The Alderweireld one disappointed me but Tottenham wanted Martial or a ridiculous sum. If that isn't the pinnacle of shorttermism then I don't know what is. Walking away from those demands are far from a sackable offense. It's within reasonable
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Yeah I bet the do. Especially getting them half of the titles in their history.
They've won 1 title that wasn't under Jose in the last what 60 years?
I guess a guy like Woodward who can't work out a simple release clause would be the better choice to veto footballing matters?
So, Ed will be taking over first team training soon id guess. this season will be fun
On two young CBs who have showed that they have potential, one of whom was almost an unknown quantity for most people on this forum.
Mourinhos record for rebuilding teams speaks for itself. What he did with Inter Chelsea and Madrid speaks for itself. What has woodword done in the game to veto Mourinhos singings? Please enlighten me.
Bailly is an excellent CB, he just can't stay fit. Lindelof has been poor but even then it was only 35m. That's pennies for a club with our revenue and in this market. Do you suggest we just sit on our hands and do nothing or admit we made previous mistakes and try to rectify it?
Nope, read the briefs mate. We didn't even make a bid for Alderweireld because apparently the board didn't see him as better than our current CB crop.
I'd suggest he could set up a more attacking system.
Pretty harsh seeing that he has pretty much backed Jose for 2 years on almost every deal. There is no way 60m on Toby is value for money. I don't care if we have 100m to spend, but once we start splashing the cash stupidly we set an expectation where clubs think we will be stupid with money.
The problems listed by the articles with Alderweireld all relate to his long term prospects, or rather his age rather than his qualityNope, read the briefs mate. We didn't even make a bid for Alderweireld because apparently the board didn't see him as better than our current CB crop.
Perhaps Alex Sandro wasn't available, just didn't want to come or he was too expensive as well.
Have always maintained the Sandro links were media manufactured. Notice how these statements don't even make mention of him or a potential deal breaking down
The fact that people say we had unrealistic targets just speaks volumes for what these players think of United. Why would Varane ever join us when he's at a club he knows will always compete for every title rather than get outspent and dominated by City. Woodward is pathetic and needs to go.
Is there any defender younger than 29 that is on the same level as Alderweireld? Perhaps only Varane..
I'm not gullible enough to believe that. But as you were...
Please don’t try to patronise me I’ve been a united fan for over 40 years yes we have always brought kids through particularly the class of 92
But we have always throughout the last 4 decades been the Uk big spenders regularly breaking records or spending big money for “star “players whether it be as far back as Ian Moore , Ted mcdougal , Bryan Robson , Lou macari , Brian mclair , Gary pallister and more recently the likes of Pogba . The football world has changed and few teams / managers have the luxury of allowing kids to develop as every elite manager knows he is no more than 5 bad defeats away from the sack ,we need a title and we need it quickly or else I can see many years in the wilderness ahead of us , we improved last year but in this window we have missed a golden opportunity to grow again rather than falling further behind city , we now look like a club whose ambitions revolve around finishing in the top 4
If what is coming out tonight is true, then this guy is an even bigger sack of shit than I thought. Either he believes in Jose and buys the players he wants, or he gets rid.
To wait till the day the transfer window shuts to start briefing that he didn't like Jose's targets is beyond idiotic. Jose gave him his list months ago. He should have told him then and there that he either focuses on players below 25 or tells him he's not the right man for the job. Now we're here with feck all and I'm guessing a pissed off manager.
To wait till the day the transfer window shuts to start briefing that he didn't like Jose's targets is beyond idiotic. Jose gave him his list months ago. He should have told him then and there that he either focuses on players below 25 or tells him he's not the right man for the job. Now we're here with feck all and I'm guessing a pissed off manager.
£65M for a 27 year old LB was the touted price, steep but when you are in our situation of not having a decent LB, it's needs must.
Our spending in previous windows speaks for itself. Those are actions that back the words
What the hell has Woodward achieved in football that gives him the clout to undercut a two time Champions League winner, and eight time league winner across four different countries?
Nothing is the answer.
His real world experience extends to the failed tenures of Moyes and LvG. Beyond that, he's piggy backing on the successes of Jose himself. The gall of the man to make footballing decisions as extreme as vetoing scouted targets...
If Ed is the final authority on these matters, why even bother having a manager or a scouting network? He's like an FM playing kid who thinks he knows it all. If this were a Director of Football who'd been in the game for years, I'd understand. But that simply isn't the case here.
Nothing is the answer.
His real world experience extends to the failed tenures of Moyes and LvG. Beyond that, he's piggy backing on the successes of Jose himself. The gall of the man to make footballing decisions as extreme as vetoing scouted targets...
If Ed is the final authority on these matters, why even bother having a manager or a scouting network? He's like an FM playing kid who thinks he knows it all. If this were a Director of Football who'd been in the game for years, I'd understand. But that simply isn't the case here.
There is an old proverb. " Don't cut of the nose to spite the face"
As a rival fan, Chelsea hs failed to added quality in two windows and both those windows we finish 5th and 10th. United needed an experienced leader at CB, you needed a RW and you need better fullbacks. Your squad finished 19 points behind city and your only signing fred will only close 3 points at bests out of that 19.
At Chelsea we complain over our board but once in awhile they get it right and thiss window they got it right. United is at a make it or break it season. What happens when Baily get's injured again? Smalling and Jones? what happens if valencia or young is injured?
As a rival fan, Chelsea hs failed to added quality in two windows and both those windows we finish 5th and 10th. United needed an experienced leader at CB, you needed a RW and you need better fullbacks. Your squad finished 19 points behind city and your only signing fred will only close 3 points at bests out of that 19.
At Chelsea we complain over our board but once in awhile they get it right and thiss window they got it right. United is at a make it or break it season. What happens when Baily get's injured again? Smalling and Jones? what happens if valencia or young is injured?
If the price for him wasn't the problem, it's still possible that he didn't want to come or Juventus genuinely didn't want to sell. I don't understand why we didn't sign a talented LB and just got rid of Shaw though.
It's possible he didn't want to come, but the media would have jumped on that I imagine. Aside from him though I don't know why we didn't look at Telles or Bernat.
Should be sacked immediately. It’s him our Mourinho as he clearly vetoed his transfer options. I’d rather the dwarf went.
Not that keen on Bernat. Telles would have helped. Jorge, Ferland Mendy or Jordan Amavi could have taken Shaw's place though.
Didn't Castles say that we agreed personal terms with him anyway ?
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Exactly. No matter what you think of Jose and his targets, everyone has to see that this is a huge problem for us.
At the end of the day, this is our club and we have to endure the ups and downs come what may. What Ed Woodward has done is fecked us all over, especially for the coming season. He's left us in fecking no man's land with a manager that some don't want and the rest believed should have had the players he wanted. None of us are winners here. Well done Ed Woodward.
Forgot about that. Not that I believe it though. I think Juventus didn't want to sell.
Fecking dickhead!
It happens in all professions. Imagine being Jeff Dean - widely recognized as one of the best programmers and computer scientists of all time - who has to report and work under Sundar Pichai - an economist who probably hasn't ever coded in his life.
For whatever reason, humanity decided that chief executive officers actually lead the company. It is unfair, but so is for me to do whatever my boss asks, and if I even have the best ever idea, but my boss doesn't fancy it, I cannot do it on my working hours.
Now imagine if your idea costs hundreds of millions and the boss still doesn't fancy it. Especially after he gave you 400m+ and you repayed it with a subpar job. Life is unfair!
Gimenez? The guy whom Atletico and Simeone chose instead of Alder.
Umtiti? Koulibaly?
People forget that he backed Moyes, LVG, and even Mourinho fully, he's even backed Mourinho with a new Fellaini contract, Fred, Dalot etc this summer, so it's not like he hasn't been backing the managers at all. I think it was smart to veto the buying of a new defender after we've already bought 2.
Gimenez isn't at his level yet. He might become and is perhaps the most promising player out of the young crop, but not now. He also isn't the best passer of the lot.
Umtiti is even more untouchable than Varane.
Koulibaly is 2 years younger than Tony and again I'd have Toby to play out the ball at the back.
Yep. Seems like a cnut move.
The amazing thing is that he’s 100% bulletproof. The Glazers won’t get rid of him!
Glazers care only for one thing, the stock value (even the always mentioned dividends is pocket money in comparison). As long as stocks are going up - or at least, they believe that they are going to go up - Woodward will continue being executive director.
I reckon it's just a pure lack of self-awareness.
This writer seems to mistake his opinion for consensus
fecking clown knows nothing about football or what it takes to build a winning team. feck off.
Juve said last year that are willing to sell him if the right offer comes.
This year he was basically up for any takers at around 50-60m pounds..
We would have signed him, if that was true.
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