or, at the very least dont give him a new contract
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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He’s a cnut. Great at getting sponsorships but completely out of his depth for the football side of signing players & negotiating wages.
Sabotaged the managerAs if the entire fate of our season hinges on the signing of a fecking defender.
Did you watch the game today?
If you dont think need a seasoned CB back there then you need your eyes checked.
Toby.A stopped lingard from scoring and put in another great performance
I honestly think getting him helps whoever is next to him and gives more confidence for our other players that we don't need to sit back to baby sit them
Not getting an experienced CB is gonna cost us
I honestly think getting him helps whoever is next to him and gives more confidence for our other players that we don't need to sit back to baby sit them
Not getting an experienced CB is gonna cost us
I got so much shit in the transfer thread for suggesting Maguire was comfortably better than Jones...Just remember guys, Maguire and Alderweireld are NOT better than Jones or Lindelof
Woody has sabotaged the manager, he can feck off for all I care. A fecking accountant should never be making football decisions.
Defensive errors change games. New signings give the team added momentum. Also, the board coming out to the press and disagreeing with the managers transfer requests is a sign to the squad that the manager is not backed by the club.Sabotaged the manager
He's fecked us alright.
He's obviously not a football man and we'd do better to have someone like Gill running the club. That much is obvious and apparent.
The sticking point, unfortunately, is that he is a Glazer stooge and loyalist. He's making them money hand over fist in sponsorships while doing just enough to keep the team relevant. Unless the pressure returns on the Glazers as a whole, and in much greater strength than previous attempts at ousting them, complaining about Woodward is an exercise in futility. There's just no point to it.
If he actually kicks on and hires a Director of Football, I think it'll be the best we can hope for given the situation with the club's ownership.
The sticking point, unfortunately, is that he is a Glazer stooge and loyalist. He's making them money hand over fist in sponsorships while doing just enough to keep the team relevant. Unless the pressure returns on the Glazers as a whole, and in much greater strength than previous attempts at ousting them, complaining about Woodward is an exercise in futility. There's just no point to it.
If he actually kicks on and hires a Director of Football, I think it'll be the best we can hope for given the situation with the club's ownership.
No he hasn't. Mourinho is responsible for our team, and our team is a shower of shite. If anyone has fecked us it's Jose.
Is that you Ed? Some foresight there mate. Forget the football on display, i think you may be on to something here.
It's amusing how people start to decide he's doing a good job again when they want the manager sacked.
He's incompetent and out of his depth and has been in charge of a listless, mismanaged mess of an organisation since David Gill.
He's incompetent and out of his depth and has been in charge of a listless, mismanaged mess of an organisation since David Gill.
If we're to sack Jose, make it a double and take Woodward with him please.
He's not doing a good job, he's not fit to oversee football matters. But to move all the blame to Woodward just because he didn't sanction a move for a defender is laughable. A defender is not the difference between a functioning team challenging for the title, and a team in disarray like ours. If people are going to criticise Woodward then at least do it for the right reasons instead of blaming him for the state of our team.
He's just not a football man. Let him sign up the likes of Chevrolet and Jiffy Condoms...and leave the football side of things to a bloke with a clue about the game.
Los Pollos Hermanos instead of Kohler and he got my vote to do just that.
I'm blaming Woodward because he's incompetent. I'm blaming Woodward for failure to secure transfer targets, I'm blaming Woodward for getting managerial appointments wrong. I'm blaming Woodward for letting cnuts like Raiola become involved with the club.
I'm blaming Woodward for several shit years of being in charge of this club. Until he goes, the root cause of every single bit of mess we've been in since Ferguson retired remains.
I'd have Gustavo in charge.
He should probably get himself out of the spotlight, literally nobody gives a shit about his role unless he notably isn’t doing it correctly, which he isn’t on the football side.
Let the manager get on with it without the headline pans to Woodward with a face like a smacked arse. Sick of seeing him.
Let the manager get on with it without the headline pans to Woodward with a face like a smacked arse. Sick of seeing him.
He makes united millions and keeps the Glazers happy, other than that, he’s a useless piece of shit who doesn’t care about the footballing side of things.
He would take care of things with a polite smile.
Half of the people will be licking his balls again as soon as he brings in another new shiny marquee signing (that will probably flop) next summer.
The last five seasons with him in charge speak for themselves, he's a fool when it comes to making footballing decisions.
The last five seasons with him in charge speak for themselves, he's a fool when it comes to making footballing decisions.
No one is blaming him for not signing a defender alone.
He's the only common point in our failure post Fergie.
1 - 2 failing managerial appointments.
2 - Spent shite loads on average players during LVG years, leaving the squad at terrible shape despite all the money and numbers. He made our spending go sky rocket without improving on the squad.
3 - Giving giga salary of money to these average players, then we struggle to sell them.
4- Thanks to that we're at a position with loads of players running their contract down and will leave for free next summer, leaving the team and next manager up there for a complete disaster to manage.
5 - Signing as much marketable players available as possible without even thinking how we'll use them, properly even without asking the manager. It all started with Di Maria and Falcao who are sure as hell weren't LVG signings with the latter benched for most of the season.
6 - The current summer, and Fellaini one as well. Absolute disaster and failure in negotiation.
Ed has made the club a laughing stock and an absolute mess. 6 years of him managing the football side and we look worse and worse.
Time to throw him out of the window, or at least keep him away from managing the football side.
Check the transfer tweets thread out.
Thank God that Ed put the kibosh on the Alderweireld deal - definitely no better than our current CBs.
Okay, so Woodward extended Jose's contract, then in the following transfer window he overruled the manager on his targets cause he thinks he knows better, and after that shambles of a window has made multiple briefs to the press covering his own ass. Maybe sabotage is the wrong word but I don't know what else to call it. If you think we don't need a CB (among other signings) then you have not been paying attention for a while it seems.Sabotaged the manager
We do need a defender, but I'm not naive enough to believe one defender would make a great deal of difference in our current situation.
wouldn't be surprised if woodward with his silly obssession with marketable players had his head turned during the summer when the possibility of a more "fashionable" manager in zidane seem to display an interest in managing our club, then decided to halt the spending under mourinho.
Woodward is the problem here.
We hired Mourinho based on what exactly?
1. He wins trophies
2. His football isn’t attractive, it’s pragmatic
3. He buys established players
What did United then do? They took his successful formula and put the shackles on it by demanding he play some youngsters, and attempt more attacking football for the United crowd.
Result: United have stunted Mourinho’s strengths. Mourinho has stunted the development of young players.
However, this is not Mourinhos fault. They chose to hire him, so they should’ve feckin backed him by playing to his strengths. They gave up the right to continue the “United way” the very moment they gave him the job.
That’s why only one person is to blame. Ed Woodward.
The club seem more interested in his ability to seal a new sponsorship deal than his ability to handle transfer affairs, or have a cohesive long-term plan.
Our current squad is a mish-mash of players who fit different managers philosophies. It’s a giant mess, and it all belongs to Ed Woodward.
That’s why the team has no character, no clear vision, because it’s a compromise between the vision of Mourinho, the leftover visions of Moyes, LVG and the weak leadership of Ed Woodward. He should be moved out or given a role exclusively signing up sponsors, that’s all he’s good at.
One final thought. The sponsors are signing up based on the size of United’s fan base. If the state of our footballing affairs continues, then tomorrow’s kids, tomorrow’s footballers, and tomorrow’s largest fan base won’t be United’s. It’ll be City’s in Manchester, and globally we’ll have been left behind by the likes of Madrid, Barca et al.
Whatever happens with the manager it MUST BE Woodward out, this is his on-going s***-show!
We hired Mourinho based on what exactly?
1. He wins trophies
2. His football isn’t attractive, it’s pragmatic
3. He buys established players
What did United then do? They took his successful formula and put the shackles on it by demanding he play some youngsters, and attempt more attacking football for the United crowd.
Result: United have stunted Mourinho’s strengths. Mourinho has stunted the development of young players.
However, this is not Mourinhos fault. They chose to hire him, so they should’ve feckin backed him by playing to his strengths. They gave up the right to continue the “United way” the very moment they gave him the job.
That’s why only one person is to blame. Ed Woodward.
The club seem more interested in his ability to seal a new sponsorship deal than his ability to handle transfer affairs, or have a cohesive long-term plan.
Our current squad is a mish-mash of players who fit different managers philosophies. It’s a giant mess, and it all belongs to Ed Woodward.
That’s why the team has no character, no clear vision, because it’s a compromise between the vision of Mourinho, the leftover visions of Moyes, LVG and the weak leadership of Ed Woodward. He should be moved out or given a role exclusively signing up sponsors, that’s all he’s good at.
One final thought. The sponsors are signing up based on the size of United’s fan base. If the state of our footballing affairs continues, then tomorrow’s kids, tomorrow’s footballers, and tomorrow’s largest fan base won’t be United’s. It’ll be City’s in Manchester, and globally we’ll have been left behind by the likes of Madrid, Barca et al.
Whatever happens with the manager it MUST BE Woodward out, this is his on-going s***-show!
We should have just sold him.
Woodward's doing his job like the average Caftard who thinks they're a footballing genius after playing FM2018.
If he'd backed Mourinho, we might not be in this mess. As it is, the manager's position has become untenable.
There are no winners in this. Jose has to be one of the losers. If all were fair, Woodward should be the other.
If he'd backed Mourinho, we might not be in this mess. As it is, the manager's position has become untenable.
There are no winners in this. Jose has to be one of the losers. If all were fair, Woodward should be the other.
Never a football man. Taking decisions of the football team wtf is this it's bizarre. Don't want to support the manager and now can make a decision to sack him? Feck that too. Who made this man the decision maker?
I know all the fanboys get a stiffie when “Ed” splashes the cash, but do you trust him to appoint another manager?
I don't mean to be a d*ck but Ed is doing his job.
If his job were to ensure that Manchester United are one of the best footballing clubs in the world, like top 3, or even 5, then he's absolutely not qualified nor fit for it and should be fired. If his job to ensure that Manchester United have players required to play great football and compete for the big trophies - same again - he shouldn't be where he is.
But that is explicitly not his job. His job is to deliver maximum return to shareholders. Football clearly doesn't come into it, given our revenue versus league position in the past 6 seasons.
And Big Ed is damn good at delivering profits.
Being mad at him misses the point. We should have turned up the pressure when we could, earlier in the Glazers disgusting era and gotten them out. Ed is just doing his job, well.
The only way we fix United is to get rid of the Glazers, and run the club with the sole intent of being the best footballing team in the world. Not the most profitable.
If his job were to ensure that Manchester United are one of the best footballing clubs in the world, like top 3, or even 5, then he's absolutely not qualified nor fit for it and should be fired. If his job to ensure that Manchester United have players required to play great football and compete for the big trophies - same again - he shouldn't be where he is.
But that is explicitly not his job. His job is to deliver maximum return to shareholders. Football clearly doesn't come into it, given our revenue versus league position in the past 6 seasons.
And Big Ed is damn good at delivering profits.
Being mad at him misses the point. We should have turned up the pressure when we could, earlier in the Glazers disgusting era and gotten them out. Ed is just doing his job, well.
The only way we fix United is to get rid of the Glazers, and run the club with the sole intent of being the best footballing team in the world. Not the most profitable.
Say we'd signed Maguire. Who'd play along side him? Which of the four centrebacks, two of which Mourinho has signed in the past two seasons, in our first team squad that have already been directly responsible for goals so far this season?
One centreback was never going to fix the problems he has.
Mismanaging the club will come to bite him in the ass dont worry about that.
Once we start to lose more games and become considerably more mediocre the "star quality" of Man United as a football club will diminish and it will be hard then to get sponsors.
Now if this cnut could back the manager and GIVE him what he wants then it would be alright. Guess that's too hard so he will see the consequences.
Once we start to lose more games and become considerably more mediocre the "star quality" of Man United as a football club will diminish and it will be hard then to get sponsors.
Now if this cnut could back the manager and GIVE him what he wants then it would be alright. Guess that's too hard so he will see the consequences.
We have a rebuilding job on our hands. With the Glazers here, we won't get any stability in our football. Glazers will lose money if we finish outside the top 4. To build for the future, we may finish out of the top 4for a year or two.
We can forget about winning a title for a few years yet, as well.
We can forget about winning a title for a few years yet, as well.
Because when Brighton come in for players, they pay Brighton prices. That's how it works.
If a billionaire like Utd wanted to buy your house would you put the price up? Of course you would.
I hate this tw*t . He led us into battlefield with a huge whole in our defense that was quite known.
If he’s not giving backing to Jose in the transfer market then he damn sure better be making significant progress in revamping the club structure into a more continental structure, where it’s all about a first head coach and a number of directors supporting the said head coach, as well as those directors handling player acquisitions, youth team and playing philosophies in order to adapt to the head coach turnover we have in the modern football these days.
I know lots of examples of clubs who work like this and they win stuff constantly. There aren’t that many examples of one man as a manager overseeing everything and winning stuff constantly. Incidentally we had arguably the best one and he was quite possibly a once in a lifetime and may never happen again.
The way Utd is run is almost akin to a lower league club where you could have just one guy playing manager overseeing everything because the pressures aren’t as enormous and there’s a lot less to monitor. Man Utd is one of the footballing juggernauts of the world though where they have NYSE shareholders to appease and blue chip sponsors to manage, let alone onfield performances and the pressure to win trophies.
I know lots of examples of clubs who work like this and they win stuff constantly. There aren’t that many examples of one man as a manager overseeing everything and winning stuff constantly. Incidentally we had arguably the best one and he was quite possibly a once in a lifetime and may never happen again.
The way Utd is run is almost akin to a lower league club where you could have just one guy playing manager overseeing everything because the pressures aren’t as enormous and there’s a lot less to monitor. Man Utd is one of the footballing juggernauts of the world though where they have NYSE shareholders to appease and blue chip sponsors to manage, let alone onfield performances and the pressure to win trophies.
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