Noc-Z
ffs
Are you serious? Unproven? He won 14 trophies in his first 4 years alone in management and he didn't exactly take over a Barcelona team that was sweeping all before them, they were in turmoil. If Pep is unproven then who in Gods name is proven?
Yes I'm totally serious. He was in a unique position at Barca - everything is in place for you to do well at that club. You can't completely credit Pep with Barcas success and I don't think he had to display any great managerial genius to win with them. And at Bayern he only achieved what is expected of Bayern really didn't he? I wouldn't say he over achieved there.
Who in Gods name is proven? Sir Alex Ferguson proved himself to be a great manager. He didn't walk into a mega club he created one. Mourinho is proven he has been a success in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain. He has actually constructed teams. What he done with Porto alone eclipses Peps achievement as a manager in my eyes.
EDIT: give me prime Messi, Iniesta and Xavi etc. and I'd probably look a good manager!