Manchester United Sign Anthony Martial!

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Sorry lads, sky sports pulled his fm stats yesterday, hes shite....
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Not to derail the thread, but ADM left because of ADM. He only came to United because of FFP and left as soon as he got the chance. There's no way Fergie would have tolerated that kind of behaviour from a player.

Back on topic, hope that we do eventually pay the 80 million Euros that all our opposition fans seem to want to claim we paid for him. Top scorer four years in a row and World Player of the Year? That'd be worth 80 million :D

Fergie would have put his arm round ADM and looked after him, he knew continental players needed more love. No way to know whether he'd have left anyway but it does sound like LvGs management style may have contributed, it is what it is he's a hard man to please and doesn't cover it.
 
One: It's a €48m base fee. Two: City just spent €66m on a player only one year older.

Such is the market.
I think people should stop defending the new signings fee! It is a fecking expensive signing for an unknown with just potential and little experience in top flight football nor scoring experience.

It's like paying a Lamborghini price for a concept car and start raving about it without even test driving it yet. You've only watched what this concept car did on telly!
 
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Not to derail the thread, but ADM left because of ADM. He only came to United because of FFP and left as soon as he got the chance. There's no way Fergie would have tolerated that kind of behaviour from a player.

Back on topic, hope that we do eventually pay the 80 million Euros that all our opposition fans seem to want to claim we paid for him. Top scorer four years in a row and World Player of the Year? That'd be worth 80 million :D
There is no way Fergie would have let ADM go in the awkward circumstances LvG created. He would have made him play to his potential and if not still would try to make him feel more at home and contribute to his team

ADM under Fergie would never behaved that way and fexk off going AWOL in the first place!
 
I agree. I think we should also offer an extra 25% bonus to Monaco for letting us have Martial for peanuts.
No, I mean I hope we end up paying all the add ons because that will mean we've won the league, champions league and Martial has scored a load of goals and won WPOTY
 
I can't believe Sky do this. It's embarassing.
I haven't actually witnessed them talking about it yet :/

Its more halarious than embarrassing now though, they've made the transition to being a complete joke now
 
Not sure was this posted already, have only checked this page.

A break down of his fee for SportsJoe.ie

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The fee for Anthony Martial could rise to £58m (€78.7m) if he goes on to become one of the world's best players.
The French striker secured his deadline day move from Monaco, on Tuesday, and United will pay £22m up front.

The Premier League club will then pay £3.5m over the next four years - adding up to £36m (€48.8m).

However, according to French broadcaster RMC, an additional €30m of add-ons could make the 19-year-old United's second most expensive signing of all time [Angel Di Maria cost £59.7m].

Monaco could bank another €5m each time Martial finishes the Premier League as top scorer - to a maximum of €15m.

There is another potential €10m if Martial wins the Balon D'or while he is with United.

More realistically - for now - Martial's former club will get €5m extra if the striker wins the Golden Boy. That award is given to the best player in Europe under 21 and decided by a host of top European football journalists.

Previous winners of the award while at United - Wayne Rooney in 2003 and Anderson in 2008.
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£22m sounds much better.

Also with all those addons Monaco must really rate this guy.
 
idk why Van Gaal is so preferential to Rooney. Lots of managers make decisions that I can't understand and don't work for them. Van Gaal has made a whole raft of them already like the 5-3-2 disaster, misuse of Herrera, moving Di Maria away from his best position etc.

Citing RvP as an example of Van Gaal being ruthless is interesting because last season RvP was also terrible and yet we persisted with him as our main centre forward until he got injured. For all we know the same thing could happen with Rooney this season, he will be picked every week regardless of performances and then an injury or suspension will force Van Gaal to pick someone else and Rooney ends up sold next summer.

It was no 'disaster'. We got good results using that formation especially with carrick in the team. It was used because we were defensively weaker in a back 4 as was evidenced by our Everton west brom and west ham games. Not to mention we had injuries to our actual full backs Shaw and Rafael(even blind was out after an intl break) so had to play young and Valencia as wing backs. It was a good system where we grinded out results beating arsenal Liverpool an all on the way. It wasn't brilliant or incredibly exciting or anything but disaster? Not even close.

What exactly is Di Maria's best position? He played all his career at Madrid as a winger save a season where bale came where he played a CM. he plays a winger for Argentina too. Save 2-3 games where we played him as a second striker we played him almost always in the wings.
 
Sorry lads, sky sports pulled his fm stats yesterday, hes shite....
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That is ridicolous! How can they use data from FM15 that is a year old!?

I like to keep FM updated myself by using the FM editor, and the data from my current game looks nothing like Sky Sports.

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Not sure was this posted already, have only checked this page.

A break down of his fee for SportsJoe.ie

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The fee for Anthony Martial could rise to £58m (€78.7m) if he goes on to become one of the world's best players.
The French striker secured his deadline day move from Monaco, on Tuesday, and United will pay £22m up front.

The Premier League club will then pay £3.5m over the next four years - adding up to £36m (€48.8m).

However, according to French broadcaster RMC, an additional €30m of add-ons could make the 19-year-old United's second most expensive signing of all time [Angel Di Maria cost £59.7m].

Monaco could bank another €5m each time Martial finishes the Premier League as top scorer - to a maximum of €15m.

There is another potential €10m if Martial wins the Balon D'or while he is with United.

More realistically - for now - Martial's former club will get €5m extra if the striker wins the Golden Boy. That award is given to the best player in Europe under 21 and decided by a host of top European football journalists.

Previous winners of the award while at United - Wayne Rooney in 2003 and Anderson in 2008.
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£22m sounds much better.

Also with all those addons Monaco must really rate this guy.

I'm no expert on transfer fee add ons (to put it mildly!) but I think the more usual structure would be payments based on bonuses or team success. Seems unusual to have so much additonal payments based on spectacular individual success. Monaco seem to be taking quite the gamble here (appropriately enough) but also must have supreme confidence in his ability. Which is good to see.
 
I'm no expert on transfer fee add ons (to put it mildly!) but I think the more usual structure would be payments based on bonuses or team success. Seems unusual to have so much additonal payments based on spectacular individual success. Monaco seem to be taking quite the gamble here (appropriately enough) but also must have supreme confidence in his ability. Which is good to see.


Apparently he asked for the Ballon D'or clause, he must be very confident.
 
I'm no expert on transfer fee add ons (to put it mildly!) but I think the more usual structure would be payments based on bonuses or team success. Seems unusual to have so much additonal payments based on spectacular individual success. Monaco seem to be taking quite the gamble here (appropriately enough) but also must have supreme confidence in his ability. Which is good to see.

Monaco are not taking any gamble, they are gonna get a minimum of 50 million Euros, which is already way over the top for a player so early in his stage of development. Anything on top of that will be like a cherry on the cake.
 
Is Martial expected to start? If so, is he going to play more on the right wing or up front? If he plays on the right, does anybody believe Mata will fill in the #10 role?
 
It'll be great if every year when the results of the Ballon d'Or are out any Monoco players on there vote for Martial.
 
It was no 'disaster'. We got good results using that formation especially with carrick in the team. It was used because we were defensively weaker in a back 4 as was evidenced by our Everton west brom and west ham games. Not to mention we had injuries to our actual full backs Shaw and Rafael(even blind was out after an intl break) so had to play young and Valencia as wing backs. It was a good system where we grinded out results beating arsenal Liverpool an all on the way. It wasn't brilliant or incredibly exciting or anything but disaster? Not even close.

What exactly is Di Maria's best position? He played all his career at Madrid as a winger save a season where bale came where he played a CM. he plays a winger for Argentina too. Save 2-3 games where we played him as a second striker we played him almost always in the wings.

Seriously? Van Gaal's insistence on 5-3-2 saw us start the season with two points from a possible nine and get smashed 4-0 by MK Dons. The few good results we managed when using it (the Arsenal and Liverpool games you mention) involved us getting ripped apart repeatedly and De Gea putting in MOTM heroics. The only good performances we put in all season came with a back four and the idea we only used 5-3-2 because we looked defensively vulnerable or had injures is demonstrably false. Van Gaal played it from minute one of pre-season when both Shaw and Rafael played out of position as wing backs against LA Galaxy.

Di Maria's best position is midfield playmaker. As a winger he has never looked like an elite player but when Ancelotti moved him inside he had his best ever season, being instrumental in winning the CL with a MOTM performance in the final and winning Argentinian player of the year ahead of the likes of Messi and Aguero. It was his performances in midfield that led to us paying such a large fee for him and his early games there for us made him look like a great signing. His form collapsed when Van Gaal started moving him all over the pitch and Di Maria has recently talked about this being a problem for him and how Blanc agrees he should go back into the midfield role where he excels.

Anyway this is off topic so if you want to continue the discussion send me a message so we don't clutter up the thread.
 
Monaco are not taking any gamble, they are gonna get a minimum of 50 million Euros, which is already way over the top for a player so early in his stage of development. Anything on top of that will be like a cherry on the cake.
Well they didn't want to accept €50m alone, and it's not like you can't be a fantastic footballer worth a lot more than that without managing to achieve the extras. I think Rooney would only be liable for the €5m for the Golden Boy award, and he's not far off being the record scorer for both us and England now.
 
I'm no expert on transfer fee add ons (to put it mildly!) but I think the more usual structure would be payments based on bonuses or team success. Seems unusual to have so much additonal payments based on spectacular individual success. Monaco seem to be taking quite the gamble here (appropriately enough) but also must have supreme confidence in his ability. Which is good to see.
I wonder if this type of structured payments were the reason we lost out on Pedro...
 
Is Martial expected to start? If so, is he going to play more on the right wing or up front? If he plays on the right, does anybody believe Mata will fill in the #10 role?

I hope he starts and Rooney is moved back, where we also have better players, but how or never, just once he's out of that striking role for someone who'll at least make a run.
 
Not sure was this posted already, have only checked this page.

A break down of his fee for SportsJoe.ie

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The fee for Anthony Martial could rise to £58m (€78.7m) if he goes on to become one of the world's best players.
The French striker secured his deadline day move from Monaco, on Tuesday, and United will pay £22m up front.

The Premier League club will then pay £3.5m over the next four years - adding up to £36m (€48.8m).

However, according to French broadcaster RMC, an additional €30m of add-ons could make the 19-year-old United's second most expensive signing of all time [Angel Di Maria cost £59.7m].

Monaco could bank another €5m each time Martial finishes the Premier League as top scorer - to a maximum of €15m.

There is another potential €10m if Martial wins the Balon D'or while he is with United.

More realistically - for now - Martial's former club will get €5m extra if the striker wins the Golden Boy. That award is given to the best player in Europe under 21 and decided by a host of top European football journalists.

Previous winners of the award while at United - Wayne Rooney in 2003 and Anderson in 2008.
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£22m sounds much better.

Also with all those addons Monaco must really rate this guy.
So if he does become a world beater we will pay £58m to Monaco which is a price of a world class player. Where's the profit in that for United:confused:
 
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