Yes, the lawyer selected by UEFA sided with them, the lawyer selected by City sided with City, and the one mutually agreed sided with City. That’s how the case was always likely to go.
Ok so we agree legal opinion is overwhelmingly on City’s side.
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Yes, the lawyer selected by UEFA sided with them, the lawyer selected by City sided with City, and the one mutually agreed sided with City. That’s how the case was always likely to go.
Ok so we agree legal opinion is overwhelmingly on City’s side.
The City propaganda machine in full swing. City Group probably have their own bot network in operation amplifying their shit over the internet.
What most football fans care about is whether City used hugely inflated "sponsorships" (and other crooked means - like paying huge "consultant fees" to employers via third party operators) to cheat the system.
Not about whether it was technically possible for CAS to side with UEFA given the nature of the case.
The latter is of no importance. It's a technicality. The fact is that City did cheat the system - everyone knows this. They had no business spending that much money based on what the football club actually generated - this has been established beyond any reasonable doubt. They cheated - pure and simple.
Again - go ahead and argue about the nature of UEFA and/or the "aristocracy" of established giants who are against upstarts like City: fine, do that, there's a debate to be had there, even. But don't feckin' pretend City is "innocent" of cheating on a grand scale within the context of the current system.
Not about whether it was technically possible for CAS to side with UEFA given the nature of the case.
The latter is of no importance. It's a technicality. The fact is that City did cheat the system - everyone knows this. They had no business spending that much money based on what the football club actually generated - this has been established beyond any reasonable doubt. They cheated - pure and simple.
Again - go ahead and argue about the nature of UEFA and/or the "aristocracy" of established giants who are against upstarts like City: fine, do that, there's a debate to be had there, even. But don't feckin' pretend City is "innocent" of cheating on a grand scale within the context of the current system.
So one lawyer is corrupt but the one writing that article can’t have any biases?
I do fear this likely happens on some level with a lot of clubs, City being one of the worst offenders by a distance.
Where would the money be coming from with this myriad of other clubs?
Literally anywhere?
That email is very clear anyway. Guilty as sin. Guess it's good for them it's from 7 years ago.
Ok, City/PSG do this because their owners have unlimited oil money. Not many other owners have piles of oil money to plough into a club.
If the money is coming from an external source then it's a sponsorship deal and it's perfectly fine.
I'm not sure I have any idea what you're getting at.
No, corrupt is not at all the right word. What I’m saying is the verdict was always going to be a majority verdict. The lawyer handpicked by one side is hardly going to find against them. If it was the other way round it would be like a City fan using the fact City’s chosen lawyer sided with them as a means of undermining the verdict.
Simply that there will definitely be accounting gymnastics going on at other clubs at all levels. Clubs other than City will have broken the rules and didn't get caught.
But the other clubs that aren't owned by oil states don't have the resources to cheat on an industrial scale.
They have the resources to cheat, not to the extent City/PSG do but don't be naive to think shadiness doesn't exist all throughout football.
But they don’t work for either City or UEFA do they? So the only other option is that they’d be corrupt
On a much smaller case, sure. The thing is, PSG/City are just doing what any company would do in a competitive market, try to get an edge anyways they can and leverage their considerable resources to beat the competition without getting caught. The only reason more clubs aren't doing it is because they simply don't have that sort of leverage.
FFP gets fairly ridiculed, but it has had an impact, and clubs like City/PSG are actually better for it because they're forced to operate as an actual business. Both clubs got off easy because they were the firsts of their kind (sort of), and UEFA is not a very pro-active organization and they got caught sleeping without a proper punishment to fit the crime. This whole charade with City was just grandstanding that you can only assume they knew would go nowhere, and it just made them look weaker and FFP getting mocked all over again.
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No, how does it follow that is the only explanation? That’s a bizarre false dichotomy you’ve constructed there.
Well a lawyer on an independent body should be partial shouldn’t they? If they’re pre determined to pick a side regardless of the truth that would make them corrupt would it not?
I'm not being naive, of course there's all sorts of dodginess that goes on but you're comparing robbing a loaf of bread with embezzling a million and saying everyone's at it.
But you’re not picking them blindly. You do your due diligence.
You said it would be impossible to find anyone who could read that report and find City guilty. But one did. So it’s either possible or that one person is corrupt, no two ways about it.
No. We don't. And if that's the standard of you extrapolative skills…quack, quack, quack...
It's not a suprise Uefa couldn't prove anything as the leaked emails themselves weren't enough without a money trail and with City not cooperating and their backers are basically Oil powerhouse/powerful country, UEFA would never have got anything anyway even if something was there.
Glad the whole FFP thing is dead. Protectionist racket used to hammer the new clubs in favour of the old clubs.
What they did to City with FFP was scandalous, but let's see what they come up with next to level the playing field for this clubs in massive debt
Gl
... So how long ago do you think City were formed?
Poor little city. Being picked on by the authorities.
I feel sorry for you mate, I really do
Why has this thread been bumped?
Most bizarre thread bump in awhile.
Yeah what's next in this bizarre World of unfairness? That Amazon will have to pay taxes and cant reside on the Cayman Islands!? What a farce. Mother Justicia where art thou
City fan felt persecuted as they are on the cusp of winning 4 trophies and their 3rd league title in 4 seasons.
Professional victims.
city fans have even less perspective than scousersMan fecking Ciddy the archetypal soulless club.
the archetypal soulless club.Rumours circulating that FFP to be dropped.
It’s only fair, why should all clubs bar two adhere to it. How is that fair?
As much as it is a pile of shit, football dies an even bigger death without it, unless its getting replaced with you know something that actually is fit for purpose.
I guess they can stop faking ticket sales now.
This small blue nosed cnut just wants validation. Stop giving it that.
You see people bitch about the monarchy and Britain's issue with class, and then take that mentality all the way into football without even blinking. Perplexing
Unless FFP is being replaced with something better, then this is far worse news. City are going to clean up for years to come and eventually it’s going to reach a point where it’s just accepted.
Football is a great sport, but it really does feel like it’s been turned in to a sportswashing exercise for shady benefactors. It’s one of the reasons I hate reading this stuff, because it’s a reminder of how unfair the playing field actually is.
Football is a great sport, but it really does feel like it’s been turned in to a sportswashing exercise for shady benefactors. It’s one of the reasons I hate reading this stuff, because it’s a reminder of how unfair the playing field actually is.