Manchester United name John Murtough as Football Director and Darren Fletcher as Technical Director

Nytram Shakes said:
Which ever way you spin it, The Murtough appointment has been an unmitigated disaster.
  • Either he is the lame duck appointment that some are claiming who has never had control over squad building decisions. In which case appointing a jumped up yes man to the position of DOF when the club had desperately needed some one component in that role since Fergie left (an arguably before to prepare for his departure) is criminal.
  • Or he is utterly useless at his job and has spent over half billion on the squad and for it to still be a complete mess.
Either way he has to go down as one of the worst appointments in united history.
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One of the worst? Bit of an over exaggeration I think. Needs replacing? Yes I think he has had his chance. Will next person be any better under same structure? Remains to be seen
 
Nytram Shakes said:
Which ever way you spin it, The Murtough appointment has been an unmitigated disaster.
  • Either he is the lame duck appointment that some are claiming who has never had control over squad building decisions. In which case appointing a jumped up yes man to the position of DOF when the club had desperately needed some one component in that role since Fergie left (an arguably before to prepare for his departure) is criminal.
  • Or he is utterly useless at his job and has spent over half billion on the squad and for it to still be a complete mess.
Either way he has to go down as one of the worst appointments in united history.
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I don't think any DoF could have walked in and actually succeeded immediately. There was just way too much staff turnover that needed to happen throughout the club, getting the scouting system and data analysis in place, etc. It was always going to take a couple of years to really turn things around. Murtough has at least attempted to do that as we know he replaced a lot of people, but it will take time to know whether the people and background system he bought in are actually good enough or whether we're going to have to rip it all up and start again.

That's not to say that a more experienced DoF wouldn't have had some more success than Murtough has had, or that we shouldn't have seen more improvement over time (especially in the last transfer window) than we have. So I'm certainly not saying that he's done a good job. But the hope is that Murtough actually improved some aspects of the club enough that another DoF can come in and have more immediate success, something that I don't think would have been possible a few years ago.
 
golden_blunder said:
One of the worst? Bit of an over exaggeration I think. Needs replacing? Yes I think he has had his chance. Will next person be any better under same structure? Remains to be seen
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It won't be the same structure though, he is a part of the current failing one and the Ratcliffe minority ownership comes with structural change as a key point.
 
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-tracked-804-right-20586281

We have a team of data guys to study 804 right backs before we decided to sign AWB with 50M which many agree that it's an average signing considering the price. The question is how many players Murtough's team studied before we signed Onana, Antony, Mount, Amrabat, Sabitzer, Weghorst, Malacia, Casemeiro and the likes because we don't seem to learn anything?
 
crossy1686 said:
They have just signed Dier and are trying to get Trippier so it could be that he’s just completely thrown the towel in and they’ve had enough of it.
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He was already pushed aside before these transfers. This news is essentially a formality, not a real change at this point in time. He lost his influence over transfers already in the summer.
 
stefan92 said:
He was already pushed aside before these transfers. This news is essentially a formality, not a real change at this point in time. He lost his influence over transfers already in the summer.
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For any particular reason? Why would they marginalise someone who’s been doing a good job for 10 years?
 
crossy1686 said:
For any particular reason? Why would they marginalise someone who’s been doing a good job for 10 years?
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He did a good job as a scout, became technical director, didn't impress in that role and especially not as a stand in for Salihamidzic once he was sacked. Also allegedly didn't have the best relationship to the campus staff. Sounds a lot like a typical case of someone being promoted beyond what's good for him.
 
stefan92 said:
He did a good job as a scout, became technical director, didn't impress in that role and especially not as a stand in for Salihamidzic once he was sacked. Also allegedly didn't have the best relationship to the campus staff. Sounds a lot like a typical case of someone being promoted beyond what's good for him.
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Makes sense, thanks.
 
Frank Grimes said:
Murtough has to go. Guy is at best unlucky and at worst just really bad at his job.
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He's your typical company man. The academy should be his responsibility, but beyond that, he shouldn't have anything to do with running the club.

Not sure what the point of Darren Fletcher is, and I don't think anyone ever has.

I think we are in a new era and you'll see many of the old establishment leave.
 
dubplate warrior said:
He's your typical company man. The academy should be his responsibility, but beyond that, he shouldn't have anything to do with running the club.

Not sure what the point of Darren Fletcher is, and I don't think anyone ever has.

I think we are in a new era and you'll see many of the old establishment leave.
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Fletcher's role has been explained numerous times. If you cared, you'd know.
 
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