Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?

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I hope de gea stays but if he wants to go to Real Madrid I think this is what we need to do .

IN
BALE ... (De gea swap plus whatever money)
HUMMELLS (to partner smalling)
DEPAY
POGBA
CECH
NEW RB

OUT
DI MARIA (not settled flog to psg)
FALCAO
EVANS
RAFAEL
 
Yeah De Gea and Di Maria out and spend 200 million on Bale and Pogba, that's how you build a team, I really can't understand it :wenger:

Keep the team together of course, we shouldn't get rid of any useful player. Not Di Maria and I would rather lose De Gea on a free than selling him this summer, keep the core, add the right signings and build up a momentum for next year, another "6 in, 10 out" season won't do us anything good. Evans, Rafael and Falcao will leave and then we need 4 signings. A CB, if Hummels is possible, get him, otherwise Laporte or Godin if they are available, one of them would be great and that's our big signing.
Clyne as RB would do it for me. CM is difficult, but I don't think Pogba is likely or the right type of CM anyway, Schneiderlin would be great and underrated signing imo. Depay is a no-brainer too and that's it. Then you can add maybe a young exctiing striker like Lacazette, Dybala or Vietto and that would be a fanstastic window. We would have spend less or only the same money for those 5 signings than for Bale and Pogba together and it would be much better for the team. We don't need 11 superstars and sign young, trophy-hungry players, who are on their way to world class should be the way to go and not giving Real Madrid the money for their next superstar signing. And with Hummels you would still have a kind of "superstar signing" in a position where we really need it rather than signing another fancy attacker and hoping that he will save us in a lot of games.
Bayern has build the arguably best squad in the world with this way and not the "Real Madrid way".

A team with De Gea (if he signs a new contract), Laporte, Shaw, Clyne, Januzaj, Wilson, Dybala/Lacazette/Vietto, Depay for example would be more exciting for me than any superstar we could sign, because it would be a brilliant foundation for the future and could end up in having a brilliant team for years to come. That doesn't mean we shouldn't sign world class players if they are available, but there is no need to make a desperate 100 million euro signing, Bayern and Chelsea are doing this signings for good value and for players who really want to come rather than signing a player, who has just won the CL and doesn't want to be here anyway for a club record fee. But hey it worked already once, so let's do it again.
 
I'd say we need

Right Back
Centre Back
Deep lying playmaker or box to box midfielder
Striker
 
Hope people think about how LvG wants us to play before they start throwing names around.
 
bishblaize said:
I'd say we need

Right Back
Centre Back
Deep lying playmaker or box to box midfielder
Striker
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Do people actually think we'll see any real difference between Rafael and Valancia and say Clyne? Surely a Hummels for now and we are good to go with what we already have. And Dani Alves is no where near a young Rafa for me! Unless we are losing RVP which I seriously doubt Its hard to justify a striker either this summer as fingers crossed we'll stick to playing just one.
 
RedorDead21 said:
Do people actually think we'll see any real difference between Rafael and Valancia and say Clyne? Surely a Hummels for now and we are good to go with what we already have. And Dani Alves is no where near a young Rafa for me! Unless we are losing RVP which I seriously doubt Its hard to justify a striker either this summer as fingers crossed we'll stick to playing just one.
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There's two problems with Rafael. One is his injury record, which doesn't seem to be settling down. He's 24 already so he should be past growing pains.

Secondly is that he's only had one really outstanding season, and that was two years ago. All the seasons before that he was patchy but improving, and since then he's just been plain patchy. I can understand why people might want to give him another chance, since he was excellent in 12-13, but I wouldn't say his form since Fergie left earns him the right to go into next season as a first choice player.

As for Valencia, no-one can seriously consider him as a right back, as creditable as his performances have been this season.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
@Balu

Is there any genuine feeling in Germany that Hummels will come to United?
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@Sphaero probably knows more about that. I'd say so far no one in Germany takes the rumours regarding Hummels to United seriously. Dortmund's director of football laughed it off last week in an interview as well.

Personally, I'm not so sure anymore. We might see a bigger rebuild in Dortmund over the summer than most people (including me) expect and maybe it's time for Hummels to go somewhere else. Last year I was 100% sure that he won't leave, at the moment I'd say it's 75:25 that he stays. He seems to me like the type of player, who won't run away after a bad year, at least not from a club he clearly is emotionally connected to. But then, he clearly has lapses of concentration, more than he should have, and it could be because of a lack of motivation at the moment. If that's true, then United might be exactly the challenge he needs and a move would benefit both him and Dortmund.

I expect Subotic to leave though. He has only one year left on his contract and I haven't read anything about him being interested to extend his contract.
 
bishblaize said:
There's two problems with Rafael. One is his injury record, which doesn't seem to be settling down. He's 24 already so he should be past growing pains.

Secondly is that he's only had one really outstanding season, and that was two years ago. All the seasons before that he was patchy but improving, and since then he's just been plain patchy. I can understand why people might want to give him another chance, since he was excellent in 12-13, but I wouldn't say his form since Fergie left earns him the right to go into next season as a first choice player.

As for Valencia, no-one can seriously consider him as a right back, as creditable as his performances have been this season.
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I can seriously consider him as a right back if he continues to be a) Always Fit and b) showing real progress in the role this season. It means we could be in line for Clyne on a free the following summer if it doesnt work out. Right Back isnt perfect perhaps but its just about our 5th priority right now for me.
 
Balu said:
@Sphaero probably knows more about that. I'd say so far no one in Germany takes the rumours regarding Hummels to United seriously. Dortmund's director of football laughed it off last week in an interview as well.

Personally, I'm not so sure anymore. We might see a bigger rebuild in Dortmund over the summer than most people (including me) expect and maybe it's time for Hummels to go somewhere else. Last year I was 100% sure that he won't leave, at the moment I'd say it's 75:25 that he stays. He seems to me like the type of player, who won't run away after a bad year, at least not from a club he clearly is emotionally connected to. But then, he clearly has lapses of concentration, more than he should have, and it could be because of a lack of motivation at the moment. If that's true, then United might be exactly the challenge he needs and a move would benefit both him and Dortmund.

I expect Subotic to leave though. He has only one year left on his contract and I haven't read anything about him being interested to extend his contract.
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I used to think Subotic was better am I insane for thinking that...
 
Balu said:
Different type of defender and certainly not better since he came back after he tore his acl in 2013.
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Ah ok we are going back to their heady champs League days so perhaps that explains it. How is Gundogan coming on these days see he is back in the International fold?
 
RedorDead21 said:
Ah ok we are going back to their heady champs League days so perhaps that explains it. How is Gundogan coming on these days see he is back in the International fold?
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He had a few promising games. It seems like his back doesn't cause problems anymore, but he's still far away from his 12/13 form.
 
Line-up assuming Rafael leaves:

GK: De Gea.
RB: Danilo or Clyne.
LB: Shaw.
CD: Otamendi or Hummels & Smalling or Rojo.
DM: Carrick/Blind.
CM: Herrera/Di Maria & Fellaini/Pogba or Schneiderlin.
LW: Depay, Reus or De Bruyne.
RW: Mata.
CF: Rooney.

Other squad players:

GK: Valdes.
LB: Rojo/Blind/James.
RB: Valencia.
CD: Jones/McNair.
CM: Pereira.
W: Young/Januzaj.
A: Wilson & RvP if he accepts being a sub, otherwise: Lacazette, Dybala or Vietto.

4-5 new signings.

Sell/Let go of: Falcao, Hernandez, Nani, Rafael, Evans, Lindegaard, Henriquez, Cleverley (RvP & Powell).

8-10 out.

Squad size: 22 (give youngsters the chance when needed).

To much to ask for?
 
The Stain said:
Line-up assuming Rafael leaves:

GK: De Gea.
RB: Danilo or Clyne.
LB: Shaw.
CD: Otamendi or Hummels & Smalling or Rojo.
DM: Carrick/Blind.
CM: Herrera/Di Maria & Fellaini/Pogba or Schneiderlin.
LW: Depay, Reus or De Bruyne.
RW: Mata.
CF: Rooney.

Other squad players:

GK: Valdes.
LB: Rojo/Blind/James.
RB: Valencia.
CD: Jones/McNair.
CM: Pereira.
W: Young/Januzaj.
A: Wilson & RvP if he accepts being a sub, otherwise: Lacazette, Dybala or Vietto.

4-5 new signings.

Sell/Let go of: Falcao, Hernandez, Nani, Rafael, Evans, Lindegaard, Henriquez, Cleverley (RvP & Powell).

8-10 out.

Squad size: 22 (give youngsters the chance when needed).

To much to ask for?
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I can see huge benefit to selling fellaini if it means we bring in 2 CMS ala Schneiderlin and Pogba/Veratti.
 
RedorDead21 said:
I can see huge benefit to selling fellaini if it means we bring in 2 CMS ala Schneiderlin and Pogba/Veratti.
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Schneiderlin
Herrera - Pogba

Future midfield :drool:. Verratti is a good shout, he just seems too rash but he'll probably grow out of that.
 
We are still in a difficult scenario. Our most expensive signing ever - and our currently only dribbler - is played out of position. We then have RVP and Falcao on monster salaries looking very unlikely to every be worth what they're currently earning. Not that Rooney is worth his salaries either for that matter.

Blind/Carrick don't have the ability to allow Herrera and Di Maria play together while playing a composed possession game.

Mata showed some great signs lately, but having Di Maria on one side and Mata on the other is never going to work unless we get a very free striker who is a great dribbler and can make runs out wide too and interchange.

Of course, Rooney is a big part of the team at this stage and shouldn't necessarily be pushed out as he's been one of the better.

Hard to make any realistic first XI where we don't go a bit too extreme and sell or bench some very big stars. Maybe the least extreme option would be to have Herrera step one step deeper next to Blind/Carrick with Di Maria in the head of the triangle.


----Herrera--Carrick
Mata---Di Maria---Nani
---------Rooney--------

Or

Di Maria---Mata------Nani
-----------Rooney---------
 
RedorDead21 said:
Do people actually think we'll see any real difference between Rafael and Valancia and say Clyne? Surely a Hummels for now and we are good to go with what we already have. And Dani Alves is no where near a young Rafa for me! Unless we are losing RVP which I seriously doubt Its hard to justify a striker either this summer as fingers crossed we'll stick to playing just one.
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Clyne is a much better RB than Valencia and isn't injured all the time like Rafael. Can't keep hoping Rafael will stay fit, we'll end up with Valencia at RB too much and he will make costly mistakes
 
I'd be very happy with this squad for next year:

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I reckon Clyne and Depay are very realistic.

Hummels less so but possible. Not sure how many top class centre backs are out there and wouldn't be too worried if we went into next season with what we have.

Kane is probably impossible but I'd like to see Van Persie and Falcao move on, with a young talented striker coming in to compliment Rooney and Wilson.
 
soap said:
Clyne is a much better RB than Valencia and isn't injured all the time like Rafael.
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Having just done a lengthy Squawka analysis, there is very little evidence to support your notion. What exactly is Clyne better at because I sure can't see it in the stats ? His pass completion rate is 78% compared to Valencia's 89% so he is giving the ball away twice as often. Valencia may be a very dull right-back but he outperforms Clyne in terms of creativity (assists, key passes and chances created) while being far superior at retaining possession. Valencia's error count this season consists of gifting Welbeck a goal and not much after that. I seem to recall in the build up to one goal he was playing someone onside by keeping a deeper line than the rest of the defence. Contrast that with Shaw who has made a long list of errors including getting sent off, conceding a stupid penalty, being at fault for several goals etc.

The idea that Clyne is superior is just laughable if you study their respective stats.
 
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I am looking foward to this summer's transfer window already.
While we all enjoyed last summers activity it did feel to me that some of the signings were made without a lot of thought which is understandable given the length of time LVG had after the world cup to asses his squad etc.
This year however, with LVG having a year to view our squad more deeply i think we will still probably spend around 100mil, but on around 3 or 4 players of genuine quality.

If i were LVG i would be looking at Schneiderlin Dybala and Marquinhos as priorities and against some peoples opinion i would definately sign Dani Alves on a free for a short term solution at right back. I feel these signings would give us a complete squad that has a bit of everything.

DDG
Valdez

Dani alvez - Marquinhos - Rojo - Blind
Valencia - Jones - Smalling - Shaw

Herrera - Schneiderlin - Di Maria
Fellaini - Carrick - Perriera

Mata - Rooney - Dybala
Januzaj - RVP - Young

I expect this team would/should challenge for the title and do reasonably well in Europe
 
In:
Begovic
Clyne
Varane
Pogba
Veratti
De Bruyne
Bale
Kane/Lacazette/Icardi/Dybala

Out:
DDG
Lindegard
Evans
Blackette
Cleverley
Nani
Young
Chicharito
Falcao
RvP
 
Why do people expect loads in and loads out?

It will be max 4 in and about 3 out imo.

Hummels Clyne Schneoderlin and Depay in maybe.
 
kundalini said:
Having just done a lengthy Squawka analysis, there is very little evidence to support your notion. What exactly is Clyne better at because I sure can't see it in the stats ? His pass completion rate is 78% compared to Valencia's 89% so he is giving the ball away twice as often. Valencia may be a very dull right-back but he outperforms Clyne in terms of creativity (assists, key passes and chances created) while being far superior at retaining possession. Valencia's error count this season consists of gifting Welbeck a goal and not much after that. I seem to recall in the build up to one goal he was playing someone onside by keeping a deeper line than the rest of the defence. Contrast that with Shaw who has made a long list of errors including getting sent off, conceding a stupid penalty, being at fault for several goals etc.

The idea that Clyne is superior is just laughable if you study their respective stats.
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Or just watch the football on the field and study that instead. Best, most enjoyable way, I reckon.

Shaw hasn't been at fault for several goals either.
 
SiRed said:
I am looking foward to this summer's transfer window already.
While we all enjoyed last summers activity it did feel to me that some of the signings were made without a lot of thought which is understandable given the length of time LVG had after the world cup to asses his squad etc.
This year however, with LVG having a year to view our squad more deeply i think we will still probably spend around 100mil, but on around 3 or 4 players of genuine quality.

If i were LVG i would be looking at Schneiderlin Dybala and Marquinhos as priorities and against some peoples opinion i would definately sign Dani Alves on a free for a short term solution at right back. I feel these signings would give us a complete squad that has a bit of everything.

DDG
Valdez

Dani alvez - Marquinhos - Rojo - Blind
Valencia - Jones - Smalling - Shaw

Herrera - Schneiderlin - Di Maria
Fellaini - Carrick - Perriera

Mata - Rooney - Dybala
Januzaj - RVP - Young

I expect this team would/should challenge for the title and do reasonably well in Europe
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I know that it's not nice to do that but, Marquinhos re-signed this week and Di Maria isn't a CM in a possession team.
 
SiRed said:
Is this fantasy or what you genuinley believe as possible?
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I guess I should've prefaced it by saying that its just wishful thinking which is far easier than trying to figure out who we can "realistically" get.
 
Hamadovich86 said:
In:
Begovic
Clyne
Varane
Pogba
Veratti
De Bruyne
Bale
Kane/Lacazette/Icardi/Dybala

Out:
DDG
Lindegard
Evans
Blackette
Cleverley
Nani
Young
Chicharito
Falcao
RvP
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Why would you sell Young? He's been one of our best performers this season.
 
Danilo (£25m)
Hummels (£30m)
Pogba/Veratti (£50m)
Depay (£25m)

Out

Falcao (Free)
Evans (£8m)
Nani (£15m)
Chich (£15m)
 
Acole9 said:
He'd still be a useful squad player which is pretty much what he is at the moment.
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I would still sell Young. In my crazy ass scenario we'd have Bale, Di Maria and De Bruyne thats crazy firepower on the wings. Young and Valencia would be expendable in this scenario and I think we'd more money off of selling Young so yeah i'd sell him.
 
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