But Pep is insisting on doing it isn't he? There's some pretty simple things they can do to stop fecking up quite so often.
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The stats you quoted looked excessively pessimistic based on the specific window you were looking at them over. We do usually score 2 goals or more, not we only score 2 goals occasionally.
The reason I think we may be beaten on Saturday is that Pep is still finding he feet and the way we are playing (possession at the expense of speed) will mean we'll end up with lots of the game played in Chelsea's half with them defending and then hitting us on the break. And they have the quality to hurt us - and pretty much everyone else - when they do that. We need to be more direct and more incisive in our own attacks, which are too slow and ponderous at the moment.
The window I chose was the 11 most recent games you've played, or we could just look at 10 if it makes you feel better, what else would we use to analysis form? I haven't manipulated those stats in any way whatsoever, it's entirely indicative of your current form. If they look worrying it's probably because they are.
So you just happened to pick 11? You're a comedian, I'll give you that.
And as to worrying, how many points are you off 4th?
You seriously have generous definitions of what cherry pick and manipulate means
Try to keep up.
I freely admit we have problems and are currently well off the pace, but then I'm not the one getting his thong.
Defensively they do have problems, but I think the size of those issues are exaggerated at times. Otamendi is a very good CB, is playing well this season and is comfortable in possession and in defensive phases. Stones hasn't set the world on fire but I do think his performances have been nowhere near as bad as the general public consensus on this forum is. Keep in mind he's 22, Rio was a couple years older when he moved to United. I think that John Stones could go on to emulate Ferdinand, especially with a little more continental/international experience under his belt.
Bravo has been a bit crap this season, he is a good/great keeper imo, not quite sure what's going on with him.
Your massively overrating city's defensive line up there.
In my opinion Stones will never be as good as Ferdinand. I don't actually think he's a very good centre back. Certainly not any where near the best in the league.
As for Bravo I think he is dodgey as hell. Coming to the PL is a different ball game especially for foreign players who have a lot of pressure on them (I.e replacing hart)
City are where they are because they have Aguero. I personally think without Aguero they would be where we are abouts now. Competing for 2/3/4 place. He's a world class player and probably the best in the league. A player like that makes a massive difference.
What city lack in defence make up for going forward. They have had a great attack for years now.
Chances are he won't, because Ferdinand was an incredibly impressive footballer. I think the level of ability Stones has shown at a very young age means it's not an impossibility though. He had a very poor season last season, and this season has been mediocre, but it's very rare to see a starting 22 year old CB at any top club.
I can't disagree that Bravo has been very dodgy, but I think to some extent the differences for keepers between the PL and other leagues is overstated, I think the main problem has just been Bravo moving from a significantly stronger team to a weaker team with less protection. I'm not going to write him off though as it's still very early.
Agreed, Aguero is an incredible player and is their best/perhaps the league's best player. Saying that, if you took Costa from Chelsea, Sanchez from Arsenal, Ibra from United, Kane from Spurs etc, the team in question will lose points if their best striker is missing.
They rely on Aguero, but I think Silva, Gundogan, KDB, Sterling, Fernandinho, Otamendi have all been good to great this season. Iheanacho is also a very talented young player and good backup to Aguero.
Otamendi's gash mate, trust me.
I rated him highly at Valencia, thought he was very poor to mediocre last season, but every time I've seen him this season I think he's been very good. What's been his problem?
Bailly.
No brains to tie his strengths together.
He has a tremendous passing ability, he's great in the air, good positionally and his composure is strong. The issue is that if three of his attributes are working then one of them fails. Mangala had the same issue.
It's like watching dogs play football.
Varane, Zouma, Bailly, Umtiti are all 22/23.
It happens, Bailly looks class, but even then it's been 10 or so league games?
Even Varane makes plenty of mistakes, Gimenez looks class but he's also playing in a more defensive set up.
None of these bar Bailly are first choice starters though. They're all very talented, but my point wasn't that there are no 22 year old CB's, just that it's rare for one to be first choice at a top club. I think it says something that all 4 of those CB's are potentially WC.
That's fair enough, you'll have seen him more than me. I think he's been great in Europe (first Barca game aside) but that's no good if his domestic form is questionable.
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You seriously have generous definitions of what cherry pick and manipulate means
Well since i haven't used the word manipulate, that does seem odd. And I think we all know what cherry pick means.
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Let's get this 100% straight and cut the BS:
1. Your claim that I took issue with was that we are not SCORING more than 2 goals per game in the majority of our games. feck all to do with defensive records.
2. You picked a ridiculously "random" number of 11 games to try to justify your point.
3. You included CL and LC games even though this is a discussion about whether we can win the league or not.
It's patently obvious to anyone with a neuron that you cherry picked the results you wanted to include, in order to best demonstrate your point.
4. You are now claiming that you chose 11 games, since that was when our poor defensive run began, and yet if we go back 12 games, we conceded 3 goals in that game. Unfortunately we also scored 3 in that game, so you omitted it.
Q E fecking D pal. You cherry picked the results.
I'm not surprised you did this, in fact I might even expect it of an opposing fan seeking to demonstrate a point. But FFS just be honest about it, instead of this pathetic attempt at trying to justify yourself.
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Make your fecking mind up!
I "cherry picked" results yet the period I chose was "random", makes sense!
I used the last 11 games to demonstrate form, something you seem entirely incapable of grasping, despite me given a reason why I used 11 now three times you seem call it "cherry picked". Are you really telling me games you played in the league in August are a better indication of how you will perform in the near future than your most recent games in the cup?
We were discussing the requirement of having to score two or more goals a game because you can't keep clean sheet, savvy?
If you actually bothered to follow the thread of the conversation you'll discover that it's not about if you can win the league, it's about a posters claim you defend well under Pep (hence the thread title), you've pulled this point out of your arse, maybe next time bring your head out with it.
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You've been well and truly rumbled pal. Get over it.
Pointed out the entire time you were discussing someone no-one else was, that you've contradicted yourself throughout and that you don't seem to understand what "cherry pick" means. Yeah pal, rumbled! at least you've learned a lesson from all this, read it all before you get your panties in a twist!
Weird post match interview!
Not sure what he's trying to say half the time. Geoff asked him what he made of Luiz not being penalised for the block on Aguero and he says "I'm happy to be here and I've not come to teach you anything".
What is he on about?
Not sure what he's trying to say half the time. Geoff asked him what he made of Luiz not being penalised for the block on Aguero and he says "I'm happy to be here and I've not come to teach you anything".
What is he on about?
Complete arse. That was just awkward, he should just come out and say what he feels instead.
What happened to the high press and keeping the ball up and around the opposition's box?
He's a cock. It's like he goes out of his way to appear eccentric when he very clearly is not.
Haven't won at home in the league for 4 games in a row now (1-1 Everton, 1-1 Southampton, 1-1 Middlesbrough, 1-3 Chelsea).
I think he does not want to say stuff like "In La Liga that would have been given".
He seemed to be totally ignoring the questions and just saying random things. It's Shreeves though so feck him.
Pointed out the entire time you were discussing someone no-one else was, that you've contradicted yourself throughout and that you don't seem to understand what "cherry pick" means. Yeah pal, rumbled! at least you've learned a lesson from all this, read it all before you get your panties in a twist!
You're pathetic.
Is he struggling to understand the questions or just purposely dodging them?
It translates to "I've made a terrible mistake coming here".
100% dodging them.
Our summer signing on fire
It's all gone downhill since they were top of the league and Guardiola came out sarcastically saying the premier league is difficult and spouting other nonsense. Since then he's been on his longest streak without a win and he's just got the spine of his team banned for 3 games. Good luck during the Christmas period
he's just got the spine of his team banned for 3 games. Good luck during the Christmas period
Not entirely sure how Pep has managed to do that.
Failed to control his players. Losing their heads like that showed a lack of respect for him imo.
So will he and City get slighted by the media for their home form? That's now 3D-1L in their last 4 league matches at home. I mean he has to, right? Jose's been getting it for 4 straight draws at home in the league.
Probably not though, Pep is a media darling.
Probably not though, Pep is a media darling.
Fraudiola.
I didn't mean that's pep's fault, I meant it's his problem to resolve which won't be easy. The fixture list isn't bad but Aguero missing Arsenal will hurt your chances.
Chelsea did that quite well
I'd say that's quite eccentric behaviour, trying to appear eccentric if you're not.
Naive tactics today. How easy were Chelsea's second and third goals?