This better not be ‘Trump can’t win’ all over again.
Manchester City banned from CL for 2 seasons and fined 30 million euros | CAS - Ban lifted, fined 10 million
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Not until Thursday at the earliest.
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Everyone seems to be saying (maybe with justification based on previous rulings) that City will either get off with the ban or have it halved in some quasi-vindicated compromise. I really hope this isn’t the case - and that’s simply not just from a rival fan’s perspective.
I know they probably don’t but have the CAS the power to increase the ban based on a frivolous appeal basis? Because that’s the sort of justice I’d like to see this morning and some honour restored to our beautiful game.
I know they probably don’t but have the CAS the power to increase the ban based on a frivolous appeal basis? Because that’s the sort of justice I’d like to see this morning and some honour restored to our beautiful game.
Bribes.
Didn’t realise KdB is 29 years old. Would he want to stick around and waste his prime if City are banned? To be honest, I have no idea how this will go, but wouldn’t be in the slightest bit shocked if the brown envelopes have had the desired impact.
Plenty of paper talk that he'll look to leave. Rightfully so, can't be wasting two years of his career at that age with no CL. Unless they somehow win it this year, you'd think there would be a few big names maybe looking to get the hell out of there.
I'm sceptical he leaves. It has seemed like agent talk to get a fat pay day in his ongoing contract talks.
To be fair their crooked owners will be offering money that players simply can't refuse to stay, just like they did to get them to sign in the first place. All off the books obviously.
Am I the only one who’s thinking of the down side of a City ban? They’ll probably cruise the league with no mid week European matches.
Imagine if the ban was upheld, but then city appealed again and won
Hardly a downside if it stops Liverpool from winning it.
As long as Liverpool don't win it, that's not a negative. Would prefer City to win it over the cnuty scouse any day of the week. No one really cares about City.
They'll just stop Liverpool winning it, I'd be more concerned if I thought we'd be challenging for the title next year, but I don't think we will be quite yet. Plus if Pep runs off (unlikely) or other players do, it'll have an impact on their season that way.
Maybe. But with no European football, and a need to be more careful (cough-less corrupt-cough) with their blood money, they might have one or two key players fluttering their eyelashes elsewhere
What's after CAS?
Judge Rinder.
Maybe they'll just create their own appeal system... sponsored by Qatar airways
Not if their best players (KDB for example( are unhappy and looking to leave.
Nothing if city win the case
If not city could try a case with the european courts about ffp and competition law
Some lawyers think its a goer and some think the courts wouldn't hear it... nobody knows unless they try it
Fixed that for you.
But who can they appeal to if CAS rules with UEFA in this?
Also I posted on the last page about the legality of all of this in regards to UK/EU law, anyone knows?
From wiki:
As a Swiss arbitration organization, decisions of the CAS can be appealed to the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland.[10] Appeals of arbitration decisions are generally not successful,[11] and no evaluation of the merits takes place, with the evaluation mainly based on whether procedural requirements have been met, and whether the award is incompatible with public policy.
Still no leak? How long we still have to wait? Must say it is an exciting (and potentially excellent) end to the season.
Even if they get banned, I don’t see them selling any of their best players
If it gets reduced to 1 year, they will probably stay. If the entire two years is upheld, then it gets a little trickier. Pep will be gone and some will follow him out.
If the latter happens and United secure CL football for next season (as they bloody should now!) there's no excuse not to splurge a little on this team and close this ridiculous period of them finishing 20+ points ahead of us every season.
I probably won't make it, getting tired. But this is for everyone wondering when
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If the ban isn't upheld, we may as well just forget about FFP.
This verdict this morning won't be the end of all this whichever way it goes. If City get off then there's going to be a lot of people at Uefa unhappy. They surely didn't give them 2 years ban on a whim did they? They must have had a decent amount of evidence to issue the ban to start with. Otherwise they were setting themselves up for huge L.
And if City don't get what they want they won't drop it. They will claim agenda and say its unfair no doubt.
It's all been a huge mess. Clearly we as United fans are biased as hell in all this but the growth of their 'revenue streams' is just absolute nonsense even to some bertie blues. There's just no way it grows that quickly. Chelsea have been owened longer by Roman and won as many trophies and they didnt grow this quickly off the pitch. Its blatantly obvious they have gone against FFP.
However PSG have too for me. Absolute disgrace this is just City in the dock. They are equally as bad.
And if City don't get what they want they won't drop it. They will claim agenda and say its unfair no doubt.
It's all been a huge mess. Clearly we as United fans are biased as hell in all this but the growth of their 'revenue streams' is just absolute nonsense even to some bertie blues. There's just no way it grows that quickly. Chelsea have been owened longer by Roman and won as many trophies and they didnt grow this quickly off the pitch. Its blatantly obvious they have gone against FFP.
However PSG have too for me. Absolute disgrace this is just City in the dock. They are equally as bad.
https://www.asser.nl/SportsLaw/Blog...background-and-eu-law-by-christopher-flanagan
https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/features/item/the-deficiency-of-fairness-in-financial-fair-play
2 lawyers... 2 slightly different opinions (hey thats lawyers for you) but having seen many lawyers over the years make arguments for and against i would say that it certainly looks possible to find lawyers who think there is a case and would make it
Then it's up to the courts if they hear the case and if so a judge to if ffp is legal.
Faced with a 30m fine and a 2 year ban I think at that point the city owners may well look to challenge ffp because I cant imagine the owner would struggle with the money for lawyers
Skimmed through that, as I don't have time to read all of it right now, but that's more on the legality of FFP in regards to UK/EU law, no?
I was questioning City (as a legally registered business in the UK) falsifying financial documents and claiming higher revenues and profits than they actually had?
To who? They don't even have the publics support.
Ian Cheeseman wouldn't have stuck his neck out like this on Friday unless he was super confident of his information.
The press, I'm guessing
They won’t want to, it’s more whether some of their players might want to go elsewhere to play in the Champions League, such as KDB
That would go down like a ton of bricks.
Well you asked where after cas... I think eu courts with a challenge from city if city loose... if city win then its straight into fm mode and trying to buy mbappe, haaland, sancho etc
Accounts will have been audited and submitted by an accountant (presumably a KPMG type) and if hmrc wants to get into a tax investigation they can but they have already seen these accounts and not done so.
If the Man City appeal whatever the decision is today, is their van suspended until the outcome of that appeal?
I can see them accepting a reduced, 1 year ban as next season's Champions league will be a strange one anyway.
I can see them accepting a reduced, 1 year ban as next season's Champions league will be a strange one anyway.