Rather than trawl through all the posts, I've just had a look what threads are at the top of the Transfer forum to get a feel for what players we are probably signing - just now - Shaw, Konoplyanka, Koke and Vidal. Not a bad summer!
Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014
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Imo we won't get all 4. Expect the same as last summer, failed bids, players rejecting us left right and centre. I miss David Gill.
Call me negative but I won't be proved wrong.
It is starting to become very similar to last summer.Putting in Bids/linked with unrealistic targets (Fabregas, Schweinsteiger, Kroos,etc.). Before we know it the World Cup will have started and you are then waiting until mid July to try and sign players. I sense another poor summer ahead.
What I don't understand (aside from Chinese writing) is that we were willing to buy Andrea Herrera last summer. Why haven't we scouted him further and made an effort to sign him?
What I don't understand (aside from Chinese writing) is that we were willing to buy Andrea Herrera last summer. Why haven't we scouted him further and made an effort to sign him?
Herrera seemed like a bit of a rushed effort to sign a midfielder after missing out on other targets. And I guess in Moyes mind, that place in the squad went to Felleini. We have a new manager too, so it's anyones guess who LVG wants at this stage.
I think that's exactly what happened with Herrera / Fellaini.
The problem is, how long do you keep chasing your first choice target (Fabregas last summer, I guess) before you give up and go onto your second and third choices? We will have the same dilemma this summer as well, but with the World Cup adding to time pressures.
Had touble sleeping last night, so I decided to sort out united's transfer plan for the next couple of years.
It did not help sleep come.
One thing I did keep coming back to was the difficulty we will have attracting people for a team not in CL, and how it reminded me (to a small extent) of city after they got money but before they got into CL. Now there were one or two exceptions like eventually getting tevez for ridiculous money but generally they had to spend a lot to get 'good' players as they couldnt attract 'great' players initially. It took them a bit longer to get into top four than they probably thought it would, but when they did they had an abundance of dross in their squad that was no longer needed as they could attract the likes of silva/aguero/yaya/nasri.
We have to be careful not to do same thing. We may become so obsessed with overhauling our squad that we buy too many 'good' players but no 'great' players like kroos et al. In my sleepless mind I thought to myself, maybe its worth a longer term plan. We want to challenge for title next year obv, hence the need to overhaul the squad, however, perhaps its best in the long term to reign it in a bit this summer. If we just concentrate on top four, maybe only get the one or two signings we need for that, and save the mega big CL/title winning signings for next year when we have a better chance of getting them?
My concern is that as we wont be able to attract the CL/title winning signings this year (debatable I agree), so we will buy too many 'good' players to compensate and be stuck with them on our wage bill next year when we can actually replace them with much better players.
perhaps I just need more sleep, or find the hole that ninja_spade went to to hide for a while
It did not help sleep come.
One thing I did keep coming back to was the difficulty we will have attracting people for a team not in CL, and how it reminded me (to a small extent) of city after they got money but before they got into CL. Now there were one or two exceptions like eventually getting tevez for ridiculous money but generally they had to spend a lot to get 'good' players as they couldnt attract 'great' players initially. It took them a bit longer to get into top four than they probably thought it would, but when they did they had an abundance of dross in their squad that was no longer needed as they could attract the likes of silva/aguero/yaya/nasri.
We have to be careful not to do same thing. We may become so obsessed with overhauling our squad that we buy too many 'good' players but no 'great' players like kroos et al. In my sleepless mind I thought to myself, maybe its worth a longer term plan. We want to challenge for title next year obv, hence the need to overhaul the squad, however, perhaps its best in the long term to reign it in a bit this summer. If we just concentrate on top four, maybe only get the one or two signings we need for that, and save the mega big CL/title winning signings for next year when we have a better chance of getting them?
My concern is that as we wont be able to attract the CL/title winning signings this year (debatable I agree), so we will buy too many 'good' players to compensate and be stuck with them on our wage bill next year when we can actually replace them with much better players.
perhaps I just need more sleep, or find the hole that ninja_spade went to to hide for a while
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Making any signings before the world cup isn't looking very likely.
I'm finding the "ANOTHER PLAYER REJECTS UNITED" headlines really tiresome given that I doubt we were genuinely in for around 95% of them. Cavani is the latest who the Daily Fail are suggesting is 'set to reject' us for the CL despite the fact that I don't think we were ever really in for him.
You make it seem as if Gill never missed out on anyone.
Our squad is one centre mid being of fine for top 4 competition imo. But to get back amongst the title we need 3-4 good buys.
We need a reliable wide player as well.
If that one CM gets injured then we are back to square one. We need 2 CM minimum.
I get what you are saying but we also have four to five players who could be leaving in the next two years meaning that offloading players will not really be a problem . Players like Carrick, Evra, Fletcher, Valencia and Van Persie are in this group so from a squad perspective it won't be an issue . If we got Clasie, for example, or that Ukrainian winger we can always demote then to squad player status once we are back in the CL where we can realistically hope to attract the likes lf Reus or Kroos, if either are still in play . The priority now should be to get the good players that can help is get the most from our few great players, which should be enough to get us back to fourth place .
A goalscoring wide player would be nice but I don't think it's imperative. We need a left back, centre half and two midfielders before we get to that. We're fine other than that.
I trust that Van Gaal can implement a progressive system that can get the most out of Januzaj, Kagawa, Welbeck, Nani or even Rooney in a wide forward role. Part of our so called wing issue is that we give them far too much responsibility. We're one-dimensional to a fault, and I think our wider players would benefit from a more varied game plan.
I think you severely underestimate just how competitive the current occupants of the top four are.
Signing two central midfielders and a left back are absolutely imperative; signings that simply have to be made this transfer window. But on top of that, we ideally need a centre back, goal-scoring winger and another right back wouldn't go amiss.
With all of those dealings however, I still wouldn't expect a title tilt even with van Gaal at the helm, but that should ensure we reclaim a top four place. No European competition should benefit us hugely, but you might get a reality check if you expect a title charge so soon.
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I think a commanding CB has now become the most important player we need. Of course, we need to address the long-standing MF issue, but I'll be shocked if we do not buy a CB.
And a LB, cover for RB and another CB. Our current CB's are made of glass, we can't go into the season with only them 3. Suicide
Michael Keane is coming through don't forget. I wouldn't be adverse to letting him provide cover and giving him game time if needs be. Varela can provide cover for right-back, he's 20 so it's coming up to the time where he needs to be given a few first team games.
Midfield and the wide areas are more of a priority than those two positions, if we sign Luke Shaw then that's left-back sorted.
Many are doing this.
We're likely to get rid of one winger and it's likely to be Nani because he can attract interest from other clubs the same can't be said about Young. While I think we need a top quality winger we can at least sign somebody reliable who can at least score and assist at a consistent rate.
Thought our transfer business would be hotting up this weekend?
I think that's a factor some posters are underestimating when they talk about us potentially winning the league. It isn't like LVG is just going to come in, undo Moyes' handiwork and get us back to they way we were under SAF. LVG will be taking us off in a very different direction, with different style, system and players favoured. It's going to be less of a return to normality and more like year zero for the club. As such, it's quite naive to expect instant progress and results, I think.
I'm very confident we won't be signing anyone 'til after the World Cup.
Can we afford another year zero? Last season was our year zero, the old club in transistion thing. Now we are a club in transition in transition.
I would happily take a few years in transition if it means we return to playing good football. The only concern then will be whether we'll be able to attract world class players but as far as I am aware, we have never been a club to sign superstars. So as long as we continue to find talents we should be fine in the long run.
Nah, last season was more like the last days of Rome or something, just madness. We were in transit to absolutely fecking nowhere.
Year zero will be good for the club. New style, new emphasis, building the team around new players, maybe promoting some youth candidates. Also getting rid of a lot of dross hopefully. What's not to like? If we can do all that and still qualify for the CL then I'll be very happy, we'll have set ourselves up nicely for the next few years.
Someone was saying about Michael Keane, he will have to improve on his U21 performances to get near the first team. We took a big hit financially we need to get straight back in that Top 4. The longer we are out, we will be haemorrhaging money and it will get near impossible to attract big name players and sponsers. There will be fans who have been attracted to us due to the success, I know some would like rid of that type, but the club cannot afford financially to be losing fans.
So City are set to "play hard ball" with Toure, by selling him to PSG (where he said he'd love to go and where he'd probably get a massive pay rise, and also live in Paris). Hard ball? What would they have done if they decided to go easy on him?
That part probably gives an indication of how much bullshit the rest of the "article" contains.
I highly doubt we will risk money on a crocked player...no matter how much LvG wants him. We must have learned something from the Hargreaves transfer.
it looks like a cobbled together article of all the newer names being linked to us.
It's funny, we moan that we cant seem to be able to buy anyone before world cup, yet we can't seem to be able to sell anyone either.
Where are the reports of x team after nani/young/cleverley/anderson/hernandez/buttner?
With exception of javier and nani the world cup isn't an issue. Just seems very quiet on that front. There was a brief report of cleverley being linked with everton but it didn't go far.
Where are the reports of x team after nani/young/cleverley/anderson/hernandez/buttner?
With exception of javier and nani the world cup isn't an issue. Just seems very quiet on that front. There was a brief report of cleverley being linked with everton but it didn't go far.
I don't we will sign Strootman till next summer. He needs to come back and prove himself again with his performances and his fitness.
There were rumors he was going to be offered a contract extension
Other teams aren't in a hurry as much as we are. There's very little transfer business overall at this stage - most of it will come after the world cup. Lack of nterest in Buttner/Anderson/Young is self explanatory and they're deals that clubs don't need to rush into. Stories about fringe players tend to sell less papers.
As mediocre as some players are - we're not quite in a position to lose so many players at once until players have been signed. We might see interest increase in the likes of Buttner/Cleverley once we sigh a left back/midfielders. Van Gaal might have some of those players in his plans too.
That is true. As much as I rate Strootman, there's no way LVG should spend a single penny until we have guarantees that he's fully recovered and good to perform at his best level again.
I'm sorry but what sort of writing is this? Is this how journalists write in the UK or is it limited to a paper like the Daily Mail? I can construct those thoughts better and I'm no Shakespeare.
I think jsingh wrote the mail's latest article. Pure fantasy.
Any credible rumours around today regarding us?
12 days till the WC.
12 days till the WC.