Woodie's going to enter the summer with his megadongle swinging and blow you all away.
6 top signings and we'll all be begging him to stay.
6 top signings and we'll all be begging him to stay.
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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The club is a joke.
They want to keep in within the family so to speak.
Thought, I was really surprised at the time why top manager like Mourinho who never failed building a balanced title winning teams in the past was so out of touch at our freaking club itself. His teams never lacked midfeild solidity and workrate in the past ever, yet he was going for players totally against norms wishing them to adhere to his style.
Yet again Mr Woodward throws all the blame at managers door itself. 3 managers were unsatisfied with him. 2 of them with huge pedigree and experience in the game. Can it all be blamed on managers door alone?
Its been said before, this club will go nowhere fast with Ed running the show.
We should reach out to VDS in my opinion, ticks the Jones the club box and has had a successful stint at Ajax.
What I don’t get is how, with six years in the job, Woodward has not got a little bit better at organising and finishing transfers. I know he knows very little about football, but he must have been to close to a thousand games, has been working at a football club every day, has football people around him. He’s also done hundreds of deals. Why does he still behave like it’s day one?
Regardless of whether they hire a DOF or not, he should be competent enough by now to be at least decent at running a football club. I remember people saying early on, after Moyes was appointed, that Ed was “a quick learner” but I don’t see it. Even this window he’s put Dan James on 70,000 a week.
Regardless of whether they hire a DOF or not, he should be competent enough by now to be at least decent at running a football club. I remember people saying early on, after Moyes was appointed, that Ed was “a quick learner” but I don’t see it. Even this window he’s put Dan James on 70,000 a week.
PSG and Henrique separated ways by mutual accord and a week later, they announce Leonardo as his replacement for DOF.
Meanwhile at United....
Meanwhile at United....
Serious question. Where do the pay slips get published? How do we always know how much our players are paid? Even Ole apparently gets more than Klippity and PayPal Guardiola even though they don't publish their salary. Just the ole.
Because people want to believe the worst
We've a fair idea because our financials are public knowledge. They are given every quarter at the share holder meetings.
You know the meetings for the investors, the business side...the ones folks then complain no football talk happens at
There are plenty of transfers he's done in a few days.
Remember LVG arrived late and we signed ADM, Falcao & Blind within 1 week and we released a number of players also.
Every transfer is different and its obviously extremely difficult to pin point exactly when talks commence to the point of it being closed out. I mean we signed James the other week but it was only posted on social media about a week later.
Flip side is we scouted Herrera and wanted to sign him the summer Moyes was appointed but couldn't due to work visa problems I think it was and then LVG OK'd the deal the following year.
They are extremely complex things to complete but our supporters don't often consider this.
Like every banker and ex banker he is a tunnel visioned little tosspot who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
I'm still absolutely gobsmacked we haven't brought one in considering the turmoil the club is in right now and all the potential/needed outgoings and incomings this pivotal summer.
When are we, as a fanbase, going to wake up? With the Glazers and Woodward in charge, nothing will change.
We ALL need to stop buying merchandise, stop following their social media and stop going to games. It was utterly depressing to see how quickly the season tickets sold out for next season.
I don't live in the UK so you might think "easy for you to say", asking someone to give up a season ticket they've held for years with no guarantee they'll ever get it back. But something drastic needs to happen. The only way I can see fortunes improving is if a new owner buys the Glazers out. But whilst the cash keeps on flowing this cancer will remain and continue to eat away at the club.
We ALL need to stop buying merchandise, stop following their social media and stop going to games. It was utterly depressing to see how quickly the season tickets sold out for next season.
I don't live in the UK so you might think "easy for you to say", asking someone to give up a season ticket they've held for years with no guarantee they'll ever get it back. But something drastic needs to happen. The only way I can see fortunes improving is if a new owner buys the Glazers out. But whilst the cash keeps on flowing this cancer will remain and continue to eat away at the club.
Well why should Ed do it now? He appointed a manager, some yes men alongside as well, transfer window underway...
If things turn shit he'll put it on the manager, market, get another yes man in, rinse and repeat.
It has become blatantly obvious that he won't let go of the footballing side.
That sounds like no one has a clue which direction club is going.
If we aren't bringing a dof in then we shouldn't spend any money this summer. If we spend 300m and sack ole in November then we are back to rebuilding for the 4th or 5th time.
"Woodward’s preference is to have a dedicated technical director in a role that is seen as crucial to United’s sustained revival"
"Woodward has been determined to move away from the pattern of entrusting long-term strategy to figures who are essentially in short-term roles. In other words, the manager".
"That United are onto their fourth permanent managerial appointment in the space of six years emphasises the folly of giving overarching control of the club’s philosophy to someone who is likely to have departed before any of their signings have reached the half-way point of their contracts"
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...l-a4168366.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true
"Woodward has been determined to move away from the pattern of entrusting long-term strategy to figures who are essentially in short-term roles. In other words, the manager".
"That United are onto their fourth permanent managerial appointment in the space of six years emphasises the folly of giving overarching control of the club’s philosophy to someone who is likely to have departed before any of their signings have reached the half-way point of their contracts"
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...l-a4168366.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true
This tells you all you need to know about how incompetent and corrupt Woodward is.
The director of football line is what gets trotted out when there is consternation about over our failure in the transfer market. Be prepared for it to be uttered again, after this summer.
Interesting to read from the Luckhurst piece that we have someone already in place right now as the 'technical director' in John Murtough.
Guess we'll take our time making the decision with Murtough in temporary charge.
Guess we'll take our time making the decision with Murtough in temporary charge.
Don't think ole and phelan will so much out of depth at the club like moyes, lvg and mourinho was.
Not to make fun of her name but does anyone else find the name Rebecca Britain sound like a super heroine alias. Like Captain Britain’s wife?
I imagine it more like Homer buying a car in The Simpsons.
Ed rings Leicester and shouts down the phone "IS THIS DEFENDER 70 MILLION POUNDS?"
Leicester: "Err...he is now!"
It is a smart way to build gradually, and how both Tottenham and Liverpool have built (like Ferguson before) using a core of young British talent to avoid a ‘mercenary culture’ being dominant.
It will take more time than some of the Real Madrid United fans on here will prefer, expect a few seasons of inconsistency to see it come to fruitition. But when successfull, there will be the basis that both Van Gaal and Mourinho lacked and lamented.
We need more than just a DoF in my opinion, we need a totally dedicated football department. City managed to take almost an entire team from Barca who now run their football operations. We need to aim to replicate a similar model in line with our competitors, as not doing so it proving detrimental to the club.
We can take Dortmund, City, Barca, Atleti, Bayern and Juve as examples of what having a good football department can do for the clubs fortunes on the pitch. They have a defined way of playing, they're aggressive in the market for local talent, value in transfers, and the best foreign talents. We could make a start on sweeping up the best young talent, and still have the ability to buy the 'star' players we need to compliment them.
If we can separate the football and commercial teams entirely we can then start working properly again. We could install a team of top professionals to manage the football side of things, from an overhaul of the scouting, improvements to academy and training facilities, as well as identifying players and managers to fit the style of play we want on the pitch.
I don't believe that Woody appointing a DoF will solve all of our problems. I can only see them being a yes man to Woody and then being chopped if things go wrong. We need a dedicated team to manage and constantly improve. I don't see anything of this sort happening all the while the current owners and management structure is in place, and we'd likely need a takeover in order to implement the changes needed to fix the mess the club finds itself in today.
We can take Dortmund, City, Barca, Atleti, Bayern and Juve as examples of what having a good football department can do for the clubs fortunes on the pitch. They have a defined way of playing, they're aggressive in the market for local talent, value in transfers, and the best foreign talents. We could make a start on sweeping up the best young talent, and still have the ability to buy the 'star' players we need to compliment them.
If we can separate the football and commercial teams entirely we can then start working properly again. We could install a team of top professionals to manage the football side of things, from an overhaul of the scouting, improvements to academy and training facilities, as well as identifying players and managers to fit the style of play we want on the pitch.
I don't believe that Woody appointing a DoF will solve all of our problems. I can only see them being a yes man to Woody and then being chopped if things go wrong. We need a dedicated team to manage and constantly improve. I don't see anything of this sort happening all the while the current owners and management structure is in place, and we'd likely need a takeover in order to implement the changes needed to fix the mess the club finds itself in today.
And we'll still be trying to offload players from both LVG, Mourinho and Moyes' reign on top of whoever the feck Ole signs.
Another name thrown into the hat, why has it taken this long to 'consider' Walsh? Woodward is out of his depth with the rebuilding.
Steve Walsh was great at Leicester when they were buying players on the cheap.
He showed at Everton what happens when he’s given 200m though...
He showed at Everton what happens when he’s given 200m though...
Who did he buy at Everton? I remember they got that Dutch player who was a dud. Still, think he'd be ok with someone like Fletcher who "gets" the club. Surely better than Woodward.
Taken from Grand Old team forum
Season 17/18
- Davy Klaassen-£23,600,000
- Jordan Pickford-£25,000,000
- Nathangelo Markelo-undisclosed
- Michael Keane-£25,000,000
- Sandro-£5,200,000
- Henry Onyekuru-£7,000,000
- Wayne Rooney-Free
- Josh Bowler-£1,500,000
- Lewis Gibson-£6,000,000
- Nikola Vlašić-£10,000,000
- Boris Mathis-Free
- Cuco Martina-Free
- Gylfi Sigurdsson-£45,000,000
- Dennis Adeniran-undisclosed
- Theo Walcott-£20,000,000
- Cenk Tosun-£27,000,000
- Maarten Stekelenburg-£1,000,000
- Idrissa Gueye-£7,100,000
- Ashley Williams-£12,000,000
- Yannick Bolasie-£25,000,000
- Ademola Lookman-£7,500,000
- Morgan Schneiderlin-£24,000,000
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/steve-walsh-with-the-benefit-of-hindsight.107101/
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/steve-walsh-with-the-benefit-of-hindsight.107101/page-12
I don't understand why we're still searching. We've seen that directors of football have literally offered themselves to us. What is taking so long. If it really is Woodward that doesn't want to relinquish power then we really are screwed for probably another 5,10 years.
Walsh was awful at Everton. He set us back years. A good scout maybe but no Director of Football.
Marcel Brands was our first choice then and I wish we hadve waited on him.
Signing loads of players for the same position: Rooney, Klaassen and Sigurdsson. £80m right there plus around 350k a week in wages.
How were all 3 meant to play in the same position...
Signing Sandro on £120,000 a week wages. We’ve loaned him everywhere since and can’t give him away. He’ll be here till the last second of his contract is up.
£25m for Bolasie on huge wages. Again we can’t give him away.
Tosun..Walcott...
The 2/3 signings we got right when he was here were Gueye, Pickford and Sigurdsson.
We thought his success at Leicester would have been good for us too but no.
There was no strategy to the signings at all.
Marcel Brands was our first choice then and I wish we hadve waited on him.
Signing loads of players for the same position: Rooney, Klaassen and Sigurdsson. £80m right there plus around 350k a week in wages.
How were all 3 meant to play in the same position...
Signing Sandro on £120,000 a week wages. We’ve loaned him everywhere since and can’t give him away. He’ll be here till the last second of his contract is up.
£25m for Bolasie on huge wages. Again we can’t give him away.
Tosun..Walcott...
The 2/3 signings we got right when he was here were Gueye, Pickford and Sigurdsson.
We thought his success at Leicester would have been good for us too but no.
There was no strategy to the signings at all.
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