Manchester United vs. Stoke City

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We're in free fall at the moment and I don't think we're quite at the bottom yet. It's a right nightmare. Stoke have every right to feel disappointed they're only one goal up, they've been that much better than us.
 
Most of those are those who have only known success under Sir Alex Ferguson though. Most of them don't remember the days of Ron Atkinson and his lean spells where an F.A Cup was worth its weight in gold. Nowadays, our fans are so spoilt that it is unreal. It is good to have a reality check and it will separate the real fans from those who just look for success.

We know it's not going to be easy without SAF but we shouldn't be a mid table side though. We are nearer the bottom than the top.
 
Phil Jones...next England Captain, the new Duncan Edwards...feck me he is utter shite. Can't control a ball, makes needless fouls, his attacking promise he showed when first signed now resembles a wet fart.
 
Most of those are those who have only known success under Sir Alex Ferguson though. Most of them don't remember the days of Ron Atkinson and his lean spells where an F.A Cup was worth its weight in gold. Nowadays, our fans are so spoilt that it is unreal. It is good to have a reality check and it will separate the real fans from those who just look for success.

No shit we're demanding. You think Real Madrid or Barca fans would put up with this shit? Would they feck. We're on that level.
 
Most of those are those who have only known success under Sir Alex Ferguson though. Most of them don't remember the days of Ron Atkinson and his lean spells where an F.A Cup was worth its weight in gold. Nowadays, our fans are so spoilt that it is unreal. It is good to have a reality check and it will separate the real fans from those who just look for success.

Agreed. Support the team ffs.
 
Not worse than Nani and RVP. Nani has done feck all and keeps losing the ball, and RVP was completely invisible until he scored that goal. Kagawa and Rooney are at least moving around a lot, trying to play football.

Just because I didn't mention them doesn't mean I think they were great, you have to relax man. Criticizing your boy isn't meant as somehow bigging up others, most of them have been shit.
 
We just need to man up and grow a pair. It's not like we've been the perfect team, not for a long time now, but competence is a must. We can still win this as long as we think we can. If they are anywhere near as gutless on that pitch as us helpless onlookers, we're screwed. But, I'm going with the optimism - the quality is there and must out in the second half. And none of that classless booing shite.
 
Nani getting blamed for everything :lol:.

The defence has been absolutely dire. fecking shambles.
 
Most of those are those who have only known success under Sir Alex Ferguson though. Most of them don't remember the days of Ron Atkinson and his lean spells where an F.A Cup was worth its weight in gold. Nowadays, our fans are so spoilt that it is unreal. It is good to have a reality check and it will separate the real fans from those who just look for success.


Such true words those were the days when it hurt to lose an FA Cup Final.
 
He's been awful, but almost everyone has been awful. He's just come back from injury, and was playing some good football before he got injured a few weeks back (deserves to be in the team over Fellaini).

I know we've been bad but no need to talk shit like this.
Shite? Shite? This has been coming from me for a long time. Cleverly, at his very, very best is a mediocre player. More often than not, he's afraid of his own fecking shadow. He takes no responsibility on the pitch whatsoever, he hides, he gets rid of the ball at the earliest opportunity.

His ability is decent but he hasn't the balls to be playing in the middle for us.
 
He's also changed the whole backroom staff and replaced them with Phil Neville, Steve Round, and Nicky Butt. There was no need to change all of that except to put his "stamp" on the team. He's only made it more difficult on himself by doing it. If he had kept them, he could just come in and let everything keep going as normal in terms of training, preparation, etc. They knew what they were doing and had been doing it for years. Making so many changes in addition to replacing Fergie was dumb.

Hmmm...possible. Perhaps the changes have affected the players. Which is why he needs to be given funds to able to make this team his own.
 
Most of those are those who have only known success under Sir Alex Ferguson though. Most of them don't remember the days of Ron Atkinson and his lean spells where an F.A Cup was worth its weight in gold. Nowadays, our fans are so spoilt that it is unreal. It is good to have a reality check and it will separate the real fans from those who just look for success.

When we were going through lean times, was the style of play still exciting?
 
The only decent offensive player has been Rooney for me. They've all been average


I seriously don't know, not going to slate him now as he's just got an assist, but fecking hell, you can see that even this bloody Nani is struggling because there's literally 0 movement. Kagawa with no options to pass, Nani with the same and once Rooney starts dropping deep, we're lacking men forward and we do some idiotic cross. I don't know how to fix this shit at the moment.
 
This. When was the last time you heard United get booed at half time? That shit doesn't happen at United.

It's hardly a knee jerk reaction though is it? The match day goers have been served up this shit every home game since the season started.

Personally I don't believe in booing your team. Booing doesn't help to lift the teams morale (and ours is rock bottom at the moment) but it does let the players, management and owners know that the ladies and gentleman spending money to watch the team are not happy.
 
You're seriously mistaking him with Nani here mate.

It's idiotic to play two strikers AND Kagawa on top of that. Just drop some fecking striket at last.


What's idiotic about that? City have no problem playing Silva, Aguero and Negredo/Dzeko.
 
That is the worst I've ever seen United play in a PL match.

Beyond pathetic.
 
Jones and Smalling have earned themselves a spot back on the bench once Rio and Vidic are fit to play and start again.
 
Cleverley looks a bit lost, Nanis decision making is back to its worst, Jones needs to pull his head out of his hole and we're too pondersom in attack.

Hopefully the incident at the end of a half lights a bit of fire under us, we look flat and lacking in confidence.

Also wouldn't mind seeing Fellanini coming on and giving a few of those stoke cnuts a taste of their own medicine.

Long way to go, let see what happens when Stoke start getting a bit tired.
 
Wow. We're getting completely and utterly battered. There's no tempo or urgency to our game. Ridiculously easy for Stoke.

Moyes needs to hang a few of these players out to dry and HT.
 
The stream I just tuned into said we were booed off at half time. Is that true?
 
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