I'm saying we sacked Ole months late - if not a whole season
Manchester United name John Murtough as Football Director and Darren Fletcher as Technical Director
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An ex-player? Surely that cant be true.
how do fans contribute to the problem?
Blind faith in thinking a novice like Ole would actually be a good shout for the long term and the over the top support for him. There were Ole chants even after his sack to a higher frequency than before he joined as caretaker.
Oh, sorry I misunderstood your point. I agree to a great extent although still not sure we had very much say in the original decision. Although, yes the club realised Ole's appointment fool some of the people and therefore they didn't need to pay top dollar for a top name
Dare I say it but are we looking a bit more proactive these days…? 
The Dream TeamDare I say it but are we looking a bit more proactive these days…?
Joking aside we all know it’s hard to get money from the Glazers at the moment so getting in Sabitzer and Weghorst for minimal monies is Gods work surely?
Club is in a sticky situation
Best of a bad situation yeah.
I think you've been really smart in the market this window, Weghorst is a clever signing and Sabitzer has obviously been on your radar for a while. Today's move suggests there's some good succession planning going on behind the scenes. If you get him it'll be a good piece of business.
You're brave.Dare I say it but are we looking a bit more proactive these days…?
Might say that if we hadn't left it to the last day, but we are literally reacting to the Eriksen injury.Dare I say it but are we looking a bit more proactive these days…?
And what a reaction no?
I’d say it shows we’ve been making moves in the last few days and prepping for todays news. We had a plan.
Agreed, they are finally looking competent.
It Normally takes a while for the results from having a DOF, and by all accounts he only really took charge when Woodward left.
We bring in a last-minute signing (which is a decent fit, to be fair) and all of a sudden, he's competent?
Some really low standards yet again on display.
Some really low standards yet again on display.
What?
Murtough's first real test.
It's also being creative and open when you have less (money) to use. These are smart, astute, and logical signings. Round peg, round hole.
That would imply it's reactive rather than proactive in fairness. Sometimes that is necessary though, things change and you have to be able to adapt. If this was in the summer with a significant budget and months to plan then it would be underwhelming but given the financial constraints at the minute and the fact we needed a number 9 and a midfielder as cover they've done well to get 2 decent players that can hopefully help us stay in the top 4 and maybe win a trophy.
Being able to call around or have agents call you and sort out a deal is pretty much the bare minimum. But club has managed to get ETH a player he wants, how much credit likes of Murtough and Arnold depends on the circumstances.
The big test is whether the people behind the scenes can put together a structure that supports the manager and help him make decisions on players he is less aware of.
At the moment the manager is pulling all the strings but relying on him picking all the players to this extent isn’t sustainable.
The big test is whether the people behind the scenes can put together a structure that supports the manager and help him make decisions on players he is less aware of.
At the moment the manager is pulling all the strings but relying on him picking all the players to this extent isn’t sustainable.
How?
It’s been suggested Sabitzer has been lined up since summer due to fitting the profile. Not sure how true. If so though it’s pretty good work getting in the right player when the opportunity arose.
Where did you get that mate?
It was reported on Sky Sports news.
Basically he was on a shortlist of players for a midfield spot in the summer and the club and Ten Hag identified him as fitting the system.
Sky suggesting it’s an opportunistic signing which has already been well explored in terms of profile and fit.
If that is the case then fair play, that is good how they've progressed with it, but even if it isn't we're short of midfielders and now we've got one more decent one so it's positive regardless of how it arose.
Agreed.
Lets be real honest here.
Its been the manager making all the transfer decisions as per usual.
Its been the manager making all the transfer decisions as per usual.
Sabitzer was part of a list provided by the club which they felt would fit The profile Ten Hag wants apparently.
Who appointed the manager and agreed the structure for him to work in?
Along with Casemiro
Show me the evidence
By the look of it there was a lot more of the latter than the former under Woodward. There’s no way he’d have been able to say no to the likes of Mendes or Raiola.
Are we sure that isn’t just an assumption based on the Ajax / Dutch contingent? Casemiro looks like a player signed by the club in support of the manager, and Sabitzer may be also, for all we know.
We've signed two players (three if you count Eriksen) from Ajax this summer for a combined 140m?
We would have signed a fourth if FDJ hadn't turned us down. Possibly a fifth if Brobbey hadn't decided to stay.
Did Fletcher draw up that list? Or was it Murtough you think? Or was it one last Woodward masterstroke?
Two good loan deals given our shoestring budget. I bet Murtough is an absolute demon around the middle aisle at Aldi.
Where does Sabitzer fit on this? Casemiro? The attempt for Rabiot?
Now I am not saying Arnold and Murtough are good or bad because The white elephants in the room - the parasites - are the yay or naysayers in any deal we do. If they say you can only get loans that doesnt go above £23 mill, (the cash the club is still reported to have), then Arnold and Murtough could be the best pair of CEO DOF in the world and it wouldnt make any difference.