I quite enjoyed a lot of what I saw. Garnacho and Zidane just look great! I really hope they get some mins this season. After struggling in the 1st half, I thought Laird massively improved in the 2nd which was good to see. Martinez looked class imo. VDB had a good game. Amad finally had a decent pre-season performance. Still think he'll ultimately go on loan. Hasn't shown himself good enough to play for us this season. Now time to prepare for Brighton
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My guess is he is likely to be sold, along with Bailly and Telles.
Hopefully the funds go towards buying another RB and forward.
One hopes.
Don't forget Charlie Savage among the ins.
Telles and Chong can both leave tomorrow morning for all I care.
Decent pre-season overall, we've got to see things start to take shape under ETH but with clear issues that still need to be addressed. Now it's on to the real thing and we'll get a better idea of where we really stand this season, I'm cautiously optimistic.
Hanson was only on for a few minutes.
But he will be a good footballer for us.
But he will be a good footballer for us.
Yep. Once again, agree. They seem to lack that extra bit of imagination, and the skill to do something with it, that we can see in Garnacho and Iqbal.
This has me stumped for a while now. We've had youth players who play quick interchanging football but the ones who get into the first team show very little of it.
Amad needs more first team game time. He's better than Elanga, who's pretty crap. Hope Sancho is ready for next week. The one thing that really is apparent is that we need better squad depth.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for much from Garner, Eriksen, Ronaldo or Martinez given their lack of minutes but happy to varying degrees with them.
Laird I thought really grew into the game and was exposed horribly by:
Chong, who was bad, more frustrated with him than anyone because he is better than that but I think that ship has sailed now. Injury last season has killed his chances after a promising start.
Hannibal, outside of a horrible mistake getting caught in possession, IHA, Shola, Amad, all looked lively.
VdB and Telles need to leave. Don't care about depth at either position they just need to go.
Zidane Iqbal has class written all over him, hope he stays until at least January.
When last season ended, I really thought we needed about 10 new players in the first team (youngsters included tbh). That number seemed about right
Might get rid off those tourists.
Too early to write him off before we've seen if he can improve in-house to suit EtH's style of play, but based on today I don't see him being nailed on to make it as some people think. I'd much rather we sold AWB and kept Laird as backup to Dalot as opposed to sending him out on a loan where he'd be coached by someone else or playing as a wing-back in a 3-5-2 or something.
He seems a better stylistic fit for us at the moment, comfortable receiving the ball in tight spots and popping it off to his team mates, just lacks the first team experience that Garner has from his loans.
Garnacho and Garner are both ready. Iqbal is getting there. Amad needs to be around. Chong, or Chongy as referred to by a certain managerial genius from Norway, needs to feck off.
Laird, Garner, Iqbal and Garnacho all deserve to be in the first team picture this season. For me Laird should be our starting right back and learn about the defending part of the game from the likes of Varane whilst Garner would be a good back up to De Jong if we sign him.
Every time I’ve seen Iqbal he’s oozed class and you can see his brain is constantly seeing things no one else is, I’d say he’s probably ahead of Mejbri right now. Garnacho should be used as main back up to Rashford and Sancho if they’re to be our starting wide players this season.
Every time I’ve seen Iqbal he’s oozed class and you can see his brain is constantly seeing things no one else is, I’d say he’s probably ahead of Mejbri right now. Garnacho should be used as main back up to Rashford and Sancho if they’re to be our starting wide players this season.
Decent game from the kids all up in the end. I think Zidane and Garnacho have both performed well, and could force themselves into the squad. Amad showed glimpses, but still doesn't look ready. Chong I felt is the one who let himself down the most today, given nearly 90minutes, but didn't have a great game.
First 30 minutes were ok, last 10 mins with the kids in was good too, the bit in the middle was fairly drab. The defending on the goal was godawful, not seen it replayed but looked like Telles was the one leaving an enormous gap. Didn't really get chance to see Martinez do much, but he looked ok. Thought Varane was fairly poor.
Not too bad a preseason overall, none of the performances were worrying (unless you imagined we were challenging for the league this season) and I think we've seen as much progress as you could reasonably hope for in a month under ETH. Just hope everyone's sharp and fit next weekend.
Not too bad a preseason overall, none of the performances were worrying (unless you imagined we were challenging for the league this season) and I think we've seen as much progress as you could reasonably hope for in a month under ETH. Just hope everyone's sharp and fit next weekend.
He couldn’t ask for a better mentor than Eriksen.
I have a feeling AWB might get sold.
Based on today Iqbal looked more ready than Garner tbh
Opportunity to add a Championship title to our trophy haul.
Im watching the same game. He did nothing of note.
You'd have to wonder who'd be stupid to pay the sort of money we would expect to get for him. I reckon we'll probably want £20m back for him and he's clearly not worth more than half that.
Garnacho, Iqbal and Savage should be getting some minutes this season, case could be made for Laird - but I think we need to buy a new right back. The rest do not look either ready or good enough.
Rashford better watch out, because Garnacho could take his spot if he doesn't get his act together pronto.
Rashford better watch out, because Garnacho could take his spot if he doesn't get his act together pronto.
Based on that game alone I thought Garner showed that extra bit of composure. But Iqbal is also there or thereabouts.
Only two of the young players should be involved in the squad next week, Zidane and Ganaucho.
Predicted First 11 team all being fit ; D De Gea, D Dalot, H Maguire or R VaraneL Martinez, L Shaw, Fred, Ericsen, Bruno, J Sancho, Martial, Rashford
Subs; T Heaton, V Lindelof, R Varane or H Maguire , T Mallicia, S Mctominay, DVB, Zidane,, Ganaucho, Ronaldo
however I’m sure ETH will swap out Zidane and Ganaucho for J Garner snd A Ellanga, this is without doubt the most bang average attacking options we’ve had in 20 years.
Predicted First 11 team all being fit ; D De Gea, D Dalot, H Maguire or R VaraneL Martinez, L Shaw, Fred, Ericsen, Bruno, J Sancho, Martial, Rashford
Subs; T Heaton, V Lindelof, R Varane or H Maguire , T Mallicia, S Mctominay, DVB, Zidane,, Ganaucho, Ronaldo
however I’m sure ETH will swap out Zidane and Ganaucho for J Garner snd A Ellanga, this is without doubt the most bang average attacking options we’ve had in 20 years.
Not bad from the team, considering there were so many young players out there this afternoon. Garnacho was electrifying, good displays from Laird, Amad and Iqbal too. Less impressed with Chong (not strong enough) and Garner (doesn’t read the game quick enough).
One week of training and it starts again!!
One week of training and it starts again!!
Since your Pogba’s biggest fan I don’t feel the need to engage with you on what’s considered “good football” anymore. Cheers
Add Henderson, Greenwood, Matic & Mata to that list. We have no midfielders or back up forwards, the only area of the pitch where we have genuine competition and backups is the back line.
I genuinely like the look of Garnacho, Iqbal and Savage, but I’m really not confident we can rely on the likes of them and Hannibal in the big games. The thought of sending those lads out against Pool or City gives me a twitchy arse.
6th or 7th finish - Spend some dam money!!
It was hilarious probably one of the worst shots I've seen in years he didn't even hit the ball right
Anyway Telles must secretly be in love with VDB. He managed to find VDB another time later in a box full of players
I am his staunchest critic, the mods put an ironic tagline to try and wind me up.
You should look up my post history for any Pogba views
Garnacho was certainly a bright spark today, but some of the players really let themselves down today. I can’t see any way that Varane starts the opening game of the season ahead of Maguire, he was awful and that affected laird massively in the first 60 minutes of the game. Also what are people seeing in garner that warrants the praise he receives? I didn’t see anything from him today.
Garner is miles behind the rest of the squad fitness wise, as he didn't play at all on the tour of Australia due to injury.
Yeah, that one did not bode well for Garner and him asserting himself on the game.
What is scary is the amount of damn money already spent and the team is still hot garbage.
ok, my original question still stands, what did he do today to warrant the praise he is receiving? a few posters have included him in their list of players certainly ready for the first team.
The only real standout among the youngsters was Garnacho. Real talent. The rest are clearly not ready. Not even Laird and Garner. Each had a few good moments, but we will get wrecked in the league if we have to rely on them. Martinez and Eriksen were also class. VdB also had a better game than he usually does.
On the other hand, Chong was dreadful. Him and Telles need to be sold on short notice.
On the other hand, Chong was dreadful. Him and Telles need to be sold on short notice.