Manager draft

I am bored so I will skip Annah..

First player- Arie Haan

Long write up stolen from elsewhere..

There are a handful of players in history that can rightfully claim the distinction of being called the 'total footballer'. An individual totally comfortable in various roles on the football pitch and executing its requirements effortlessly with ease. The total football (totaalvoetbal) system the Ajax side of the late 60s and early 70s propagated required footballers to have unique levels of versatility and skill for it to prosper. One such product was arguably the most flexible. His name, forgotten in time in certain circles, is Arie Haan.

What made Arie – deriving from the Dutch word for Eagle (Arend) – so special more so than Johan Cruijff, Ruud Krol or Johan Neeskens the three players whose images are commonly conjured up whenever the mythical tactical theory is uttered. It was because he embodied something even more remarkable. Individually he took it to new levels. Like the names of his more stellar teammates he was everything that was wonderful about the revolution Rinus Michels sparked and more.

Haan joined Ajax as a 21-year-old in 1969 which was also around the same time Neeskens and Krol were starting to take a foothold in the side. As an Amsterdam outsider he often clashed with Michels mainly due to his 'free-thinking' lifestyle which reportedly included communist leanings as well as his active social lifestyle. Initially Michels had difficulties trying to get the youngster to conform to his ideals and program but in time he reigned him in.

As a player under The General his instructions couldn't have been anymore simpler. Once in possession his task was to distribute it efficiently often passing to a player that could turn the situation into a goal scoring opportunity often Cruijff, Piet Keizer or fellow midfielder Gerrie Mühren.
By trade he was a defensive midfielder despite this the unique circumstances he found himself at the club made it clear he wasn't simply fixed to this role. In the fluid system Haan would float across the pitch – like clockwork – just as the other nine outfield players. Neeskens famed for his industry and instigator of Ajax’s pressing game on a few occasions would rotate with Haan.

He wasn't the only one, another that often swapped positions with the son of Finsterwolde (in Groningen) was Krol the left-back, whenever he went on his marauding runs down the left flank or moving centrally Haan would cover, the perfect example being the 1973 European Cup final against Juventus.

Haan in Belgrade delivered one of the more iconic - if not breathtaking – individual performances of Ajax’s golden era. Expertly he played across the back four just as he did in midfield and attack. Those watching could have played a game entitled 'guess where Haan will pop up next'. Juventus could be forgiven for thinking Ajax had more than regulatory eleven players on the field of play it was that sensational.

The final demonstrated the sheer athleticism of the player and extreme all-round ability. In his own words, he would often perform at his optimum level under the most strenuous and hostile of circumstances and environment. Games against Ajax's fiercest rivals Feyenoord would always get the best out of him as well as facing Europes's biggest teams and playing in their famous venues.

His passing – whether it was short or long – and rhythmic movement of the men around him enabled the circulation football Michels thrived to perfection to be possible. The rigorous of this favourable choice of build-up style would have taken its toll on many footballers not for Haan and the others.

Ajax rarely took their time and would often by pushing their opponents back create a opportunity in front goal by the least amount of passes. Likewise Haan and Co. weren't afraid to mix things up whether they attacked on the flanks or directly through the centre. Fundamentally space was their refuge as long as it was manipulated most sides it seemed never stood a chance.

It would be incredible if today's data collectors could manage to work out his pass completion rate and (successful) passes made in certain games. If such stats could be compiled and came to an astronomical figure then it shouldn't really surprise given the high levels of possession Ajax then routinely kept.

As a combative player Haan often won the ball back in a tenacious and merciless manner whenever Ajax lost possession even though he wasn't the quickest on the pitch he made up so much ground covering large areas of the pitch and never looked to be out of breath.

The lack of pace he might have had was made up for in his excellent spatial awareness and passing game. His playmaking attributes, early on, often curtailed would be encouraged as he and the side developed as a collective.

When Michels left the club after he guided Ajax to their first European Cup triumph at Wembley against Panathinaikos in 1971 – where Haan as a substitutewould get on the score sheet – the new boss Ștefan Kovács initially didn't know how to get the best out of him it was Cruyff who encouraged the Romanian to allow Haan a free reign. One he took with both hands and expressed to the fullest – which included shooting from long range which would become his trademark – but always maintaining his discipline in his role first and foremost.

The 1971/72 season would see Haan and his teammates become immortal. In some of the best football ever seen in Holland and possibly Europe his complete all-round game started to blossom as the European treble was won. The victory over Internazionale in the 1972 European Cup final in Rotterdam was when total football entered the footballing conscious.

During that campaign Ajax would only lose once out of the 48 games (every competition) they played and that was away to Go Ahead Eagles less than 48 hours before their first leg against Benfica in the European Cup semi-final. A proof that despite their superhuman abilities there was a little mortality running through their veins. In a squad of 19 the word 'rotation' rarely appeared in Kovács lexicon.

His intuition at times could have rivaled the Cruijff's and Beckenbauer’s of the day. He would stay at the club two more years after their last European Cup triumph in 1973 during that time he began playing as a number nine on a regular basis.

It was leaving Ajax that his uniqueness became evident. Haan as the years progressed began to drastically take up advance positions as he aged – defying common wisdom in the process – on the football pitch for the various clubs he played for. Something the rest of his teammates did not manage. This should be seen as typical of a 'total footballer' starting out as a defensive midfielder (Ajax) and ending up as an out-and-out striker (Liège) via as a playmaker (Anderlecht). A new saying should have been coined "Arie of all trades, master of them all."

Already he showed to be comfortable anywhere in defence famously playing at right-back for The Netherlands against Argentina in the 1974 World Cup a position vacated by the absent Wim Suurbier. In fact during that tournament Haan normally played at centre-back. A position Cruijff proposed Michels to play him in as a solution to how the the national team could adopt the renowned brand of football he used at Ajax. Years later in Argentina 1978 he would move into a more central midfield postion.

Many wondered the secret behind his total package, was he also capable of playing in goal, or was he simply just a freak of nature. In truth it simply came down to good old fashioned hard work, the environment he was exposed to made sure every facet of his game to be at a freakily high standard, he simply took the ball and ran with it.
 

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THIERRY HENRY
 
Second - one of the best right backs of all time
Wim Suurbier

A hippy youtube of what he can do or did--

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01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Uli Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. C. Seedorf 5. M. Sanchis 6. I. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier

@Annahnomoss
 
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. 7. 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier
 
I will add a 13th one as well

Piet Keizer

Piet Keizer and Johan Cruijff were known as the "royal pair", or "the starter and the finisher". Keizer had a gift for not being noticed, but then striking with uncanny precision. His hallmark moment came in the European Cup final in 1972, when Keizer crossed the ball with a deadly precision and Cruijff only had to tap it in. Keizer was, for much of his career, in the shadow of his famous team member Johan Cruijff, but still some experts say Keizer was a better player then Cruijff was.

One of the ‘Twelve Apostles’ who to some was better than JC himself; it’s an argument that perhaps should never be settled.

Ajax defender Velibor Vasovic tells the story of watching Ajax just before he signed for the Dutch giants. A young Johann Cruyff was dazzling on the left when Vasovic was told by a fan not to bother too much with the youngster as the left wing was already in possession of the clubs best player. Vasovic responded that if the club had a better player than Cruyff then the club didn’t need to sign him. The better player was Piet Keizer.

Amsterdam born [14th June 1943] and bred, Keizer was a one club man, joining Ajax in 1961 under manager Vic Buckingham. Keizer would stay for 13 years and 365 appearances. A left winger with an upright stance and a long striding “scissor” gait that he perfected; it gave him the ability to deceive defenders and deliver perfect crosses. Sjaak Swart also remembers Keizer’s ability to stand still with the ball and play a pass to take three defenders out.

Only a year after joining Ajax, Keizer made his debut for the Oranje in a friendly against Netherlands Antilles. His early career was marked by comments on his ability to disappear during matches. Keizer was said to be only seen on the pitch for 10 minutes, but in those 10 minutes he was brilliant. He became more consistent and his career was taking off before in 1964 he cracked his skull in a match. A long lay-off followed. When he returned things where changing.

Johann Cruyff was emerging, Rinus Michels was in charge and the world was about to be introduced to Total Football and one of the greatest teams ever seen. Cruyff and Keizer were labelled the ‘royal pair’ and would go onto to terrorize the Eredivisie. Six consecutive league titles would follow until the 1972-3 season, four KNVB Cups, an Intertoto Cup culminating in three consecutive European Cups in 70-1, 71-2 and 72-3 seasons [as well as two UEFA Supercups and an InterContinental Cup victory in the same period].

The 1973 triumphs were to be the farewell of the great team. Rinus left for Barcelona and new manager George Knobel held a secret ballot on who should be captain. Cruyff who held the captaincy lost out to Keizer. A few weeks later Cruyff was heading to Barcelona.

Keizer played his final year at Ajax and was selected by Michels for the World Cup squad in 1974. However an apparent fractious relationship between the two saw Keizer make only one appearance. Keizer decided to retire after the tournament finished.

As to who was the better – Keizer or Cruyff? Maybe the analogy is they needed each other – Cruyff’s Mick Jagger to Keizer’s Keith Richards. Both are legendary.
 
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. 7. 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 13. Kiezer
 
A bit in a rush right now so I'll make the real post later about them.

01. Harms:-
Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida(GK) 7. Mauro Silva 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 13. Kiezer
 
I agree.

Its rather confusing. I suggest we have the picks like they are and unless someone is going offline, we pick in order.
 
Whats with the 13th pick lads ? hard to keep track of whats what

The uncontested pick. If you are sure that the player is just in your pool you can pick him - but if you're wrong, you are loosing him, obviously, to someone who picked him "earlier".

Not a great idea though, if you ask me, but people are bored as this is taking ages.
 
Logically, several managers could easily add numbers twelve, eleven, ten...and so on too. There are massive amounts of uncontested picks in this draft - but, again, part and parcel of the fun is the gradual unveiling of the teams.
 
The uncontested pick. If you are sure that the player is just in your pool you can pick him - but if you're wrong, you are loosing him, obviously, to someone who picked him "earlier".

Not a great idea though, if you ask me, but people are bored as this is taking ages.

bad idea, beginning to get tough to keep track of who's turn it is, we all know who is holding us up most, can we not ask that person to email us his next few picks
 
The uncontested pick. If you are sure that the player is just in your pool you can pick him - but if you're wrong, you are loosing him, obviously, to someone who picked him "earlier".

Not a great idea though, if you ask me, but people are bored as this is taking ages.

Aye - but that's pretty much the nature of the game. People should be more on the ball when it comes to PM'ing their pick(s) when they go offline - that's an easier routine to follow in this draft than normally, precisely because so many of the picks will be uncontested.
 
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01. Harms:-
Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di Maria
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida(GK) 7. Mauro Silva 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 13. Kiezer

@The Red Viper
 

01. Harms:-
Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 13. Kiezer
 
I'll pick the "Metronomo" Demetrio Albertini

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@Gio

01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 13. Kiezer
 
Yeah, you are right. It's 11:45 PM now there.

If you are on @MJJ PM your pick to me.

You have a competing pool. Much better if he PMs me or one of the 100% uncontested managers (Balu/Crappy/probably Cutch as well) a list of options ranked in order of preference. Even that could be quite hard as his pool is rather thin while also very exposed, so he needs to keep track on runs on players/positions. @MJJ
 
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 13. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 13. Kiezer

@Cutch
 
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Mauro Silva joined Vanderlei Luxemburgo at, the rather small club, Bragantino in 1990. Vanderlei had so far coached the smaller teams in Brazil but together with Silva his fortunes were about to change. Mauro Silva developed himself as a destroyer midfielder who could operate as a sweeper/centre back and he went on to have two monster seasons at Bragantino, in the second one he was named the "Player of the Year" in the Brazilian league ahead of some pretty brilliant players who played there at the time.

These years are the primary reason to why Luxemburgo later would coach both the most greatest national team, Brazil, and greatest club team, in Real Madrid, in the history.

Mauro Silva left Bragantino in 1992 for Deportivo La Coruña and he reached his peak years in 93-94 when he partnered Dunga on the international stage. Even though people remember them as an all conquering defensive midfield partnership, Silva wasn't actually picked for the national team after 94 except for in the year 97. His years as a regular in the Brazilian National team instead surprisingly came between 91 and 94 where he played 42 games.


Just a short story about someone I don't think I'll pick.

At Deportivo he was partnered up with arguably the most forgotten player of modern time, Flavio Conceicao. He had an incredible reign at Deportivo next to Mauro Silva and they played internationals together at times(Emerson/Dunga were the reason they didn't do it more often). After his brilliant 1999 season he was considered one of the best defensive midfielders in the world and Real Madrid who were about to start their Galacticos Era signed him for 24 millions, whereas Makelele went for 14 the same year to Madrid too.

The first flop of the Galacticos era, he must have spent the next 14 years erasing himself from the history books considering how unknown he is. I wasn't aware of him even existing prior to this draft.
 
Me? :angel:
Its not my fault that you guys always come to me in the middle of the night :lol:

I think we both know the time difference is effecting you mate, do u think its best if you mail the poster before you your next few picks so we can get this flowing a bit quicker ?
 
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 13. Kiezer

@Cutch

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The Enemy within.. Return of 'Lucho'

With Jorge Valdano as Madrid coach he won the Liga the season 94-95 and scored one of the 5 goals against Barcelona in Bernabeu Stadium. That and his character -he was one of those players hated by everyone but their team supporters- made him kind of persona non grata in Barcelona. However, season 95-96 Luis Enrique, refusing to renew his contract maybe because he wanted to live by the ocean, landed in Barcelona the following season.

In his first season in Barcelona, Luis Enrique scored more goals in la Liga (17) than he had scored in all his previous years in Madrid combined. This is not a strange fact, since that squad, under the command of 63 years old sir Bobby Robson (who brought an interpreter with him called Mourinho), was so chaotic and unpredictable that an overwhelmed Guardiola spent most of the time in the pitch trying to put the players in order, starting his career as a coach. Next season, with Louis Van Gaal, he scored 18 goals and won the first of the 2 consecutive Ligas he helped us earn.

To a certain degree one can draw parallels between the life of Iron Man’s Tony Stark and FC Barcelona legend Luis Enrique Martínez García, or Lucho as fans affectionately call him. Of course, Luis Enrique was never as despicable as Tony Stark at the start of the first Iron Man movie, but in the world of football, many consider playing for Real Madrid an unforgiveable sin. Culés, in particular, oppose and despise anything remotely Real Madrid. For them to take to an ex-Madridista, even accepting him not only as a player but also as their captain, it takes a special kind of personality.

Whereas it’s more common for the Santiago Bernabeu faithful to welcome an ex-Blaugrana and adopt them as their own, as it has been the case with Bernd Schuster, Michael Laudrup, Luis Figo or Ronaldo, Culés aren’t familiar, nor long for an ex-Merengue at Barcelona. At best, they’d be tolerated if they turned out to be decent signings. No more, no less.

Some may point out that another FC Barcelona legend, Samuel Eto’o, is an ex-Madridista too. But, unlike Luis Enrique, Eto’o never played for Real Madrid’s first team, even though he came through their youth academy. Therefore Eto’o’s reputation was not ‘tainted’ so to speak, when he joined Barcelona in 2004.

Luis Enrique on the other hand had spent 5 seasons (1991 – 1996) with Real Madrid prior to signing with the Catalan outfit. A move that can be likened to supervillain Loki joining the Avengers after causing them much grief and misery throughout the years. Unthinkable, especially when one considers the fact that Enrique joined Barcelona on a free transfer. Meaning Real Madrid fans hated him with a vengeance even before he debuted as Blaugrana player. Not many players would leave Real Madrid, all but assured of their hatred, for the almost certain reservation awaiting him in Barcelona. A special personality indeed.

Further Details..

Born May 8th, 1970, in Gijon, Asturias, Enrique joined local side Sporting Gijon’s youth team in 1981 and would represent the Rojiblancos until 1991 when he signed for Real Madrid, after impressing during his first two seasons at the El Molinón. Though his time with Real Madrid wasn’t failure by any stretch of the imagination (18 goals in 213 appearances), it was a far cry from his exploits at his hometown club (17 goals in just 45 games). At Barcelona he found his home away from home which helped him find the consistency to match his undoubted talent.

In 8 seasons with Barcelona he scored 109 goals in 300 appearances, while winning two La Liga titles (1997/98; 1998/99), two Copa del Rey trophies (1996/97; 1997/98), a Spanish Supercup (1996), UEFA Cup Winners Cup (1996/97), and the UEFA Super Cup (1997). But Barcelona fans will always remember him for the feats against his former employers Real Madrid. Nothing endears more to the Camp Nou audience than tormenting Los Blancos, and it can be argued that nobody was better at it than Luis Enrique. Lucho always showed up against the Merengues, turning up an extra-gear whenever he faced the Madrid outfit.

To arrive in Barcelona as an ex-Madrid player and not only be accepted, but be given the honor of club captaincy is testimony to his character and resolve. Perhaps Barcelona will buy a Madrid player in the future, but it’s not likely that anyone will be loved or revered as much as Luis Enrique.

Though he hails from Asturias, Catalunya not only took to him, they made him one of their own. He signed as an ex-Madrid player; he retired as a certified Blaugrana legend.

Heroes aren’t born. They are built….at Barcelona.

Borrowed from Antohan...

LUIS ENRIQUE: One of my favourites from the late 90s who could play anywhere but GK or CB. His mentality and work rate, coupled with pace and superb technique, made him a beast of a box-to-box midfielder. He had the same engine, drive and determination as our Keano but his movement often found him unmarked, his shot power and placing would be the envy of top strikers, his fortitude as a poacher and scorer of important goals was unrivalled, and his heading was devastating. “Keano with goals” I used to think, particularly when you saw him score simply out of sheer will. He just wanted it more.

A member of the promising Spanish team that won gold at the 1992 Olympics, he started as LB or RM in his days at Real. His best came when Robson took him to Barca with a more attacking role in mind, helping Barcelona win the CWC and European Supercup. It was however under LvG that his versatility made him an integral piece of the jigsaw. After scoring 25 goals from midfield in the 97-98 season, he went on to play a variety of roles (CF, linkup, winger, whatever was needed), eventually becoming club captain, and always maintaining that rich goalscoring form (1/3 for Barca overall, 1 in 2 in Europe).

@Balu
 
Has he? Another forward left for harms to get.. better one perhaps

He's not better than Klins IMO, it's pretty close and they're both different. We got the better fit for our team and I think Harms has the better fit for his.
 
Matthäus will be a happy chap when he learns about being reunited with Klinsmann.