Didn't think this warranted a new thread, but with rumours flying round about Fabregas, who do we think will be the defensive target to sit next to him? Surely we need another more disciplined player for a 2 man midfield, Carrick isn't up to it anymore. Carvalho's staying it seems and Strootman's out until christmas. So who do we think?
Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014
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Not sure if this belongs here or not, but I'm just getting fed the feck up by so many posters having this negative attitude about our club in regards to transfers. It seems like every player who we'd like to sign is linked to any other club, there are a ton of posters saying "Feck, if club X is involved we can simply forget about him. Who would want to come here rather than there?" It's even been said about a player linked to us and Liverpool, and people thinking that this club has no pulling power what so fecking ever. Have some confidence, for Gods sake. Stop being so effing negative about this huge club of ours, and realise that this is a major powerhouse in world football rather than some one season wonder who'll be unable to attract a player just because we are out of the Champions League this season.
Some people..
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Referring to the Vidal thread? Its been said there because the other club in question happens to be Real Madrid.
Which player between us and Pool? Seemed to have missed that.
The Vidal-thread triggered it but it's been the way with more or less any other player who've been linked to us and another club.
According to De Telegraaf these are the four Van Gaal wants and before July. Kevin Strootman, Mats Hummels, Bastian Schweinsteiger and Yevhen Konoplyanka.
If true, those four plus Shaw would be the exact positions in need of strengthening. Two midfielders, a centre half, a left back and a wide man. People can debate quality and suitability, but if true, I'll be pleased with Van Gaal's direction for the team. Of course, cue transfer forum meltdown very soon.
really? i hadnt read that before 
Not exciting but addresses our issues. I'd love to see some big names like Fabregas added, although I'd prefer Koke.
On what planet isn't the likes of Hummels and Bastian 'big' names?
What? Course they are. So is Fabregas.
I think we've got more chance of shagging the pope than getting Bastian out of Bayern, but I'd be over the moon with the others plus Shaw.
This plus Shaw would make a brilliant summer....
Get the feeling we will need to get back in the Champions League to attract the really elite players like Fabregas, Reus or Sanchez
Schweinsteiger looks a long shot but he is getting on, had a good relationship with Van Gaal apparently and would add some much needed heart to our midfield - Bastian is a winner - Carrick for all his ability is meek in comparison
Strootman isn't really a holder anyway, he is only ok defensively. I hope we haven't entirely given up on Carvalho. Assuming Sven Bender or Javi Martinez don't suddenly become 'available' we could do a lot worse than Morgan Schneiderlin. Failing that, Gonalons? I'm sure our scouts can come up with significantly better ideas than I can.
I'm pretty into the idea of Bastian and Strootman it would instantly make our midfield one of the best in the country.
From what I've seen of him Konplinkyplonk is indeed a Young Ashley!
Don't how reliable this is, but John Richardson of the Sunday Express is already talking money and suggests that we have made a 25m offer to AS Roma for Strootman. In the same article is stated that RvP is very likely to become captain. Plus AS Roma have "informed" all potential buyers that the asking price for Benatia is 50 million...
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...United-move-in-for-Dutch-star-Kevin-Strootman
Also on the Sunday Express: Liverpool and United are both after Alexis Sanchez, City have shown interest in signing Fabregas, Southampton are determined to play hard ball over Shaw and Lallana.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...erpool-s-Sanchez-bid-City-enter-Fabregas-race
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...United-move-in-for-Dutch-star-Kevin-Strootman
Also on the Sunday Express: Liverpool and United are both after Alexis Sanchez, City have shown interest in signing Fabregas, Southampton are determined to play hard ball over Shaw and Lallana.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...erpool-s-Sanchez-bid-City-enter-Fabregas-race
Strootman ain't out till Christmas, he's expected to be fit for September. Don't think we'll sign him this window though as it'd be a massive gamble.
With Schweini and Strootman in our midfield we would instantly be challenging for the title again. And then Hummels and Shaw at the back, we would have too many good players not to.
Would love both strootman and bastian in our midfield. Besides the obvious talent, both will add much needed leadership in our team
We'd obviously have a huge amount of quality on the ball; neither is a natural holder though, so the defence might be left exposed if we came up against sides with clever number 10s. They aren't particularly mobile either, and would struggle to deal with heavy pressing, which is without doubt both players achilles heel. Doesn't look well-balanced to me, despite the obvious quality.
Wonder what the new week will bring? It's getting awfully close to the World Cup. If Woody is to keep his word then signings should getting near.
I wouldn't be adverse to giving Fellaini a proper go in centre mid with a more mobile player beside him. Looks likely we'll be getting Shaw at left back plus we have Evra.
At right back we are well stocked with hopefully Rafael (needs to show he can stay fit) if not then Valencia or Jones.
I agree we could improve on certain positions like the wings but we do have Valencia Nani Adnan Young Mata Welbeck Kagawa to play in these attacking positions so we are not starved of choice.
The centre back area will look better with a proper midfield in front of it imo. We are more than capable of finishing top 4 without even buying signing 2 a left back and a centre mid should more than guarantee it.
Sorry but a club of our size and stature shouldn't be relying on a right winger and centre half for cover in the RB position. Just promote Varela
Ok Varela is fine but this just emphases my point we are well covered at right back just now and there are no need to spend big in this position right now.
Good post Burrow. Some people go on as if were a League 2 minnow competing for signatures of world class players with PL giants. It's ridiculous. Maybe last summer scarred a few pretty deeply.
Just fecking sign somebody.
I think everyone would love them, in reality the likelihood of it happening is very very slim.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...chester-united-transfers-mats-hummels-7199862
United fans have the right ideas. Strootman, Koke, Shaw and Reus. Muppet dream. Won't happen though.
My only opposition to that lineup is Hummels. And I still reckon Shaw's Chelsea bound, despite me wanting him at United.
United fans have the right ideas. Strootman, Koke, Shaw and Reus. Muppet dream. Won't happen though.
My only opposition to that lineup is Hummels. And I still reckon Shaw's Chelsea bound, despite me wanting him at United.
Great choices, beside Schweinsteiger and Yevhen who I believe we could do much better. The latter though I have not seen much of him beside some qualifies matches.
On Schweinsteiger, he is past it and would only slow down our already static midfield without truley strengthen it. Carvalho and kovacic are more attainable and are better option that offers attributes that we lack and need in our midfield. However, Van Gaal will most likely look for experience, so our supposed interest in him, might be understandable.
Relying on Fellaini or expecting vast improvement from him next season, considering the philosophy LVG will look to implement along with the performances he has produced thus far would be naivety of the highest order. Significant investment in midfield has been long-overdue and it's imperative we amend that deficiency in the form of two midfielders this summer.
Left back will be addressed of course and ironically it could be one of our strongest areas heading into the new season. I expect a revitalised Evra, due to him not having to play in excess of forty games a season. Shaw will offer longevity and quality in that position for the next twelve years or so.
Admittedly, right back cover isn't a pressing matter. It certainly isn't necessary to address that externally, when we can look within the U21's at Varela. Rafael picks up too many injuries - many sustained of his own accord - and Jones and Valencia aren't players I wouldn't describe as 'viable options' there, particularly the latter. So with that in mind, it's something that wouldn't go amiss, although hopefully Varela can prove himself capable.
And you've merely listed every possibly attacking player in the offensive or wide midfield positions, despite some having produced next to nothing for us in recent seasons. The only players I'm confident with are Mata, Kagawa, Welbeck and Januzaj. Our three conventional wide men are non-entities in my opinion, so I do think it's vital we add a goal-scoring winger to our ranks.
In centre back, I have the utmost faith in our defenders fulfilling their potential - Smalling in particular - if used correctly. But all three have injury issues, so in that sense it would be wise to recruit another centre back.
I must admit, I am staggered at the amount of people who think we will waltz top four if we simply sign in critical areas. So many people are severely underestimating the competition and it's as if they dismiss the notion of those sides significantly improving their sides also.
I think we will be embroiled in a top four fight, but we have to sign quality in a number of areas. Signing just the two players wouldn't suffice, European football or not.
Granville95 I don't disagree we could do with 2 midfielders to really improve us but I just think you are seriously underestimating our squad. If managed properly imo this squad should be top 4 easily as it was only 1 year ago we were run away winners. We have lost Rio Vidic and Giggs but we have also gained Mata and Fellaini, plus the emergence of Adnan. A signing of Shaw and a centre midfield should see us cemented in the top 4. Ideally we will buy a centre half and another centre mid but I think we should and will get top 4 regardless if we do.
I've seen a few people suggest Schweinsteiger is past it. Is he really? I mean he's only 29, plenty of midfielders have played their best football while older than that.
Also, the leadership qualities he'd provide would be invaluable as that's an area in which we're sorely lacking. That's actually a quality the likes of Strootman and Hummels would provide too, isn't it? That list of supposed targets might be bollocks but at least those players would provide us with some of the spine we're currently missing.
Also, the leadership qualities he'd provide would be invaluable as that's an area in which we're sorely lacking. That's actually a quality the likes of Strootman and Hummels would provide too, isn't it? That list of supposed targets might be bollocks but at least those players would provide us with some of the spine we're currently missing.
I agree
Schweinsteiger would be a very good signing with all his experience, and only a year ago he was touted as the most in-form midfielder in Europe.
He's definitely not past it. 3 years younger than Xabi Alonso and 5 younger than Xavi. I believe he has had some tendonitis and ankle problems though, which is a little concerning.
Correct.
You'll be delighted to hear that Hummels won't come anyway.
I'm all for signing Schweinsteiger, so long as we realise we can't pair him with Carrick or someone equally slow.
Agreed. I expect that the immediate concern of getting back into the CL means that we're not going to worry too much about the age of the players we sign to achieve that. Can't see him leaving Bayern though.
Perhaps I am, but I really don't think the squad would be in a healthy state going into the new season if we made just two additions.
Despite the distinct regression from Rio, Vidic and Giggs in recent seasons, the experience lost there is invaluable and current players in our squad who would be deemed direct replacements, simply aren't comparable, even if some are promising players. The standard is slipping.
Anyway, it's not necessarily of me being overtly harsh on our squad, but giving a clearer depiction of the quality of our rivals. The current top four occupants are all competitive sides who could all I improve so I don't believe it'll be so straightforward for us to simply reclaim a top four berth with ease. Those expecting a title challenge are a bit too expectant as far as I'm concerned.
This is based on absolutely nothing (so probably will be taken for the Daily Express back page tomorrow) but I really do think we'll sign someone this week.