Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014

Midfield options could well be: Blind, Clasie and a deal agreed in principle for Strootman but finalised in January (is that possible?).

Martins sounds a good option for CB and Depay would constitute a really positive signing for our wing options. I am not sure how realistic it is to buy 3 Feyenoord players, though. That's a pretty thorough raid. :nervous:

Blind, Clasie and Strootman is a very realistic midfield 3 with Blind in the holding role, Clasie as the playmaker type and Strootman box to box. I would be happy with that Dutch overhaul of our midfield but we'll see if it's what Van Gaal actually goes for.
 
PlayerOne said:
You're most likely correct, although I would imagine the players in Ogden's report are on LVG's list. It matches up with a few other reports.
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It does, which shows a common source, but I doubt that source is Van Gaal. Unless Van Gaal has taken a close look at Young and decided he's more 'total football' than Nani...
 
So, the possible targets we're being linked with right now are Shaw, Hummels, Strootman and possibly a host of other Dutch players like Blind, Indi, Clasie and Depay?

If we actually got those players it would be a pretty good summer, wouldn't it? Still wouldn't be totally convinced by our midfield options mind you...

Hopefully a few impressive targets come out of nowhere to pretty that list up a bit.
 
CantonaGiggs1 said:
For some reason I am really calm and not worried about transfers at all.

I think things will be so much better under van Gaal that if we didn't sign anyone, I wouldn't really care.

last summer was more stressful because I had zero confidence in Moyes and felt we needed someone like Ronaldo to withstand the Moyes factor.

Obviously we will sign someone, but I am not sweating it.
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That's how i feel, and LVG will get more out of the players that survive the cull and we'll have the right players in place come mid August! He knows what he's doing this guy.
 
I think the whole Van Gaal going after loads of dutch players is a lot of nonsense. He did it before at Barcelona yes, but the Dutch players he went for then were a much higher standard than the current lot.
 
Dont think we will go for as many dutch players as most on here believe. I think we got rejected by roos and fabregas as we have no champions league and are trying to save face. No one know the other targets and every one is throwing random names, just like under moyes (with everton players).
I think the only player who is sure to be a target is strootman. Kroos may come next year on a free (humongous contract) if we get champions league. Rest will all be potentially good players but young players. The talk of blind,clasie and janmaat(if you think rafa cant defend,we ll have fun with him) is all just talk to fill the columns.
I see our summer going this way
Shaw
Strootman
1 winger
1 midfielder (Holding)
1 Defender

I am very sure rooney/mata/kagawa will be the third midfielder used with rooney also rotating with RVP. Welbeck i expect with a role on the left, with a new winger/januzaj on the right. Carrick will rotate with the deep lying holding midfielder something like this
----------David de gea----------
-------jones---------evans------------
Rafa-------carrick/new mid------evra/shaw
----------strootman---rooney-----
adnan/winger-----------------welbeck/Nani
---------------van persie-----------------

If van persie is injured/Rotated Put rooney uptop with mata/kagawa as the third midfielder. I think we will be alright domestically and be in good shape to get 4 th spot. Then we have to build with superstar signings to replace carrick and the centre back positions.
 
mata10 said:
Dont think we will go for as many dutch players as most on here believe. I think we got rejected by roos and fabregas as we have no champions league and are trying to save face. No one know the other targets and every one is throwing random names, just like under moyes (with everton players).
I think the only player who is sure to be a target is strootman. Kroos may come next year on a free (humongous contract) if we get champions league. Rest will all be potentially good players but young players. The talk of blind,clasie and janmaat(if you think rafa cant defend,we ll have fun with him) is all just talk to fill the columns.
I see our summer going this way
Shaw
Strootman
1 winger
1 midfielder (Holding)
1 Defender

I am very sure rooney/mata/kagawa will be the third midfielder used with rooney also rotating with RVP. Welbeck i expect with a role on the left, with a new winger/januzaj on the right. Carrick will rotate with the deep lying holding midfielder something like this
----------David de gea----------
-------jones---------evans------------
Rafa-------carrick/new mid------evra/shaw
----------strootman---rooney-----
adnan/winger-----------------welbeck/Nani
---------------van persie-----------------

If van persie is injured/Rotated Put rooney uptop with mata/kagawa as the third midfielder. I think we will be alright domestically and be in good shape to get 4 th spot. Then we have to build with superstar signings to replace carrick and the centre back positions.
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Strootman is out till later this year with a cruciate (?) injury. So how will we get him without him being ready to even take a medical.
 
NK86 said:
Strootman is out till later this year with a cruciate (?) injury. So how will we get him without him being ready to even take a medical.
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We bought owen hargreaves with a broken leg and micheal owen. It doesnt really matter. Strootman will be back in october, may be that will play a part in us not buying him. My point though was that he is the only dutch player we should be buying.
Ever banega is an alternative to him, vidal will be out of reach and i cant really think of more box to box midfielders.
 
I think people here are not as convinced as I am that having no Champions League football next year will severly limit our ability to attract players despite the fact that "we are United". I think we'll shore up a couple of areas with players who are not yet stars, world class, whatever, look to finish at least 4th and qualify before signing a couple of "world class stars" next summer when we have the carrot every player needs.
 
mata10 said:
We bought owen hargreaves with a broken leg and micheal owen. It doesnt really matter. Strootman will be back in october, may be that will play a part in us not buying him. My point though was that he is the only dutch player we should be buying.
Ever banega is an alternative to him, vidal will be out of reach and i cant really think of more box to box midfielders.
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That's hardly a stellar endorsement.
 
mata10 said:
I am not endorsing this, i am just giving an example how we have signed injured players in the past.
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We also bought Anderson after he broke his leg too iirc. The problem with signing players with such injuries is they don't come back the same and it can lead to further injuries more frequently.
 
Lane said:
Yet, Moyes went for Everton's players. Now LVG goes dutch (or Munich player who he also knows). Many of those players are good and with a bright future. So i am open to the idea of Van Gaal bringing them here. And managers really knows them which is a plus. But it still feels extremely narrow and primitive.
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Mou went back to Chelsea and wanted Varane, Khedira and Modric right away.

Pep went to Barca, brought Thigao and wanted Neymar instead of Gotze (and who knows what else that was never released in public).

AVB was chasing Hulk and Mouthino when he signed for Spurs.

Point is, they're all the same..
 
I really don't get those of you wanting to get rid of Fletch. With a proper pre-season under his belt, who knows what level he'll be able to reach? Those now saying he'll never be half the player he once was are probably the same people who said he'll never play football again. You never ever write off a fcuker as gritty as Darren. The guy lives, eats and shits football and - if nothing else - his dedication sets an invaluable example for emerging youngsters and new signings alike. We've already lost three important carriers of the United culture since the end of the season, we should keep the remaining few.
 
Lane said:
So i am open to the idea of Van Gaal bringing them here. And managers really knows them which is a plus. But it still feels extremely narrow and primitive.
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Like real life, when you hire someone the only way you really know if they're the right person is if you've worked with them before.
 
pascell said:
We also bought Anderson after he broke his leg too iirc. The problem with signing players with such injuries is they don't come back the same and it can lead to further injuries more frequently.
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Wilshire, ramsey,roy keane, henrik larsen all had big injuries. Walcott has the same injury as strootman. I think it depends upon case to case. I do not advocate buying injured players, i just dont see anyone who will play the role lvg demands (in our squad). The only world class one is vidal, others will be at level lower than strootman.
 
English media are even worse than the German ones. You can tell that they have absolutely no clue about LvG's realistic targets. :lol:
 
Can someone please link me to the tweets translating Van Gaal's interview with the Dutch media after his appointment. :confused:

Thanks.
 
mata10 said:
Wilshire, ramsey,roy keane, henrik larsen all had big injuries. Walcott has the same injury as strootman. I think it depends upon case to case. I do not advocate buying injured players, i just dont see anyone who will play the role lvg demands (in our squad). The only world class one is vidal, others will be at level lower than strootman.
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The main problem with knee injuries are that they do tend to lose a bit of pace, which for a midfielder like Strootman isn't blessed is great pace is quite worrying. I hope van Gaal isn't putting all his eggs in one basket with Strootman because he alone isn't going to be good enough. We do need some of the same ilk as Fabregas to pull the strings and link our midfield to the attackers, also someone who scores goals and provides assists.

Some are saying Strootman will only be available in January after his injury which isn't great news if true neither. I'm hoping van Gaal has a few surprises up his sleeve with transfers.
 
pascell said:
The main problem with knee injuries are that they do tend to lose a bit of pace, which for a midfielder like Strootman isn't blessed is great pace is quite worrying. I hope van Gaal isn't putting all his eggs in one basket with Strootman because he alone isn't going to be good enough. We do need some of the same ilk as Fabregas to pull the strings and link our midfield to the attackers, also someone who scores goals and provides assists.

Some are saying Strootman will only be available in January after his injury which isn't great news if true neither. I'm hoping van Gaal has a few surprises up his sleeve with transfers.
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If you want fabregas, you will be very disappointed, why?
Well van gaal's system is of the utmost importance, he will not change his philosophy. He would have seen united have kagawa, mata, rooney all for that third midfielder in his system. It goes like this
1. A 6 Basically (kroos/carrick/martinez/busquet) type player who can pass the ball and make interceptions using his brains
2. The old school box to box midfielder(strootman/keane/yaya/vidal/fernandinho) This guy has to be physically very efficient and yet be technical enough to play.
3. The "10" attacking midfielder/second striker. United have a wealth of talent here, fabregas comes here, you wont see him coming.

For van gaal midfield is the most important, he has most of the time used the above type of midfield in all of his clubs. Its strootman's injury that takes van der vart or sniejder to the world cup. Van gaal isnt a fan of either players style. I guess you can see some of the traits of van gaal's team in early mourinho/guardiola
teams. the 3 in the middle of that chelsea team with two wingers and one striker was cleverly modfied from van gaal. I am not saying he will absolutely want a box to box player. Its his first preference. If he doesnt get one, he is flexible enough to change the player roles .
 
Carlsen19 said:
Has he actually? I'm asking that as a genuine question as I've never seen him play, in fact I hadn't even heard of him until last week when he made that assist for RVP.
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well honestly i havnt seem a load this season, but last season i caught a few feyenoord games here and thier and he lucked class then, he was acully suggested as a target last summer but he said he wanted to stay at feyenoord and develop for a another year.

he may have turned into an awful player this season, but then he also looked good againt ecuador a few weeks back.

he certainly one of only few realistic CM targets who might be good enough this summer
 
I think on day on which the media has nothing to write about United, it was easily preditcable every dutch talent get into the focus. I'm am less worrying about the fact we are linked with mediocre dutch players than no serious transfer targets are in advanced status.
 
Nytram Shakes said:
can't say i would be against this:
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...swoop-for-Jordy-Clasie-and-Bruno-Martins-Indi

in the express though so likly nonsense. but think they would be two decent signings.
clasie has looked good for a few years now, can't say i know much about indi thou?
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Oh come on...

I saw this article just now on a dutch football forum. Everybody on that forum was laughing their arse off, saying it had to be a pisstake because no way are those 2 players worth £30m. One Feynoord fan even said he would take them both on his back and swim them across the canal to Manchester for that kind of money. Most of them saying both of them aren't anywhere near good enough for top level in the PL and saying they would bite our hand off if we gave them £17m for the both. I was wondering how the caf would take this rumour, must say I didn't expect this however :lol:

No seriously Clasie is rated as a similar player to Cleverley with his head screwd on a bit beter, most people are saying he would do well for a team like Swansea or Villa but is far too limited to ever play at the top level in the PL. BMI is on a similar level. I don't think United should go anywhere near them, we should be aiming alot higher than that, if we'd get one of them it would only be justified as squad rotation players (and given our squad I'd hardly see the point) and no way are they worth £30m.
 
Carlsen19 said:
Has he actually? I'm asking that as a genuine question as I've never seen him play, in fact I hadn't even heard of him until last week when he made that assist for RVP.
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Nah he hasn't been. He's not progressed how most expected him to when he was a youngster and he's just a bit average all round really. Definitely wouldn't be an improvement on what we have & if he didn't assist the RvP goal the other day I doubt we'd even be linked to him. If everyone was fit for Holland he'd not even be going to the World Cup.
 
JaapStam1986 said:
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If Shaw, Reus, Hummels and Strootman come you can say our problem areas will be addressed, however it sounds like a team to get us into and not far beyond the top 4. Wed need an all out machine in the middle for that Vidal was the most ideal and would get people seriously excited, as much as I hope and prey for Reus, Id be surprised if we get him and Barca dont.

I also assume we may get Calsie as a squad player and perhaps Indy also. Which would be a good idea, Konoplyanka seems like a squad option too or a back up to Reus if that deal does eventually fall through.
 
red_7 said:
I think on day on which the media has nothing to write about United, it was easily preditcable every dutch talent get into the focus. I'm am less worrying about the fact we are linked with mediocre dutch players than no serious transfer targets are in advanced status.
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All I've learned so far this summer is that, as per usual, the press dont have a clue. They'd give their collective right arm to know who's really on LVG's summer shopping list, but all they can do is guess

I know this, but I still have to check NEWSNOW every couple of hours!!
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Oh come on...

I saw this article just now on a dutch football forum. Everybody on that forum was laughing their arse off, saying it had to be a pisstake because no way are those 2 players worth £30m. One Feynoord fan even said he would take them both on his back and swim them across the canal to Manchester for that kind of money. Most of them saying both of them aren't anywhere near good enough for top level in the PL and saying they would bite our hand off if we gave them £17m for the both. I was wondering how the caf would take this rumour, must say I didn't expect this however :lol:

No seriously Clasie is rated as a similar player to Cleverley with his head screwd on a bit beter, most people are saying he would do well for a team like Swansea or Villa but is far too limited to ever play at the top level in the PL. BMI is on a similar level. I don't think United should go anywhere near them, we should be aiming alot higher than that, if we'd get one of them it would only be justified as squad rotation players (and given our squad I'd hardly see the point) and no way are they worth £30m.
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aiming higher at who? a load of players who arnt going to join us this summer, so we end up hunting for scraps at the end of the window, it exacly the same argumnet hat was on every forum as last summer.

last summer everyone was saying stootman is not got enough we should be aiming higer, lets go for fabrega, de rossi..... and we end up with fellaini.

we should aim to be realistic and sign the best player we can, not live a teenagers wet dreams and spend the summer wasting our time to sign the best players from the best clubs in the world, becuase it not gonna happen.

Clasie is in the small number of midfilders who are probably available to us this summer and would improve us.
 
I doubt people here have ever watched Clasie play and yet he's supposedly going to improve us.
 
Nytram Shakes said:
aiming higher at who? a load of players who arnt going to join us this summer, so we end up hunting for scraps at the end of the window, it exacly the same argumnet hat was on every forum as last summer.

last summer everyone was saying stootman is not got enough we should be aiming higer, lets go for fabrega, de rossi..... and we end up with fellaini.

we should aim to be realistic and sign the best player we can, not live a teenagers wet dreams and spend the summer wasting our time to sign the best players from the best clubs in the world, becuase it not gonna happen.

Clasie is in the small number of midfilders who are probably available to us this summer and would improve us.
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He wouldn't improve us though that's the thing. Our squad's filled with enough average, we don't need more.
 
Nytram Shakes said:
aiming higher at who? a load of players who arnt going to join us this summer, so we end up hunting for scraps at the end of the window, it exacly the same argumnet hat was on every forum as last summer.

last summer everyone was saying stootman is not got enough we should be aiming higer, lets go for fabrega, de rossi..... and we end up with fellaini.

we should aim to be realistic and sign the best player we can, not live a teenagers wet dreams and spend the summer wasting our time to sign the best players from the best clubs in the world, becuase it not gonna happen.

Clasie is in the small number of midfilders who are probably available to us this summer and would improve us.
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You've got no idea whether the club are even interested in him. This could just be lazy journalism based on the fact that he is manager of Holland. Where will the press be getting this info? - because with a WC to prepare for I suspect Van Gaal isnt giving them it. The fact that we've been linked with about ten Dutch players since he was appointed tells you all you need to know. People putting two and two together and getting five.

And there is some rubbish being talked about players "not willing to join". Top players will come here - the club has money to spend and a top manager in charge. No need to panich buy second rate players.
 
Santos J said:
He wouldn't improve us though that's the thing. Our squad's filled with enough average, we don't need more.
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You are kidding yourself if you think our midfield options are average.

Our midfield dreams of being average.
 
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