Semantics, but I will strike my colors. It will be interesting to see what happens with Woodward through the summer, he must be feeling some pressure unless he has some secrets ready to reveal after the WC.
Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014
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Semantics, but I will strike my colors. It will be interesting to see what happens with Woodward through the summer, he must be feeling some pressure unless he has some secrets ready to reveal after the WC.
The media is just creating these stories because they know United is in a transitional period. We're being linked with everyone and then they turn around and say that whoever they'd previously linked us to isn't on the list. It's just like fishing. They try to sound out our interest by dangling names. Now, given how quiet our activity has been (no doubt operating behind the scenes, as we should), they're just making up a story that Van Gaal is deeply worried about Woodward's competency.
The media hasn't got a clue.
The media hasn't got a clue.
I have a feeling we have contacted clubs and the players we want and got the transfers in place, well hidden of course, however we are just waiting for the world cup to end. If there are any injuries, it changes things. Just my own thoughts though.
I feel the exact way.
As soon as LVG came into the picture the way we were doing business changed transfer wise.
I unlink he basically told Woodward less talk and more action.
exactly mate. It's good to see there are no leaks. Much more beneficial to us.
That's entirely logical, and hopefully could be the case - but the same thoughts were had last summer as we awaited Moyes' summer holiday to end (I remember there was a rather good post written about how we'd reveal all the signings on roller-skates along with Moyes), but then we had the summer we had. A repeat of last summer will be the fear of many here, but hopefully you are correct - not least because we need to settle in any new signings we do make quickly to hit the ground running.
I do think there is something in this - there does seem to have been a dramatic drop in obviously briefed transfer nonsense in the papers recently.
Amateur....so he's blagged his way to his position in Utd, Really? If we are honest we know nothing other then what the m
Even worse than that, they heavy link us with a player, keep repeating it and then when he extends his contract or signs elsewhere, they report that ANOTHER Players turned us down.
No. He was clearly good at doing what he did before he took over his current role, but hasn't proved he's capable of doing it yet.
Enjoy the silence.
Correct.
I think that under Moyes (and possibly through Woodward himself) the media were clearly getting regular briefings about who we were after in the transfer market. Hence, the Club now being beaten with a stick about not having players signed before the World Cup after they leaked out that they expected to. It was totally naive of the Board to brief this in case the current scenario of not managing to sign anyone occurred.
I think now, the Club have (correctly) reigned those media briefings in and so the logical conclusion for the press seems to be to link us with everyone with a remote connection to van Gaal or as today, say we're struggling to get anyone in. The answer probably lies somewhere in between, in that we won't necessarily get all of our first choices in but I'm certain the Club are working 'quietly' to get van Gaal's targets to the club.
Ultimately, I genuinely believe that since van Gaal took over, the media now have no more of a clue than you or I as to who we want to sign and how close we are to doing so. So they are latching on to the understandable concerns of the fans in order to create a story instead.
The press may have written this story to flush some of our transfer targets out. United have gone very quiet. Maybe their thinking is, write a story saying how bad Woodward is and he will blurt out who we are definitely signing. The press have no idea who are targets are.
Those deals have not been completed though, the only player Liverpool have actually signed is Lambert.
We don't really know what is going on at the club which is how it used to be before last summer, we could have a couple of deals lined up but aren't publishing them due to the fact they can't be concluded until after the World Cup. I think the way the journo's had been briefed on who Moyes was after and then he got the boot and things changed has muddied the waters as they are lost and are throwing all kinda of claims around.
These days, I suspect that De Teelegraf, or however we spell it, is the best source of news from a transfer perspective. Van Gaal, like all managers, does have a mouthpiece. This might just be his.
I just don't see us spending stupid money on established first team players from elite clubs.
It's not what's needed.
It's not what's needed.
What is needed is quality players who have proven they can do it at the highest level, where they come from is irrelevant.
What's needed is good players, so yes I agree to an extent.
I haven't seen much of Rodriguez, but he must surely be a cheaper option than Shaw to solve our problem at left back. He has a very good left foot and he was the creator behind many of Switerland's chances today with his sharp crossing and passing. Shaw might be a better defender though but Rodriguez might be available for half the price??
Agree. Yes manager change is a stress factor, but we need a proper football department, scouts and stuff working for club, so that any manager that comes in would have many option in transfer market etc. And yes we need to target emerging players, Vidal, Sanchez and many other did not start at Juve, Barca, they were bought and actually Vidal was bought for relatively small fee. I would really want us to scout Germany more. A lot of talent there and mostly for really affordable fees.
What does LVG get out of leaking who he's interested in though? You can understand why he used them to help get him the United job, but why would he want to give his targets out?
The only reasons I can think of would be to unsettle the targets at their current clubs, but that wouldn't really justify him giving them his entire 'list' out for publication.
Silence is better than whispers. Have faith in van Gaal - he's no punk (or Moyes). We're obviously not going to sign anyone before Holland end their campaign.
I don't, but in the current media age deals are rarely come out of nowhere.
I've been making this point for a while now. People have already concluded that this window is a failure and Woodward is shit and we won't sign anyone. All this despite the fact that there are 2 1/2 months left in this window and for all we know Woodward could still play a blinder and have several good deals currently lined up. He might fail, but it's ridiculous to be writing him and this window off already.
They actually do come out of nowhere and often aren't tied to tabloid gossip or transfer muppets on web forums.
Firmly believe that the club will spend big whether it's on the players we want the most is open to question, as they will be very hard to get, Hummels, Vidal, Schweinsteiger etc, but we will spend upwards of £100 million even if LvG thinks the squad was ok as it is, which admittedly is unlikely.
This feeding the media with all the money we will spend wasn't just for us fans to cling onto, it was also for the sponsors, they are paying more than they would at any other club in the world to sponsor utd and expect us to be at, or near the top, I may be wrong but I think the reason we haven't signed the shirt deal yet is because Nike are waiting to see what we do this transfer window, and you can't blame them.
If we are still in this position when we leave for the pre season tour, then it's a balls up, but for now i'm happy to think the club know what their doing, and once teams starting going out of the WC it'll all come together quickly.
This feeding the media with all the money we will spend wasn't just for us fans to cling onto, it was also for the sponsors, they are paying more than they would at any other club in the world to sponsor utd and expect us to be at, or near the top, I may be wrong but I think the reason we haven't signed the shirt deal yet is because Nike are waiting to see what we do this transfer window, and you can't blame them.
If we are still in this position when we leave for the pre season tour, then it's a balls up, but for now i'm happy to think the club know what their doing, and once teams starting going out of the WC it'll all come together quickly.
Every major transfer this summer and last was reported in media long before being concluded.
Well in recent years United have signed the likes of Nani, Anderson, Hernandez, Bebe, Zaha, Powell and probably several others out of the blue. There's no clear correlation between tweets or tabloid gossip and transfers. Sometimes they're reported, sometimes not.
Luiz to PSG? Don't remember anyone reputable picking up on that until it was happening. Any links seemed totally speculative beforehand.
It was well known that Luiz wants out, even as early as last year and PSG always were in the running. And it was reported good three weeks before the deal was actually concluded.
I don't remember how it was with Nani and Anderson. Hernandez, Bebe, Powell did come out of blue, but none of them were majot transfer, Chicarito did well, but it was alwyas more of a punts really, like with Obertan or that chilean guy who we loaned to Zaragoza.
With Zaha there were a lot of rumours long before the transfer, and MU were favorites to land him together with Arsenal.
I'll believe you.
How about Lambert to Liverpool then? Or can that not go down as a major transfer?!
Yeah, that was a surprise. Every rule has some exceptions. I don't really get what are you arguing about or for exactly? I am saying that every major move is well covered by the press. Well since there are exceptions obviusly i can amend "every" to "most". Does not really change much in my opinion. I seriously doubt United will sign player like Kramer or someone out of blue after WC.
No argument - I just got carried away trying to find an example!
Since LVG has come in everything has quietened down though. With Moyes' transfers you always felt that at the very least you knew who he was after. With LVG I really have no idea and it wouldn't surprise me if a signing happens after the WC with very little warning or build up gossip surrounding it. Not like Moyes' 9 month build up to Kroos.
Well i sure hope so. Cause i mean we need signings desperately.
Not sure the lack of signings was down to him.....players probably said, no don't fancy playing under that manager as he'll be sacked after the first season.....
As things stand if he signed Vidal for £50m, Sanchez for £30m, Hummels for £25m, Strootman for £25m, Shaw for £25m and Reus for £35m there's a large portion of people on here who would be quick to criticise him and comment that it's easy to spend £200m on players.
Van Gaal worried by lack of progress
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...nchester-united-transfers-daley-blind-7270083
Guarin instead of Kroos
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...n-following-Toni-Kroos-Old-Trafford-rejection
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...nchester-united-transfers-daley-blind-7270083
Guarin instead of Kroos
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...n-following-Toni-Kroos-Old-Trafford-rejection
Guarin. 
He has done nothing wrong, as he has done nothing. I am sure Van Gaal is thrilled to bits with him.
The Express and the Star should be banned from this site if the criteria of the Twitter thread is applied.
Agree with that, they are like Indikayla but with a printing machine.
Saying that, thanks @Wibble for your effort to keep us updated even if it's Express.
If we have another summer like last we're well on our way to being the new Liverpool. Soon we'll have to develop our own boom bust cycle.