Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014

Santos J said:
He wouldn't improve us though that's the thing. Our squad's filled with enough average, we don't need more.
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personly what ive seen of clasie i think he would improve us.

but say your right, who is thier... where not gonna get the Kroos, vidal fabregas level of player. and you dont think the clasie level of player is good enough? so whats the way forward?
 
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RedRover said:
You've got no idea whether the club are even interested in him. This could just be lazy journalism based on the fact that he is manager of Holland. Where will the press be getting this info? - because with a WC to prepare for I suspect Van Gaal isnt giving them it. The fact that we've been linked with about ten Dutch players since he was appointed tells you all you need to know. People putting two and two together and getting five.

And there is some rubbish being talked about players "not willing to join". Top players will come here - the club has money to spend and a top manager in charge. No need to panich buy second rate players.
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no i have no idea who where intrested in this summer, ive never claimed i have, no one on this forum has any real idea who where after this summer, where all guessing( if i was gonna guess further i would suspect even Van Gaal dont 100% no who he wants this summer with everything going on in his life). So i dunno if van gaal is intrested in clasie or not, im just saying i would have no problem if he was.

it got nothing to do with the press reporting players been reluctant to join, or overly pessimistic fans, it simple logic. If you try and sign one of the best players in the world from the one of the best clubs the world 99% of the time your gonna fail, (unless youve got a great bargaining chip,like ronaldo been desprate to play for madrid for example).
becuase first the best clubs don't wanna sell thier best players, and the best players genrally don't wanna leave the best clubs, and in the very unlikly scenario that they do your gonna have so much competition from other clubs you may lose them anyway (particularly this summer with no CL football to offer next season).

so basing our summer activity around going after elite players, in a summer we so obviously need to improve would be folly.
we should be basing our summer acivity on trying to buy the best players from around the world who are at none elite clubs. i think clasie comes under this catergory, if you don't that fine nowt wrong with disagreeing
 
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So LvG cancelled a Transfer for Garay to let Eddy go for Hummels all summer and end up with Martins Indi late August?

Both Clasie and Martins Indi may be good aditions to the squad as long as we sign 1 world-class player in each of their positions!
 
We need one world class centreback - in Evans, Jones and Smalling, we have plenty of youth and potential. Really hope the Martins Indi stories are a figment of someone's imagination.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Oh come on...

I saw this article just now on a dutch football forum. Everybody on that forum was laughing their arse off, saying it had to be a pisstake because no way are those 2 players worth £30m. One Feynoord fan even said he would take them both on his back and swim them across the canal to Manchester for that kind of money. Most of them saying both of them aren't anywhere near good enough for top level in the PL and saying they would bite our hand off if we gave them £17m for the both. I was wondering how the caf would take this rumour, must say I didn't expect this however :lol:

No seriously Clasie is rated as a similar player to Cleverley with his head screwd on a bit beter, most people are saying he would do well for a team like Swansea or Villa but is far too limited to ever play at the top level in the PL. BMI is on a similar level. I don't think United should go anywhere near them, we should be aiming alot higher than that, if we'd get one of them it would only be justified as squad rotation players (and given our squad I'd hardly see the point) and no way are they worth £30m.
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His BMI is on a similar level to Cleverley? That's OK, as long as he's not another Anderson.
 
I don't like the idea that we only sing one CM this summer and it's an injured Strootman
 


Good news on the Shaw front.

It all fell apart when there were rumors claiming Pochettino was considering staying at Southampton but Shaw staying was among one of his demands.

The optimist in me thinks Shaw has signed the papers, nothing Pochettino could have done, he says feck it and goes to Spurs.
 
MkPaul said:


Good news on the Shaw front.

It all fell apart when there were rumors claiming Pochettino was considering staying at Southampton but Shaw staying was among one of his demands.

The optimist in me thinks Shaw has signed the papers, nothing Pochettino could have done, he says feck it and goes to Spurs.
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Exodus has begun, i think the vultures will kill poor old southampton for good. I expect shaw,lallana,shaw and rodriguez to leave.

Shaw- United
Lallana - Liverpool
Rodriguez -SPurs
Lovern - Spurs/liverpool
 
Lets be honest, it's going to be an underwhelming summer as always. The only difference is the added frustration that the club have been banging on about top players wanting to sign and our "war chest" budget
 
Nytram Shakes said:
no i have no idea who where intrested in this summer, ive never claimed i have, no one on this forum has any real idea who where after this summer, where all guessing( if i was gonna guess further i would suspect even Van Gaal dont 100% no who he wants this summer with everything going on in his life). So i dunno if van gaal is intrested in clasie or not, im just saying i would have no problem if he was.

it got nothing to do with the press reporting players been reluctant to join, or overly pessimistic fans, it simple logic. If you try and sign one of the best players in the world from the one of the best clubs the world 99% of the time your gonna fail, (unless youve got a great bargaining chip,like ronaldo been desprate to play for madrid for example).
becuase first the best clubs don't wanna sell thier best players, and the best players genrally don't wanna leave the best clubs, and in the very unlikly scenario that they do your gonna have so much competition from other clubs you may lose them anyway (particularly this summer with no CL football to offer next season).

so basing our summer activity around going after elite players, in a summer we so obviously need to improve would be folly.
we should be basing our summer acivity on trying to buy the best players from around the world who are at none elite clubs. i think clasie comes under this catergory, if you don't that fine nowt wrong with disagreeing
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So by that logic we shouldn't bother going for the best players then? You seem convinced - based on nothing at all, that the top players aren't interested.

The fact is this is one of the worlds biggest clubs in arguably the biggest league on the planet. There are potentially exciting times ahead under a top class manager and importantly the club can do exactly what Chelsea, City, PSG, Real Madrid and others can do in offering mega wages.

You target second rate players, you end up with a second rate team and your giving up before you've even started. The other top sides attract the top players and there is no reason at all why United can't do likewise.

In reality, Van Gaal has plenty of experience and I'm sure will bring in the players he feels are right to take the club forward. Whoever that is then fair enough.
 
KingMinger22 said:
Lets be honest, it's going to be an underwhelming summer as always. The only difference is the added frustration that the club have been banging on about top players wanting to sign and our "war chest" budget
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Writing off the window before it has even opened?

The Caf.
 
RedRover said:
So by that logic we shouldn't bother going for the best players then? You seem convinced - based on nothing at all, that the top players aren't interested.

The fact is this is one of the worlds biggest clubs in arguably the biggest league on the planet. There are potentially exciting times ahead under a top class manager and importantly the club can do exactly what Chelsea, City, PSG, Real Madrid and others can do in offering mega wages.

You target second rate players, you end up with a second rate team and your giving up before you've even started. The other top sides attract the top players and there is no reason at all why United can't do likewise.

In reality, Van Gaal has plenty of experience and I'm sure will bring in the players he feels are right to take the club forward. Whoever that is then fair enough.
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what do you mean based on nothing at all? in what way is the obvious fact that buying the best players from the best teams with out there has a slim chance of success nothing?
 
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Kag said:
I've actually been taken aback by how mental the transfer forum has got over the past week. It's the 27th of May. Madness.
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Imagine this place if we still had Moyes? ....Actually don't, I don't want to be responsible for anyone's nightmares.
 
May have already been posted but Barca saying Sanchez not for sale
 
A1X said:
Didn't the window technically open the day after the season finished?
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Yes it did, for transfers in the same league.

But don't tell the forum experts that, it gives them one less thing to beat you with.
 
Kag said:
I've actually been taken aback by how mental the transfer forum has got over the past week. It's the 27th of May. Madness.
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Yeah, I've been surprised by it too. Expected a mental summer but its been ridiculous so far. cant wait for the WC to start so that this nonsense goes away.
 
Varun said:
Yeah, I've been surprised by it too. Expected a mental summer but its been ridiculous so far. cant wait for the WC to start so that this nonsense goes away.
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I think it's gonna get worse.
Once any random player got a half decent game in midfield, he's gonna have a thread here
 
Nytram Shakes said:
what do you mean based on nothing at all? in what way is the obvious fact that buying the best players from the best teams with out there has a slim chance of success nothing?
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Read what I actually wrote:

"You seem convinced - based on nothing at all, that the top players aren't interested."

Obviously signing top players is not easy, but so what? The transfer window hasn't even opened yet and people are banging on as if its all doom and gloom becuase we've not signed four world class players and as if its a given that we can't compete.

We have a need for top players and will offer big wages, an exciting plan for the future and the chance to play for a massive club in a hugely popular league under a top manager. We have as much chance of getting these players as any other club.

Now is not the time to be writing off the clubs chances of getting in real quality.
 
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No seriously Clasie is rated as a similar player to Cleverley with his head screwd on a bit beter, most people are saying he would do well for a team like Swansea or Villa but is far too limited to ever play at the top level in the PL. BMI is on a similar level.
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I assume BMI stands for Boring Midfield Ineptitude, in this context.
 
RedRover said:
Read what I actually wrote:

"You seem convinced - based on nothing at all, that the top players aren't interested."

Obviously signing top players is not easy, but so what? The transfer window hasn't even opened yet and people are banging on as if its all doom and gloom becuase we've not signed four world class players and as if its a given that we can't compete.

We have a need for top players and will offer big wages, an exciting plan for the future and the chance to play for a massive club in a hugely popular league under a top manager. We have as much chance of getting these players as any other club.

Now is not the time to be writing off the clubs chances of getting in real quality.
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why am i bringing doom and gloom? i think where a massive club who has the pick of the worlds best players best for the few apart from few clubs that are currently more succeful that us so it will be near on impossible to by thier best players. becuase the best clubs hardly ever sell thier best players, thats just common sense.

im not saying if an elite player comes on the market we shouldnt throw everything at them to get them, but our summer plans shoud not revolve around of that type of player becuase if it does, the likly hood is what happened last summer a scrabble in the last few days to get anyone

personly i think van gaal is sensible enough and been round the block enough to no that, and will bring in the best players possible, but i don't think that will be players from bayern munich, real madrid, barcalona......
if you think thats doom and gloom then fine, put personly i think it just not putting unreasable expectations on our manager that he has nearly no chance of matching
 
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Nytram Shakes said:
wh am i bringing doom and gloom? i think where a massive club who has the pick of the worlds best players best for the few apart from few clubs that are currently more succeful that us so it will be near on impossible to by thier best players. becuase the best clubs hardly ever sell thier best players, thats just common sense.

im not sayig if an elite player comes on the market we shouldnt throw everything at them to get them, but our summer plans shoud not revolve around of that type of player becuase if it does, the likly hood is what happened last summer a scrabble in the last few days to get anyone

personly i think van gaal is sensible enough and been round the block enough to no that, and will bring in the best players possible.

im not bringing doom and gloom im just not putting unreasable expectations on our manager that he has nearly no chance of matching
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Your attitude was "its so hard to by the best players so we need to do something else". Its a defeatist attitude which frankly I dont understand.

You're talking about "unreasonable expectations"? As if its a foregone conclusion that we wont be able to sign top players, which again, is something I dont understand. As I've said repeatedly - the other top clubs sign the best players every summer. There is no logical reason why we shouldn't be able to do the same.

If that doesn't work then the club should have other targets in mind, and should be considering their position over the summer. But we haven't reached the time for panicking yet. I dont see how buying second rate targets early in the summer because" there are no top players for sale" is any better than buying them later on.

What the best clubs do is identify targets and go after them hard. PSG, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barca get stuff done and thats what United have to do in order to get the players they want. In the end the club needs to get its business done as quickly as possible. It will however take time so fans should be patient.
 
RedRover said:
Your attitude was "its so hard to by the best players so we need to do something else". Its a defeatist attitude which frankly I dont understand.

You're talking about "unreasonable expectations"? As if its a foregone conclusion that we wont be able to sign top players, which again, is something I dont understand. As I've said repeatedly - the other top clubs sign the best players every summer. There is no logical reason why we shouldn't be able to do the same.

If that doesn't work then the club should have other targets in mind, and should be considering their position over the summer. But we haven't reached the time for panicking yet. I dont see how buying second rate targets early in the summer because" there are no top players for sale" is any better than buying them later on.

What the best clubs do is identify targets and go after them hard. PSG, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barca get stuff done and thats what United have to do in order to get the players they want. In the end the club needs to get its business done as quickly as possible. It will however take time so fans should be patient.
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unreasonable expectations is going to bayern munich, real madrid and Barcelona and expecting to sign thier best players. basing a summer around that is just ridiculus the kind of thing schools boys come up with.

out of intrest who are you suggesting we go after?
 
There is definatley a number of posters on here who want to change Manchester United into the Harlem Globe Trotters this season
 
I guess it's pretty underwhelming the targets that are being mentioned now, as compared to a couple of weeks ago, but it's just another one of Moyes's legacies.

Hopefully van Gaal will be able to get the best out of who we bring in sufficient to get us back in to Europe and give us the choice of the elite players again.
 
Colin129 said:
I guess it's pretty underwhelming the targets that are being mentioned now, as compared to a couple of weeks ago, but it's just another one of Moyes's legacies.

Hopefully van Gaal will be able to get the best out of who we bring in sufficient to get us back in to Europe and give us the choice of the elite players again.
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Eh? Why is it Moyes legacy? He had targets lined up that were much more ambitious than anything we're seemingly looking at now.
 
backofthenet said:
Eh? Why is it Moyes legacy? He had targets lined up that were much more ambitious than anything we're seemingly looking at now.
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He didnt have anything lined up, stop believing every thing you read.

You think any manager in the universe would pull the plug on two all the way down the pipeline nailed on quality midfield signings seconds after taking the job at United?

Hey there Louis, do you want to take over the club with 2 new world class midfielders taken care of, or the selection of sub par rubbish we currently have on the roster?

I'll take the sub par rubbish every time please, I love a challenge and want to have as little chance as possible of winning anything during my time with United as possible.

:wenger:
 
Ducklegs said:
He didnt have anything lined up, stop believing every thing you read.

You think any manager in the universe would pull the plug on two all the way down the pipeline nailed on quality midfield signings seconds after taking the job at United?

Hey there Louis, do you want to take over the club with 2 new world class midfielders taken care of, or the selection of sub par rubbish we currently have on the roster?

I'll take the sub par rubbish every time please, I love a challenge and want to have as little chance as possible of winning anything during my time with United as possible.

:wenger:
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Also, the kind of targets we've been linked with may well have been attainable had we finished anywhere near the European Cup places.

Moyes' mismanagement has seen as drop out of the European places altogether. The big name players wanna play on the biggest stage and very few of them will risk going to a club that can't offer that. Yes, United are a big club. So are AC Milan. It means nothing. We will both struggle to attract the highest quality of player. If you're a top player on a big wage, and guaranteed Champions League football if you sit tight or go elsewhere, you ain't going to the seventh placed team in England.

Moyes dragging us down to seventh means its virtually impossible to think we'll be able to buy big. The only thing that gives me hope is Van Gaal's proven ability at coaching and developing players, which gives me confidence about next season regardless of who we buy.
 
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