Totally open to corruption if it is worth that amount of cash too.
Manchester United Sign Anthony Martial!
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Totally open to corruption if it is worth that amount of cash too.
Sure we paid a fair whack but it's a sign of the times we're living in. It's not the 1990's anymore. What are United going to do? They have to haggle and to complete deals, we have to sometimes say yes. One player can make a difference. Just imagine facing Liverpool playing the way we have been playing. We'll either be the luckiest bastards or the stupidest fecks. Either way i'm hoping for the former. We know he'll play up top so that first formations going to be interesting.
The fact that there is a Ballon d'Or clause boggles my mind. Either the scouts within the club genuinely believe we have truly signed the next big thing or it was a shrewd way to match Monaco's monetary valuation that will ultimately never be met.
The top goalscorer and Balon d'Or clauses are fine. Would have liked to see the future payments dependent on appearances.
I haven't ever seen him play, unless he played in the 2nd leg of the CL tie with Arsenal and I just don't remember, so I can't comment on how good he is.
I just struggle to see how we ended up paying this much. Would Monaco really have rejected £26m for example?!
I just struggle to see how we ended up paying this much. Would Monaco really have rejected £26m for example?!
This is where I struggle with the modern obsession with transfer fees though. I get that it's a talking point, but for me I just care that we've got the player. We're an extremely rich football club.
I feel the same way about City's transfers this summer. £100m+ on two wingers. A huge sum of money. The only thing that really matters now though is that they've added great talent to the squad. They can afford it.
Football is pretty fecked up nowadays. Players don't necessarily have to be 'worth' what is paid for them, because Martial or De Bruyne or the likes are never going to make enough of a difference on their own to ever really repay that fee.
I've been involved in 3 acquisitions with my firm this summer. The due diligence involved in all of them was incredible. Football has lost its mind financially, and there will be far more questionable transfers than this one in the coming years, very likely involving United.
The deal is now done, the fee is really only relevant now in terms of people trying to use it as a stick to beat him with, but the club will protect him from that. Now we can only hope that he actually fulfils what is apparently a massive amount of potential.
I doubt we went straight in high and tried to negotiate downwards.
Really excited about this one. With a bit of luck and a lot of hard work we could have a pair of exceptional forwards in Memphis and Martial.
It was late in the window, other clubs were supposedly interested. We make them an offer they can't refuse because we want the player. I'm sure we aren't stupid enough to pay millions more than we have to just because we can.
What does impress me about what little I've seen so far is how he plays with his back to goal, against quite physical defenders, and manages to turn them and get a direct run at goal. It's one of those rare skills that players either have or they don't and, shock horror, was one of Henry's biggest strengths.
He does a bit clumsy with the ball but he seems good at riding challenges and winning fouls when it looks like he's beaten. Not much evidence of any trickery but that's no bad thing, we're crying out for a fast, physical player who can take on and bully defenders
I'm coming around to this deal but I haven't worked out whether that's my blind optimism as a supporter, with the lack of anyone else arriving, or whether my rational head actually enjoys these kinds of players more than superstars who inevitably fail to live up to expectations.
He does a bit clumsy with the ball but he seems good at riding challenges and winning fouls when it looks like he's beaten. Not much evidence of any trickery but that's no bad thing, we're crying out for a fast, physical player who can take on and bully defenders
I'm coming around to this deal but I haven't worked out whether that's my blind optimism as a supporter, with the lack of anyone else arriving, or whether my rational head actually enjoys these kinds of players more than superstars who inevitably fail to live up to expectations.
Christ, kiss of death if ever there was one!
an unknown quantity for me as don't watch much french football. surprised that we baulked at 22m for Pedro but willing to pay 36m for someone with potential rather than established pedigree
He looks cool as you like.
Big fee? Doesn't matter mate.
Big fee? Doesn't matter mate.
Nah I know, was a somewhat rhetorical question (although you never know given some of the strange shit that's happened in the transfer window over the years!). I don't reckon we asked them to name their price and then paid that. Makes me think Monaco perhaps had some sort of verbal agreement with another big club pertaining to next summer. It's stupid money either way obviously.
Perhaps the board and Van Gaal are behind this approach.
We went for the established route last year with Di Maria and Falcao, which did not work. Maybe we weren't keen on it happening with Pedro too.
Love the signing
Personally don't think you can buy the best players in the world, you can only really produce them. Yes we could have waited another year to see more but with chelsea already bidding 40m this summer it looks like wrapping this up early is the way to go
Yeah we could have saved the 36m, it owuld have just ended up in the glazers pockets, we should be spending our profits each year
Personally don't think you can buy the best players in the world, you can only really produce them. Yes we could have waited another year to see more but with chelsea already bidding 40m this summer it looks like wrapping this up early is the way to go
Yeah we could have saved the 36m, it owuld have just ended up in the glazers pockets, we should be spending our profits each year
I heard on sky sports that we backed out as we were looking for "searing" pace. What the hell is searing pace, and surely Pedro is quite pacey?
yeah could well prefer someone with less of an ego and who can be moulded to van Gaal's philosophy whig Di Maria has admitted he found difficult.
Some people think he won't even play this season? 
If you're not sure what this lad is about, please watch this video. I did, and instantly felt a lot better...
The kid looks quality.
If you're not sure what this lad is about, please watch this video. I did, and instantly felt a lot better...
The kid looks quality.
yeah I've heard the pace argument on SSN also. Henry was saying that martial had it so we will see. I hope it pays off, guess Im just surprised as 36m is huge money for a teenager with 50 odd first team appearances.
still, some gambles pay off - if he's close to Henry's potential we'll be chuffed
Like Memphis he will start a lot of games. I think he will play as the lone striker with Rooney in the number 10 position which last season produced some of our most dire football.
The former I think, I've only seen him play a full game once (well, twice but I wasn't paying attention the other time) and on YouTube but you can see there's something special there which is beyond the usual stuff. I'd be surprised if he doesn't become a top player at the very least.
- Even BBC can't resist posing the question:
"The new Thierry Henry? Or the new David Bellion?"
He'll be haunted by this no doubt. Hopefully he'll establish his own style soon enough
Some people think he won't even play this season?
If you're not sure what this lad is about, please watch this video. I did, and instantly felt a lot better...
The kid looks quality.
I remember when we signed Anderson and there were plenty of videos going round showing how good he was and how he was the next Ronaldinho.
Some people think he won't even play this season?
If you're not sure what this lad is about, please watch this video. I did, and instantly felt a lot better...
The kid looks quality.
He's impressive. Like a raw original Ronaldo. Can't wait.
Videos are always going to combine all the best bits. Bear in mind, though, that this video is all from a single game against Valencia. It's clear he had a very busy game.
Yes why not continue to live that life of pessimism. Were all gonna die at the end of the day
Written off and compared to Anderson signing before even kicking a ball for us. Great to see such confidence in our players.
Having just watched several videos of Martial, I'm actually disappointed with the level he's currently at. Doesn't seem to have a great touch, ball control or seem good at retaining posession either. Looks like he runs into cul de sacs in an almost amateurish way. I think with the fee as it is you'd expect a more naturally gifted player like Rooney was at that age. Ironically even Januzaj may have more natural ability.
If you can put the price tag aside, he has great pace and there are a number of players who use their pace well like Hazard or Moura and in the future he could be moulded into that type of player that is quick over the first ten yards and uses it to beat his man.
I think anybody expecting this kid to arrive and be a superstar in the short term will be disappointed and the Henry comparison looks a little far-fetched. Was interesting to see Henry on tv almost looking sheepish when Martial was dubbed the new Henry but he was one of a kind and only really fulfilled his potential when he came to Arsenal. So I hope im wrong and Martial goes from strength to strength in his time at United. I just don't think we've bought the worlds most naturally gifted young player.
If you can put the price tag aside, he has great pace and there are a number of players who use their pace well like Hazard or Moura and in the future he could be moulded into that type of player that is quick over the first ten yards and uses it to beat his man.
I think anybody expecting this kid to arrive and be a superstar in the short term will be disappointed and the Henry comparison looks a little far-fetched. Was interesting to see Henry on tv almost looking sheepish when Martial was dubbed the new Henry but he was one of a kind and only really fulfilled his potential when he came to Arsenal. So I hope im wrong and Martial goes from strength to strength in his time at United. I just don't think we've bought the worlds most naturally gifted young player.
I can see him playing the 9 definitely. Great ball control along with all his other obvious skills. I always do love these signings.
True but the youtube video I saw of Anderson was made up of short clips that were pieced together. But yeah we'll see.
I didn't compare him to Anderson or make a single comment about his ability. I am saying you can't trust highlight videos.Written off and compared to Anderson signing before even kicking a ball for us. Great to see such confidence in our players.
There's clearly more to his game than just pace.
And I don't think anyone is expecting a superstar in the short term. Btw, have you seen videos of Henry at 19 for an accurate comparison?
For one champions league game that video against Valencia is impressive. Also, Phil Neville had only good things to say about him.
I have seen early videos of Henry but did mention in my post that Henry only fulfilled his potential at Arsenal.
Martial is going to die one day. Why the feck did we sign someone who is going to die one day for fecks sake? Shambolic.
I give up at the negativity of some of our fans. Club just can't win. I'd sooner have someone on the way up than throw 250k a week on players on the way down or surplus to Real or Barca's requirements....
should i care that the stupid sky stat comparing thing have wilson the better player?
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