Neither of them did skills or tricks or whatever it is you imagine a link man has to be.

Who knows maybe SAF really is unsatisfied with Scholes as link man. I am however delighted with Scholes.

Fergie going to sign Kewell/Duff/Ronaldinho doesnt mean he is looking for a link man, he is looking for a world class attacker who can play on the flanks OR down the middle to strengthen our squad for next season and for the future.

and to those people who are saying "we dont need back up for Ruud cos we have Ole and Giggs and Forlan and Scholes etc". Do you guys seriously think we pose a threat with those 4 players leading the line?

No Ruud = 4-4-2 = predictable = easy to stop = we dont win. It also equals lack of strength and presence up front, both in the air and on ground. It means any team worth its salt can beat us, you know why?

because when we send the ball up to attack, the attackers are eliminated from the game and the ball comes right back. You have seen it happen when we had Cole/Yorke and neither of them was leading the line.

the key to winning games is to score. if we played Liverpool without Ruud, we would never even come close to scoring. Anyone thinking we can throw Ole on alongside Scholes/Giggs/Ronaldinho and actually pose a threat hasnt been paying attention and doesnt understand the way football works.

what i'd give for a mark hughes type player.
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1.Del piero is the finest "second striker" in the world, so I would sign him.

2.Nesta for CD.

3.Buffon as goalie.

4. A rightsided midfielder to take some of the burden off Becks.

That's all.
 
Originally posted by ManRyan:
<strong>1.Del piero is the finest "second striker" in the world, so I would sign him.

2.Nesta for CD.

3.Buffon as goalie.

4. A rightsided midfielder to take some of the burden off Becks.

That's all.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The first three about as unlikely to happen as us getting Haaland to partner Keano in midfield.
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Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>Do they show much Turkish football in Malta devilish? Can't understand how Rustu has built himself such a reputation playing in a below average league and having a very good World Cup. I personally don't think he's the best out there.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Barthez and Schmikes hardly played in top class leagues, yet the latter went on to be our best keeper ever.
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Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
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Barthez and Schmikes hardly played in top class leagues, yet the latter went on to be our best keeper ever.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fair point.
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Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
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Barthez and Schmikes hardly played in top class leagues, yet the latter went on to be our best keeper ever.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What a fecking hypocrite! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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Originally posted by ManRyan:
<strong>1.Del piero is the finest "second striker" in the world, so I would sign him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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What a fecking hypocrite! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Hehehe, just read his Christiansen post. <img src="graemlins/wenger.gif" border="0" alt="[Wenger]" />
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Originally posted by Gazza:
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Hehehe, just read his Christiansen post. <img src="graemlins/wenger.gif" border="0" alt="[Wenger]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly, and as I just pointed out in Marching's thread about how other PL clubs can compete with us, when everyone was raving about Kluivert when he scored that winning goal in the 95 EC final, RVN was playing in MIDFIELD for Den Bosch FC, even though they were both born on exactly the same day in 1976. Just shows you doesn't it, all raving about Kluivert and nobody knew who RVN was!

Now look at the situation! Kluivert for 11m, RVN - 60m? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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You keep going on about this 'linkman' concept, and claims that Scholes is not a 'linkman', yet he's just had his possible best season so far mostly playing just off Ruud (which I thought was the 'linkman' role...

You also claim that he (Scholes) is the best 'in his department and should have NEVER been moved out of his role'. What 'department' is this?

Claiming that Scholes lacks vision and class to play in the role he has for the last two seasons shows a profound lack of understanding and appreciation of Paul Scholes. Maybe we should get rid of him as well as Giggs and Sir Alex?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think you are trying to score brownie points here off Devilish to look good with people who have been having a pop at him recently- pathetic really.

You know fine rightly what a "link man" is and if you don't well....

I think what Devilish meant about Scholes being the best "in his department" (and I think you knew also) was as a centre mid coming late into the box, and this is why SAF has been looking for a link man the past 2 seasons as he recognises that Scholes is better in a mid role (hence the fact that in our last few games he played Giggs in that role which coincided with our best football of the year).

IMO Scholes can play the link role well but I would prefer him in CM with a link man who can take players on (one of the few skills Scholes perhaps lacks) a younger version of a Di Canio or Zola, and the only player in that mould I can offer is Del Piero (a player who our skipper Keano also wants, which also shows where he would rather see Scholes play)
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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What a fecking hypocrite! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Let me see if I got this right (feel free to correct)

On another thread about Keano's form a poster recalled how well Keano performed against Charlton recently and you belittled him because Charlton were not in your eyes credible opponents.

Then on another thread you are bumming on about some washed up twat- Christen(guy is so insignificant I can't even remember his name) playing for Bochum in the Bundesliga.

So playing well against Charlton in your eyes is not really much to sing about (only the fact that our skipper give a glimpse of what we will get next season with a bit of rest and a preseason under him) but scoring goals in a shite league from a player (how many international caps has he got) who has graced such esteemed leagues such as Denmark and Greece amongst others is worthy of a place at OT because of his exploits against such credible opponents.

So you can probaly see why I find it strange that you can label anybody a hypocrite.

People in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones.
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WTF are you talking about, one (Keane) is a world class player that has had a serious injury and operation recently, and cannot train 2 days before or 2 days after a match.

Ok, the other could have been a world clas player if he didn't have a similar problem when he was about 21 years old.

Now, you want to compare the two? Well no, you cannot, because Keane will always as long as he plays for my club be first choice 11. The question is, will that be in his normal position. Well, nobody knows, because if you look at him play the games before Charlton, against decent oposition, say Real Madrid, he was a shadow of his former self. He was not that man in Turin on 21/04/99.

And if you think that I belittle the great man, then you are very mch mistaken, I just use my eyes. He was not last season the Keane of old, that great box-to-box player of old, and a player very very rare in world football. I am willing to wait and see, but if the worst comes to the worst, using him as a defensive midfielder is a misuse of his talents, the guy needs to be in the thick of things, rallying the troops, not left behind. Which is why, if the worst comes to the worst I would like to see him play for us at the side of Rio Ferdinand.

Now, back to that Danish play you comment about yet have never seen. He is Keane in reverse. He had his problems with injury at the start, but has got over them. And you are a bit stupid to call the highest scoring player in the German League. No, in fact, you are very stupid.
 
Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>washed up twat- Christen</strong><hr></blockquote>

An excellent way to describe a player that you have never seen play and the one that has just won the Bundesliga Golden Boot.

How intelligent you are. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
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I'm just wondering Dee, apart from the World Cup, have you ever seen Ronaldinho play? Have you ever seen Rustu play? Have you ever seen Man Yoo play?
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>WTF are you talking about, one (Keane) is a world class player that has had a serious injury and operation recently, and cannot train 2 days before or 2 days after a match.

Ok, the other could have been a world clas player if he didn't have a similar problem when he was about 21 years old.

Now, you want to compare the two? Well no, you cannot, because Keane will always as long as he plays for my club be first choice 11. The question is, will that be in his normal position. Well, nobody knows, because if you look at him play the games before Charlton, against decent oposition, say Real Madrid, he was a shadow of his former self. He was not that man in Turin on 21/04/99.

And if you think that I belittle the great man, then you are very mch mistaken, I just use my eyes. He was not last season the Keane of old, that great box-to-box player of old, and a player very very rare in world football. I am willing to wait and see, but if the worst comes to the worst, using him as a defensive midfielder is a misuse of his talents, the guy needs to be in the thick of things, rallying the troops, not left behind. Which is why, if the worst comes to the worst I would like to see him play for us at the side of Rio Ferdinand.

Now, back to that Danish play you comment about yet have never seen. He is Keane in reverse. He had his problems with injury at the start, but has got over them. And you are a bit stupid to call the highest scoring player in the German League. No, in fact, you are very stupid.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You fecking idiot, read my post properly, I was not comparing the two players (that would be disrespectful to Keano), I was merely pointing out that you did not read too much into Keano's performance against Charlton because they are hardly a TOP team, yet you think the sun shines out of this guys arse because he scored goals in the Bundesliga (a league that lags quality wise behind leagues from countries such as England,Portugal, Spain,Turkey, Italy to name but a few) hardly a TOP league. I was highlighting the fact you started your previous post against me by calling me a hypocrite, yet what I have just shown above is you are a feckin hypocrite.

Just because you are lonely and post here on a regular basis, doen't mean everything you say is gospel, When you are wrong admit it.
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I think that it is you Belfast Boy that cannot read.

Keane played very well against Chalton, but it is no indicator that he is back to being that same player of 21/04/99, and if you think that it is then you are a bigger foolish cnut than I ever thought you were.

As for this player in Germany you have never seen in your life, well, he's just won the golden boot by scoring 21 goals in 28 games, and it might be sensible, should I put this in bold for you to ease you understanding? to have him as a 3rd/4th choice centre forward.

You knobend!
 
Oh, BTW, there is a little question for you in the Christiansen thread, would you kindly go and try to address it? If you are capable of course.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>I'm just wondering Dee, apart from the World Cup, have you ever seen Ronaldinho play? Have you ever seen Rustu play? Have you ever seen Man Yoo play?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'll ask you the same question.

Unlike you I have a life which involves socialisng and playing sports so I don't tend to spend as much time as you in front of the computer or tv. Also unlike you I am not going to come on here and say I regulary watch the likes of Ronaldinho play, yeah we a highlights program every Sat morning but no live French games. Rustu no, I haven't seen him play since the world cup and if you read my earlier post regarding him I never made any comment on his ability as I am not in a position to comment, but what I did say in response to another poster who was questioning the ability of a guy due to the league he plays(which I thought was unfair, Rustu plays in a competitive league) in was that both Barthez and Schmikes did not come from any of the big three ie Spain, Italy or EPL.On Ronaldhino I made a post about being skeptical about him (not 100 pc decided either way) I would much prefer Del Piero (which in reality probaly won't happen). As for watching "Man Yoo", yeah I watch them on a regular basis on tv and also managed to fly back for a few home games and 1 away game this season(although you would know about the away game at Blackburn I was at, since you scrutinise my posts so much you will remember I mentioned on my return back how surprised I was at the booing Giggs was getting from "Man Yoo" fans). I think I have answered your questions adequately and respect that you don't try and palm me off with I watch Ronaldhino and Rutso play on a regular basis crap.

PS Are you fat?, just wondering as most computer nerds I know are fat, also I bet you are one of those pricks that can name stats such as passes made etc of players at seasons end.
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What a tit! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Dee lass, do you have a suggestion for an alternative 3rd/4th choice centre forward?
 
Please tell me he's not going to write an essay about Del Piero or Shvchenko or Vieri, please!
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Just shut the feck up you slow typing INBREED!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not slow typing, there is a crowd in my house(yeah I am socialising like real people do) and we are too busy laughing at how much of a hole you have dug yourself into to respond and further ridicule you, all in good time.

PS I don't think I ever actually said I have never seen the washed up one play before, more like you putting words in my mouth.
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Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>PS I don't think I ever actually said I have never seen the washed up one play before, more like you putting words in my mouth.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, you call him washed up, and you've never seen him play. Says it all really! Have you seen him play?

Washed up = Golden Boot

Wenger says RVN is washed up = Golden Boot! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
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Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
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Not slow typing, there is a crowd in my house(yeah I am socialising like real people do)</strong><hr></blockquote>

WTF are you constantly posting on here for then? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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I'm on my own actually Mr Social one, not surprising though considering that it is ten minutes to six in the morning.

Knob!
 
I thought that you had gone, yet here I am waiting for yet another 10 minutes on paragraph essay post from you. Shouldn't you be off socialising? <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
 
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