Usually give football journo stories a great grain of salt but this one sounds about right. Left it too late. As usual.
Usually give football journo stories a great grain of salt but this one sounds about right. Left it too late. As usual.
It's probably not accurate but according to transfermarkt Pere Guardiola only has Thiago Alcantara and Luis Suarez as clients. Luis Suarez.
Quite a few Spanish players have "represented by family" or similar things on transfermerkt. But in practical terms they're actually affiliated with someone like Pere Guardiola. I've lost track of who's with him now but he's been involved in quite a few deals as a "consultant" rather than agent.
We'll probably leave it late and lose out of Carlo, as well.
Then, we'll ask Fergie if he has any Scottish mates (who have no previous winning pedigree), who can manage us.
Same reason Klopp went to Liverpool, possibly.
I guess this paragraph of the article should be emphasized...
Pep's real - or second agent - is josep maria orobitg...
His clients... http://www.transfermarkt.com/josep-maria-orobitg/beraterfirma/berater/477 - just wanted to give you some help...
Maybe somebody should point out to intermediary Branchini, too. He was used e.g. from Pere to get in contact with Bayern when Pep thought the idea to coach Bayern was a nice one. Or Woodward contacted him last season because of Müller. Last Thursday he sitting after the official dinner in Zagreb together with Guardiola and the Bayern officials talking for a longer period. As I do not think that Pep does own contract talks without his brother or Orobitg it probably was about transfers for next summer.
http://barcacentral.com/2013/06/14/how-guardiola-made-his-move-to-bayern/
or take the original article that is a bit more detailed... http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/how-pep-guardiola-came-to-bayern-munich-a-905688.html
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I dont care even if dont sign any player or even lose DDG to Madrid this summer. Signing Pep is above all else for us.
What?
Basically, on the pitch, City are comfortably ahead of us. And when it comes to attracting prospective players/managers, City are a bigger draw then us right now. They have a very stable squad and manager. They have competed for the title, and qualified for the CL, for the past 5 seasons. They have 2 or 3 genuine world class players, they have huge financial backing, and they will continue to offer a great chance of trophies for the foreseeable future.
Obviously off the pitch, we're a much much bigger club. But I don't that is all that important to most players thesdays. As long as a club can offer huge wages, and silverware, then thats the most important thing. If it wasn't, then City and PSG wouldn't be in the positions they are today.
Now I'm not saying things wont change, I'm just talking about the here and now. And as it stands, City are a more attractive club to join then United for most players. There will obviously be some who value history and status more, but I think those players are in the minority, sadly.
Hopefully we are seriously trying to get Guardiola. It'd be negligent to do otherwise.
With this board and Woodward in charge? You can always expect stupidity.
You talk about money being an important factor and yet discount our financial power?
Cant see Pep going anywhere except City he seems to favor teams with a strong foundation with superstar players. It would be bad if he goes to City, players would chase him there plus hes really good at winning trophies. I think moving from van Gaal to Pep is a good step they have the same emphasis on possession but Pep seems to be much better at man management.
"Upgrade contact" sounds like something from a pervy dating guide.
We must get him. Even more so because if we don't, he's most likely to end up at City.
We're are a much much bigger club than City as you point out, and do have huge funds at our disposal as well. And even on the football pitch, I don't think we're that far off. One good summer where we fix the attack and were sorted.
All it takes is a manager like Pep really. If he comes to United I see us winning the league.
Yup. Would be properly fecked up if he goes there. Can see them dominating the league.
What this bloke said.
He's very likely to have a Sir Alex like influence on the league title imo. As in, whichever top club has him in charge, wins the title. Needless to say, I don't think any 1 club can utterly dominate like we used to earlier but you get my point.
Also, now that he's managed in both Spain and Germany, I don't see a rush to leave whichever club he joins either. Italy isn't close to being attractive enough and he's too young to move to NT management.
He wouldn't be likely to win titles here? People tend to overrate how good City or Arsenal here. There's absolutely nothing a top manager with a few good signings can't sort out.
I'm not sure his sides have that insane winning appetite that Fergie was capable of instilling not just over years but freakishly over decades and he can't compare in terms of squad building either. He mostly works at or near the top end which were not far off. But in terms of taking a team tactically to near perfection in both ideas and implementation, he is special. And that's why I feel so confident of winning the league if he comes. Instantly, United once again, as they've been used to, have the best manager around. It brings with it a lot of benefit. But yeah you're right, whoever gets him out of United or City will have a huge edge.
Indeed. We're quite likely to win things with a top manager who makes a few signings in attack (in particular). And us being one of the biggest clubs on the planet with big resources to spend only aides in making titles a possibility rather than "irrelevant".
You would think City are miles ahead of us.
They only 3 points ahead and haven't really been great. Kompany and Aguero seem to keep picking up injuries regularly. Not sure how Pep will get Yaya to run or teach Mangala/Sagna/Kolorov how to defend.
He himself doesn't believe in staying long at a club. Who cares though? If he stays on for 4-5 years and wins titles with us, it's more than anyone can ask for. Sir Alex was a freak not just in terms of his ability but also longevity, not going to be replicated.
I also think he's the perfect manager to take up from LVG and utilise the work done here. He's someone who works on a similar philosophy but is much more attacking. Lot of good stuff to work with here already.
Aye. The gap isn't that much even though they are easily the more entertaining side to watch. Whoever gets him instantly gets a major boost though and puts them in the drivers seat.
I don't. Longevity is sometimes overrated. It comes after actually being good enough. These days you can't expect more than 3-5 years and as you say having Pep for such a prior would be brilliant for this football club. I truly believe this is exactly what the club has needed post Sir Alex.
And the good thing about him is that his team's while being organised, which is what Lvg has implemented, also play fluid and expressive football that is great to watch. It would be the perfect next step from the work that LVG has already done.
Reading through this thread, some people seem to think United is some midtable team that's living off its history. It was 3 years ago when we were the champions. 3 years, not 13 or 30 freaking years. We are in a very bad patch but that's far from being a team with just prestige and history. We are not lost in some wilderness. We just took two very bad turns off the highway since SAF retired that's all.
I don't care if Pep is the best coach in the world, i want United to speak to a few more candidates and see what their plan is for a club like United, then choose the best fit. Don't care what anyone says, but i have always held the opinion that Moyes was the only candidate considered at the time because of his length of service at Everton, and feel the same way about LvG.
I believe woody sent him a naked picture in sepia effect. He also swiped to like him on tinder.
Indeed. Barca won 5 CL titles under 4 different managers over the last 25 years. We won 2 under the same manager. Fergie was great but a club like United should not depend on one person.
I am fairly sure that LvG was thoroughly interviewed by the Board and told them about his plans for our club are. The thing is the promises are far behind the facts.
This.
People are talking like we're not one of the biggest clubs in the world.
We're in a bad state for sure, but to suggest that were past it and irrelevant now because of 3 bad seasons after SAF is ridiculous.
You mean the spine of local players or stars that run for their team? Or Messi...
I think its just for calming the reaction. Suddenly this becomes the biggest news of the weekend. I dont have any faith in woody or LVG anymore. For me both need to go, or woody needs help with a Footbaling director.
Barcelona has longevity, they have people behind the manager who have for mission to maintain a continuity. The king is dead, long live the king!
I wouldn't say there was much continuity between Cruyff, Robson, LVG, Rijkaard, Tata Martino, etc. They still managed to win 5 CL titles.
There is continuity because Barcelona can always make a hard reboot, they have the personnel to do it. Barcelona do not rely on the first team coach.
It's already melting down...
It's all well and good saying we just need a few world class signings, but the market is a bit scarce of top class players at the moment. All the top players of this generation are at the biggest clubs already and City have a few of those players.
This first sentence is where your doom-mongering falls flat on its face. We've been utterly shit this year and City are a massive 3 points ahead of us.
3 points.
If our manager wasn't a complete emptyheaded numpty we'd probably be ahead of them. Yet they're "comfortably" ahead of us.
Thankfully I'm pretty sure managerial candidates aren't so short sighted.