Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014

It's almost impossible to guess who we're going to sign at the moment.
 
Not much interested of whos coming

I'm more interested of whos going

I don't wanna see more of:

Valencia
Kagawa
Young
Welbeck
Herdandez
Buttner
Cleverley

Without them, even without other signings, we will be a better team.
 
::sonny:: said:
Not much interested of whos coming

I'm more interested of whos going

I don't wanna see more of:

Valencia
Kagawa
Young
Welbeck
Herdandez
Buttner
Cleverley

Without them, even without other signings, we will be a better team.
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I see your logic there...
 
Sunny Jim said:
Ok..half of these players are much better than people claim
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Kagawa and Hernandez are hardly half. And even then, Chicha isn't good enough to be chosen over van Persie or Rooney, but he's good enough to deserve first team football elsewhere. Kagawa is the only person in that list that should stay.
 
::sonny:: said:
Not much interested of whos coming

I'm more interested of whos going

I don't wanna see more of:

Valencia
Kagawa
Young
Welbeck
Herdandez
Buttner
Cleverley

Without them, even without other signings, we will be a better team.
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Thankfully, your not our manager.
 
Saw that article about how Barca want van Persie. First reaction was telling them to feck off, he's ours.
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::sonny:: said:
Not much interested of whos coming

I'm more interested of whos going

I don't wanna see more of:

Valencia
Kagawa
Young
Welbeck
Herdandez
Buttner
Cleverley

Without them, even without other signings, we will be a better team.
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Right..
 
Our transfer business is extremely slow as usual, starting to annoy me to say the least. Chelsea are swiftly making some very good signings while we stand by and watch. For once in my life I hope I am proven wrong but this feels exactly like last summer. Lots of talk but not a lot of actual signings. Yes we now have a manager who knows what he's doing but it's clear for everybody to see, we need some major reinforcements. Rio and Vidic leaving who were one of the best defensive partnerships this club and the world has ever seen. They need to be replaced with equally world class players. Evra and Carrick another year older, our midfield in a dire state and our wingers unable to put in a decent cross or beat their man, we can only conclude we need to invest in this squad.
 
vibe said:
Kagawa and Hernandez are hardly half. And even then, Chicha isn't good enough to be chosen over van Persie or Rooney, but he's good enough to deserve first team football elsewhere. Kagawa is the only person in that list that should stay.
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If Hernandez is happy to stay as a super-sub he's good enough. We don't benefit by him going, it's more just better for his career. Welbeck is plenty good enough to stay too. The rest are pretty shit (though I still hang onto the decreasing hope that the right manager could get Cleverley back on track), but if you think them leaving without replacements will help us, you're deluded.
 
El-Manos said:
Our transfer business is extremely slow as usual, starting to annoy me to say the least. Chelsea are swiftly making some very good signings while we stand by and watch. For once in my life I hope I am proven wrong but this feels exactly like last summer. Lots of talk but not a lot of actual signings. Yes we now have a manager who knows what he's doing but it's clear for everybody to see, we need some major reinforcements. Rio and Vidic leaving who were one of the best defensive partnerships this club and the world has ever seen. They need to be replaced with equally world class players. Evra and Carrick another year older, our midfield in a dire state and our wingers unable to put in a decent cross or beat their man, we can only conclude we need to invest in this squad.
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It's not much talk at all atm, the club seem to have shut down and it's only the rags mostly making things up. We can't afford another summer like last and with the manager at the WC things will start to happen after Holland are out. Or thats what I'm hoping anyway. I'm weirdly calm though.
 
::sonny:: said:
Not much interested of whos coming

I'm more interested of whos going

I don't wanna see more of:

Valencia
Kagawa
Young
Welbeck
Herdandez
Buttner
Cleverley

Without them, even without other signings, we will be a better team.
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My god the standard of posters as hit an all time low.

How would we have a better squad by letting the like of
Welbeck, Herdandez, Kagawa, Cleverley and Valencia go? They are all excellent squad players
 
Dreaded said:
My god the standard of posters as hit an all time low.

How would we have a better squad by letting the like of
Welbeck, Herdandez, Kagawa, Cleverley and Valencia go? They are all excellent squad players
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Valencia, would be ok as a squad player. As a first choice, I'd pay for his ticket back to Ecuador.
 
ManniKaltz said:
That's exactly the point: You had one bad season in which you failed to even qualify for Europa League.

It's a very simple matter of fact that any club in any league or competition has only limited influence on its success:
You can (to a certain extent) control your performance but hardly the one of your competitors. In the PL, the competition for silverware and a CL spot got tougher.

If you like it or not: Other clubs, within the PL and across Europe, have (1) as much or more money as you or(2) have qualified for European football next season, many of them for CL. So why on earth should a player in his prime move to United this summer?
For many if not most, prestige comes second or third. Players generally open to a United move can comfortably wait one year to see what direction the club will take. If, for example, a player gets offers from you and e.g. Monaco next summer and both teams have qualified for CL, I'm sure many would prefer prestige over bucks. But this a potential future scenario, not the one you're in this summer.

Don't get me wrong:
I do have confidence that LvG will bring you back into the top 4. But (1) there's no guarantee, and (2) my career is totally unaffected if he doesn't. Which is very different for a professional football player and therefore, many of the top class players will shy away from the risk of two consecutive CL-free seasons.
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I give you Man City.
 
red_7 said:
normally £50m for a 31 year old is a good deal but since the £90m we got for Ronaldo went to America and it would be the same here. We should not give any quality player away for any amount of money in our current situation.

If we don not get back in the CL next season, we will be away years to come.

The damage of only one year after Fergie's reign is immense. We went from the pride of all europe to a laughing stock on and off the pitch. I wonder how deep we can fall...
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Jesus. Is your everyday life like a soap too?
 
El-Manos said:
Our transfer business is extremely slow as usual, starting to annoy me to say the least.
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Don't worry about it. Yes Chelsea have done a bit of business, but that doesn't mean that we're behind. All the other big teams in England have done nothing, and most of the big European teams have done nothing. I'm positive we have things being worked on and they'll be ready to go when the management wants them to go.
 
Subho611 said:
I give you Man City.
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ManCity played CL football in
  • 2013/2014
  • 2012/2013
  • 2011/2012
and will play 2014/2015. In 2010/2011, they played Europa League. Could you share with me the names of the world class players - because thats the ones I'm talking about - who joined them back then despite having other options? Thanks. :)
 
El-Manos said:
Our transfer business is extremely slow as usual, starting to annoy me to say the least. Chelsea are swiftly making some very good signings while we stand by and watch. For once in my life I hope I am proven wrong but this feels exactly like last summer. Lots of talk but not a lot of actual signings. Yes we now have a manager who knows what he's doing but it's clear for everybody to see, we need some major reinforcements. Rio and Vidic leaving who were one of the best defensive partnerships this club and the world has ever seen. They need to be replaced with equally world class players. Evra and Carrick another year older, our midfield in a dire state and our wingers unable to put in a decent cross or beat their man, we can only conclude we need to invest in this squad.
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Nobody knows what's going on behind the scenes, and generally, there's nothing wrong with slow. Just shows to me that (1) your targets either play WC or are ones whose future is in a way linked with those who play WC and (2) the club's communication is more professional than last year (the Fabregas saga was unbelievable).

The transfer market will drastically heat up after the WC.
 
ManniKaltz said:
ManCity played CL football in
  • 2013/2014
  • 2012/2013
  • 2011/2012
and will play 2014/2015. In 2010/2011, they played Europa League. Could you share with me the names of the world class players - because thats the ones I'm talking about - who joined them back then despite having other options? Thanks. :)
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These are top of the mind players I can think of -
Yaya Toure
Robinho
Tevez
David Silva

Now I am sure you are going to fit them in one of the very broad conditions you have set which are open to interpretation e.g. world class players, despite having other options etc. The point is that you can still attract talent despite not being in CL but yes you need to pay a premium for it.
 
Subho611 said:
These are top of the mind players I can think of -
Yaya Toure
Robinho
Tevez
David Silva

Now I am sure you are going to fit them in one of the very broad conditions you have set which are open to interpretation e.g. world class players, despite having other options etc. The point is that you can still attract talent despite not being in CL but yes you need to pay a premium for it.
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But that's my whole point from the beginning onwards: World class players who have options to chose from - not comparably unproven talent. The competition among clubs for those world class players have become fiercer.

Though CL is certainly more attractive, City had at least some EL football to offer:
  • Yaya Touré => joined in July 2010 => Europa League
  • Robinho => joined in September 2008 => UEFA Cup
  • David Silva => Europa League
Carlos Teves in July 2009 is the only one from your list who came with no European football whatsoever, and I don't know what other options he had.
 
Highly clutching at straws if you think Europa League plays any significant role in choose a club. Champions League is a huge factor, Europa league not so much and especially for the likes of Silva, Toure who were already well established starts.
 
I'd like to think players are a bit more forward thinking and Van Gaal's reputation would be enough for them to see he will do everything he can to ensure United aren't going to be in the doldrums forever and his appointment should improve our chances considerably.

Of course, there are no guarantees in football, but I would imagine that might also cross the minds of any players signing for Liverpool this season and perhaps even Arsenal.
 
Loon said:
I'd like to think players are a bit more forward thinking and Van Gaal's reputation would be enough for them to see he will do everything he can to ensure United aren't going to be in the doldrums forever and his appointment should improve our chances considerably.

Of course, there are no guarantees in football, but I would imagine that might also cross the minds of any players signing for Liverpool this season and perhaps even Arsenal.
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True especially when you remember that Jao Moutinho, James Rodriguez amongst a multitude of others have been easily seduced by the 'projects' launched by many the oil clubs . It's a fact that we can get the players we need, even in the absence of European football, but we may have to overpay on the wages to push the deal through. Shouldn't be hard to do given that we have lost a number of high earners and we should shed some more.
 
ManniKaltz said:
ManCity played CL football in
  • 2013/2014
  • 2012/2013
  • 2011/2012
and will play 2014/2015. In 2010/2011, they played Europa League. Could you share with me the names of the world class players - because thats the ones I'm talking about - who joined them back then despite having other options? Thanks. :)
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Yaya Toure (from Barcelona), David Silva, Balotelli, Robinho, and the year before, Tevez, Viera, Adebayor, Toure (they finished 10th the previous year btw) and Terry was close, and Robinho the year before that. Add Barry and Millner in the mix too.
 
Sir A1ex said:
If Hernandez is happy to stay as a super-sub he's good enough. We don't benefit by him going, it's more just better for his career. Welbeck is plenty good enough to stay too. The rest are pretty shit (though I still hang onto the decreasing hope that the right manager could get Cleverley back on track), but if you think them leaving without replacements will help us, you're deluded.
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I never said sell, sell, sell. Of course you don't throw away players if you don't have anyone to replace them with.

Though with no CL fixtures upcoming, I don't think we need that expansive of a bench either. The last thing we need in turbulent times are mediocre quality monthly expenses. One or two of those players should be sold just to alleviate some wages. Plus if anyone's willing to give us actual money for Cleverley, I think we should go for that.

Though obviously, we don't go on a selling spree before going on a buying spree.
 
ManniKaltz said:
Nobody knows what's going on behind the scenes, and generally, there's nothing wrong with slow. Just shows to me that (1) your targets either play WC or are ones whose future is in a way linked with those who play WC and (2) the club's communication is more professional than last year (the Fabregas saga was unbelievable).

The transfer market will drastically heat up after the WC.
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Why are those the only two possibilities of what's happening? What exactly would it look like if nothing was happening then?

I don't get this notion of celebrating the silence and implying it is some sort of evidence of activity. 'Great, I'm happy there is no news, that means nobody knows anything'. The media are supposed to report what is happening. If various media did not tell you that the Titanic had sunk, it's probably because it hadn't sunk!

I appreciate that sometimes they may be kept in the dark about things, all I'm saying is that unless you have your own source that has confirmed activity to you, then that is in no way a positive sign. I'm guessing the papers are not reporting we are about to sign Vidal because we are not about to sign Vidal. I would rather they were saying we were.
 
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