Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?

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Based on current market rates for top players, I'd say we are about £250m off being a proper quality team.
 
The next couple of days are going to be hell. The loss today will just cause every media outlet to make up a rumour about us wanting a player for a panic buy.
 
This thread is just about this summer so I am not going to go into my wider concerns regarding the sticking plaster on midfield.

On the CB front I think Blind has done well despite today exposing him on some of the things I was concerned over with him in the role, between him and Rojo we should be able to manage this season and can assess the CB situation next summer, that is as long as we keep Smalling fit.

Keep De Gea, next summer get Leno or Karius.

The front 4 looks 3 players short to me, I have no idea how we are going to fix it but at least one forward has to be bought in the next 2 days. Martial seems a strong possibility but he's in the same boat as Memphis, he'll need time. We seemingly have no interest in Griezmann or Fekir so I guess we are going with Mata most weeks on the right.
 
After watching the first few games, I would say we need a goalkeeper, centre back and a striker.
 
Been saying it for a while, we need a bloody striker someone who can put the ball in the back of the net. With Chicha going its even more critical that we sign one. This is the dumbest thing van Gaal has done so far with United when he let RvP and Falcao go we should have immediately signed someone its such a basic mistake.
 
Mali_Zeus said:
Madness to let him go without gettins someone instead of him.
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We will sign someone if/when he goes i am certain of that, LvG cant be that daft. My problem is that we shouldnt have waited this long as soon as RvP/Falcao went we should have signed someone.
 
Van Gaal has said all summer he is happy with Rooney, Wilson, Hernandez and Fellaini. He said just the other week he spoke to Hernandez and said he is our second striker. Definitely seems a decision based on the performances against Newcastle and Brugge to sell him and get someone else in.
 
Hamadovich86 said:
We will sign someone if/when he goes i am certain of that, LvG cant be that daft. My problem is that we shouldnt have waited this long as soon as RvP/Falcao went we should have signed someone.
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Agree. We should have either keep RVP or get a new striker in after we let both of them go. Especially since LVG doesn't rate Chicharito.
 
Nothing has changed my mind on what we need and our start this year confirms it.

This year

RW, CB, CF, GK

next year

Another winger to add proper competition, A big name centre mid to compete with Herrera/Schweini and a big name attacking midfielder.
 
Ixion said:
Van Gaal has said all summer he is happy with Rooney, Wilson, Hernandez and Fellaini. He said just the other week he spoke to Hernandez and said he is our second striker. Definitely seems a decision based on the performances against Newcastle and Brugge to sell him and get someone else in.
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I thought Hernandez done ok in both those games when he came on. Fair enough he missed the chance one on one against Newcastle and the penalty against Brugge but going by that logic then Rooney should be going as well. His miss against Spurs that resulted in the own goal and then doing the same thing against Swansea yesterday when trailing 2-1, hes lost his confidence and composure. Signing Martial could be a genius move but I'm very sceptical.
 
Flicked on sky sports news there and it seems all the European windows close today at different times

De Gea has to go today if he's leaving - the problem for us is if we sell who is going to sell to us with hours left in the window?

We will probably end up with Navas
 
buckooo1978 said:
Flicked on sky sports news there and it seems all the European windows close today at different times

De Gea has to go today if he's leaving - the problem for us is if we sell who is going to sell to us with hours left in the window?

We will probably end up with Navas
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Not a bad replacement and definitely an upgrade on Romero
 
AbusementPark said:
Not a bad replacement and definitely an upgrade on Romero
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Our only other option would be to meet release clauses today and leave it to the players

I saw some people suggest moves for Leno - German window closes at 6 so I don't see Leverkusen going for a deal with no time to replace him

The striker issue is most crucial though - Surely with Hernandez leaving we have something close to being finalised

It's been a mess of a window in the end after a great July
 
buckooo1978 said:
Our only other option would be to meet release clauses today and leave it to the players

I saw some people suggest moves for Leno - German window closes at 6 so I don't see Leverkusen going for a deal with no time to replace him

The striker issue is most crucial though - Surely with Hernandez leaving we have something close to being finalised

It's been a mess of a window in the end after a great July
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Yea July was a great few weeks for players coming in, if we had got Pedro in I think we would have been ok for wingers and then maybe Berahino or Martial as backup striker. But now we face spending way over the odds for a player with great potential and perhaps might not make an impact right away.
 
We should have wrapped up Pedro instead of dragging our heels and as soon as Ramos signed the new contract we should have publically said DDG is not for sale at any price then spent the remainder of the window looking for a striker other than Muller. Hingsight is 20/20 though I suppose.
 
Any possibility that Coman going to Bayern will free up one of their players? Must be difficult to play all of Robben, Ribery, Muller, Gotze, Lewandowski plus Coman and Costa now.

Seems unlikely but they might cash in on Robben.
 
"Sign a Striker! Sign a Striker!"

Martial.

"We're paying too much! We're paying too much!".

Can't win. Who gives a feck how much we're paying for a massive up-and-coming player? Times have changed where the market will always be like this. Players in the last year of their contracts go for £20million+ these days if they're still in the first team.

Hernandez replacement - Done.
Januzaj leaving on loan - Possible replacement?
DDG possibly leaving finally - Possible replacement?
Blackett and Evans going - Possible replacement?

We may have a busy couple of days ahead!
 
Van Gaalacticos said:
Any possibility that Coman going to Bayern will free up one of their players? Must be difficult to play all of Robben, Ribery, Muller, Gotze, Lewandowski plus Coman and Costa now.

Seems unlikely but they might cash in on Robben.
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Lewy and Müller have 2 positions in the middle of the pitch (sometimes just one - but Guardiola lately plays with 4 offensives - Lewy as striker, Müller plays all over the pitch depending on the tactics) - Götze is the rotation player for that.

Robben and Ribery have injury problems, some even doubt that Ribery comes back at all, so it is Costa and Robben on both wings + a youngster Coman who gets minutes.

No - there is no problem at all...
 
jderbyshire said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/man-united-transfer-tool-choose-6310707

Has anyone seen this 'Man United Transfer Tool' on The Mirror?

It's pretty funny to be fair, despite coming from the people who think 'De Donut' is genius.

Pick a transfer target and it tells you who we would eventually sign -

eg. I chose Muller, and it said "You're getting Adebayor! Pleasure doing business with you!"
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Problem with the tool is it is the media that say we are after X, Y and Z. I do not believe United have been open with our targets. Therefore the media create a situation where United look like they are being turned down, snubbed. or are panic buying, when in reality we probably have got everyone we were after.
 
That window is kind of weird. It began really great. We signed Memphis already before July, added 3 players before the tour. All 4 great players in positions we need for good fees, you can't expect much more. It was brilliant business and a perfect month and that alone makes sure that this window won't be a bad one because we have fixed a lot of weaknesses. But then the August was just a bit of a mess to be honest.
I can't blame anyone for Di Maria, I am pretty sure we tried our best to make it work with him, but he didn't want to fight and took the easy way out, we got at least a huge fee after his disappointing year. Still we had enough time to add another attacking player as replacement, Pedro was of course the obvious one and available. Some other players outthere too, who are not easy gettable, but where we could tried a push for a move (Griezmann or if we are already in France maybe Fekir or Lacazette.) We sold Evans and Chicha now, which was obvious and fine for me at the beginning of the window, now I just get a feeling that we could be a little bit light on CB and striker positions and with those players already out we brought us in a more difficult situation. The Rojo rumours were bullshit thankfully, but we couldn't offload him now of course, maybe we could have used Chicha in a monaco deal too, but he was already out, which forces us to pay over the odds now on another attacking player.
The whole De Gea drama is a bit shit too. Also here the club made the right things at the beginning, make it clear that we want proper money or they can feck off. Then we dropped him and made it even more dramatic. Now it seems like we are not sure if we would play him if he stays, which is bullshit and it seems like we could sell him now on the last day. Also here it's now huge pressure on us, a swap deal with Navas is probably the best we can hope for. Otherwise we have to stick with what we have (which is not good enough) or pay over the odds for a not-so-good-replacement. Candidates like Leno and others were available before I am pretty sure and will be the next window, so I hope we will keep Dave in the end. I am ok that we didn't add another CB, our defence looks solid so far, with hopefully De Gea back, 2 proper fullbacks and more protection from midfield we should be fine. Hummels was our main candidate, but didn't want to leave this season. He still has only 2 years left on his contract and maybe we will come back next year, better to wait and sign a quality man like him than signing someone for the sake of it. Same with Laporte, signed a new contract and is still very young, should wait at least another year. That's the 2 standout candidates for LvGs system imo. Stones price is ridiculous and it seems like Everton will stay strong, fee for Otamendi wasn't much better and he doesn't look like a van Gaal defender at all. We tried our best for Ramos, but that was never going to happen. That's pretty much it, Godin and Varane maybe, who would make me happy too, but both not available either. Everyone else wouldn't be upgrade and I am fine that we are waiting for real quality here. For attacking players it's a bit different imo, because there are just much more options, we don't need to concentrate only on Müller or Bale, if there are so many other great players outthere who would improve or could help us and also in difference to our defence our attack really doesn't look good so far.

Let's see what will happen in the next hours, Martial could be a exciting man for the future and I hope we keep Dave. I don't expect much more and I don't think anyone can really say it has been a bad window. It would have been much better for most people if the July was our bad month and we wrapped up all of our signings in August to end it on a positive note, but then there would be the usual "We are not prepared, panic buy because we are underwhelming in the league, bla bla....." type of comments. For all the blame I also have to say De Gea and Di Maria made things for van Gaal and the rest of the staff much more difficult. It seems like we tried our best to get Dave a new contract and make it work with Angel, but they instead decided to acting like cnuts and made a mess out of it. Without those dramas it could have been a great transfer window imo.
 
Attack outgoing......


Di Maria
Van Persie
Hernandez
Januzaj
Falcao
Nani


Attack incomings......

Memphis (unproven)
Martial (unproven)

6 experienced players left 2 unproven players brought in

Goalkeepers outgoing........

De gea (maybe)
Valdes
Lindegaard (maybe)

Goalkeeper incoming.....

Romero (awful for a 1st choice gk)
2nd choice will be Johnstone (unproven, youth player)

3 keepers leaving, one of those top 3 in the world, romero who couldn't even get a game at sampdoria is now our number 1 with the really experienced johnstone as back up.


How can anyone consider this window to be successful.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
Attack outgoing......


Di Maria
Van Persie
Hernandez
Januzaj
Falcao
Nani


Attack incomings......

Memphis (unproven)
Martial (unproven)

6 experienced players left 2 unproven players brought in

Goalkeepers outgoing........

De gea (maybe)
Valdes
Lindegaard (maybe)

Goalkeeper incoming.....

Romero (awful for a 1st choice gk)
2nd choice will be Johnstone (unproven, youth player)

3 keepers leaving, one of those top 3 in the world, romero who couldn't even get a game at sampdoria is now our number 1 with the really experienced johnstone as back up.


How can anyone consider this window to be successful.
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Yeah if you look only at the negatives it doesn't look good. First De Gea and Januzaj are still here, let's see if they go or not. Anyone except Adnan and Di Maria is deadwood in the attacking department and it was the right move to get rid. You could say Martial is the player to replace Di Maria plus Memphis too. If Adnan leaves too I agree we could add another one, but it's not that dramatic at all. It's not like those players contributed a lot to our team last season. If De Gea leaves we will add another goalkeeper, no doubt about that, Romero is the replacement for Valdes, so not a big drama here either. If we let Adnan or De Gea leave without a replacement it looks a bit worse, but we shouldn't act like that's a a fact right now.
We also brought our midfield to a new level and fixed a obvious weakness in RB with one of the most promising fullbacks in Europe. If our injury record stays like it is right now, then that's one of the most important improvements overall and we will be in a much better position anyway even with the same squad as last year. So I stick with you can't call that window bad, it was pretty much perfect business in July and then we messed up the August a bit, but overall it isn't bad at all and teams have barely a perfect window where you fix everything, especially if you have as much to fix as our team.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
"Sign a Striker! Sign a Striker!"

Martial.

"We're paying too much! We're paying too much!".

Can't win. Who gives a feck how much we're paying for a massive up-and-coming player? Times have changed where the market will always be like this. Players in the last year of their contracts go for £20million+ these days if they're still in the first team.

Hernandez replacement - Done.
Januzaj leaving on loan - Possible replacement?
DDG possibly leaving finally - Possible replacement?
Blackett and Evans going - Possible replacement?

We may have a busy couple of days ahead!
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Tottenham wanted to buy Martial at the start of the window iirc. Monaco asked for around 20m. There is no way his value nearly doubled in that timespan. We certainly are paying too much.
 
LuessiT said:
Tottenham wanted to buy Martial at the start of the window iirc. Monaco asked for around 20m. There is no way his value nearly doubled in that timespan. We certainly are paying too much.
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Weren't Spurs offering 20m and they rejected it? Chelsea and Barca were offering 40m a few weeks ago and they rejected it, saying he's not for sale. Now that they got knocked out of the champions league, they had a price of 50m apparently. Or whatever we got him for. But they rejected 40m for him from Chelsea already so we had no choice but to overspend.
 
LuessiT said:
Tottenham wanted to buy Martial at the start of the window iirc. Monaco asked for around 20m. There is no way his value nearly doubled in that timespan. We certainly are paying too much.
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#1 How do we know how much they asked for? Because some papers said so.
#2 Maybe that's what Spurs offered - hence rejected.

I don't deny it's a little bit excessive, but who gives a damn. We're strengthening a position that we're in dire need of quality.
 
Pyroblazer said:
Yeah if you look only at the negatives it doesn't look good. First De Gea and Januzaj are still here, let's see if they go or not. Anyone except Adnan and Di Maria is deadwood in the attacking department and it was the right move to get rid. You could say Martial is the player to replace Di Maria plus Memphis too. If Adnan leaves too I agree we could add another one, but it's not that dramatic at all. It's not like those players contributed a lot to our team last season. If De Gea leaves we will add another goalkeeper, no doubt about that, Romero is the replacement for Valdes, so not a big drama here either. If we let Adnan or De Gea leave without a replacement it looks a bit worse, but we shouldn't act like that's a a fact right now.
We also brought our midfield to a new level and fixed a obvious weakness in RB with one of the most promising fullbacks in Europe. If our injury record stays like it is right now, then that's one of the most important improvements overall and we will be in a much better position anyway even with the same squad as last year. So I stick with you can't call that window bad, it was pretty much perfect business in July and then we messed up the August a bit, but overall it isn't bad at all and teams have barely a perfect window where you fix everything, especially if you have as much to fix as our team.
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Well I think januzaj and De Gea are certainties to be leaving, I wasn't RVP biggest fan but at least he would guarentee 10 goals a season still, nani I would've liked to have given him a chance at 28 he still has a few years to give something he would've got few goals but more assists plus he would add the much needed pace and ability to beat a man that nobody else seems to be able to do. Hernandez is a very good goal poacher and its a mistake selling him. He is a very good option to have come off the bench

De gea probably will be leaving but he's so good any keeper we bring in will be a downgrade, I guess we will have to get used to that. We've left it too late to get anyone half decent like lloris or leno so we will have to make do with distinctly average keeper like cillesen

our whole defence (not sure about Darmian injury record) but the rest are walking wounded with them it's a matter of when not if they get an injury and if rooney gets injured (which could actually be a blessing) then we only have wilson or martial to be our main striker.

LVG has had such a long time to get in what we need but he hasn't and now we are panic buying, it's like moyes first window all over again and we all know how that ended up. Overpaying fellaini's release clause when we could've for him cheaper a few weeks before. What's more annoying is the fact otemendi and Pedro were both avaliable for a decent price yet LVG ignored them.

We will see what this next day throws up because it's sure to be exciting for United I hope anyway becuase if we don't bring in anyone but martial 4th place will be tough.
 
Pyroblazer said:
Yeah if you look only at the negatives it doesn't look good. First De Gea and Januzaj are still here, let's see if they go or not. Anyone except Adnan and Di Maria is deadwood in the attacking department and it was the right move to get rid. You could say Martial is the player to replace Di Maria plus Memphis too. If Adnan leaves too I agree we could add another one, but it's not that dramatic at all. It's not like those players contributed a lot to our team last season. If De Gea leaves we will add another goalkeeper, no doubt about that, Romero is the replacement for Valdes, so not a big drama here either. If we let Adnan or De Gea leave without a replacement it looks a bit worse, but we shouldn't act like that's a a fact right now.
We also brought our midfield to a new level and fixed a obvious weakness in RB with one of the most promising fullbacks in Europe. If our injury record stays like it is right now, then that's one of the most important improvements overall and we will be in a much better position anyway even with the same squad as last year. So I stick with you can't call that window bad, it was pretty much perfect business in July and then we messed up the August a bit, but overall it isn't bad at all and teams have barely a perfect window where you fix everything, especially if you have as much to fix as our team.
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We fixed 3 positions - CM - 2 spots and RB - 1 spot. We've weakened 4 or 5- GK, ST, Winger x 2 , CB(needs strengthening either way, sold Evans, loaned Blackett, yes they are not good but we didn't bring in anyone just chased shadows all summer).

So yeah, not a good bit of business overall?
 
Something is up. Januzaj gone on loan and now Wilson seems like he's off. Surely someone else is coming into the side.
 
I guess LvG really does like a small squad the way things are going.

Seriously though we must be bringing in more attacking players.
 
What's the size of our squad now, excluding non established first team players? It's really low isn't it?
We don't have enough attackers and we're not exactly packed in centre defense.
 
Well we'll be needing another 2 attacking players and a keeper once the realization the Flapas is not suited to the PL sets in.
 
So could we line up something like this (as this stand):?

--------------------------Navas-------------------------
Darmian---------Smalling---------Blind---------Shaw
-------------Schweinstegier-----Schneiderlin---------
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Martial-----------------Rooney---------------Memphis


If that clicks it could be special, although likely the wingers will need most of the season to adapt, Blind will ultimately get exposed, and Rooney might have just gone too far over the hill, the hopes back though.
 
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