The level of incompetence is shocking. We are run highly unprofessional and it is damaging the club long term. The lack of strategy, proper set up but also communication is not understandable and we will continue to suffer
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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it is even worse when you look at all our transfers since Fergie left, you would do well to name 5 successes. Players brought for high fees, then we struggle to sell them.
Why are people jumping on the possibility of appointing Phelan without even knowing how he will do? Just stop supporting the club
What has scouting and the youth set up got to do with the shambolic recruitment strategy where successive managers spend an absolute fortune and try to sell all of their predecessors' players?
Does the scouting and youth system account for paying an over the hill dud such a massive high profile salary that the players carrying his abject performances all want significant increases?
Does it account for allowing the majority of players run their contracts right down, pay over the odds to keep some, look like losing key players and completely unsettle 2 of the club's best players at a key point of the season?
The youth set up has definitely improved under Nicky Butt and the club definitely deserves credit for that. But then you have Sbragia's shambles undoing all of that good work with the u23s.
Its common recruitment logic, you hire someone that has successful past experience at every level. You dont try inexperienced candidates just to see how will they do.
We already hired a manager who is inexperienced. Now we giving him someone inexperienced to be in charge of recruitment.
I’d be behind Phelan getting the job. It makes more sense than hiring some obscure German who would please the hipsters, but ultimately be as at odds with the club as Jose was. I thought the point of appointing a DOF was to ensure our recruitment policy at all times reflected The United Way™.
How can you do that unless you know what that is?
How can you do that unless you know what that is?
And that would also bring into play other quality signings for the other two clubs including
City - De Bruyne, Sterling, Otamendi, Stones, Sane, Gündogan and Jesus
Liverpool - Mane, Wijnaldum, Firmino, Milner and Gomez
How much did Kante cost Chelsea? 40-50 million? What a freaking bargain that was.
No it does not. Which is the point.
I am more pro-Woodward than most on here, but to employ a dictator/wannabe-Ferguson like Mourinho when we actually started to have a decent youth and scouting setup in place was an incredible stupid decision.
Mourinho wanted to use his own contacts for transfers and had little or no interest in using the club´s scouting network for that. It was never going to work and it did not. We should have hired a more modern manager who was used to working with other parts of a club. Things might have been different then.
Thats why I dont want to sell out the clubs scouting setup just yet, it needs time to prove itself with a manager/DoF that allows it to, instead of calling Jorge Mendes and crying as soon as things go to shit.
I have touched upon the run the contracts down issue in other threads. Its actually makes completely financial sense as long its for older and squad players which it has been for United so far. I wont repeat the argumentation here. The alternative is to - prematurely - have less wage room for signing new players or prolonging players like De Geas contract.
More like Ed bringing in former Fergie associations in the desperate hope that some of the Great Man’s magic has worn off on them.
The Italian clubs have no money.
Yet AC Milan seem to be finding their way with the little they have although FFP does seem very much a deterrent for them.
United don't really have an excuse.
Rejoice!
Shortsighted, lazy appointment. Yeah he gets Utd but where is his CV to show us he has a track record in a role like this. We are f***ed till Ed and the Glazers leave the club.
This seems silly.
Phelan as DoF seems good news to me. Someone who knows what a Man United player is and what is actually needed for the team. Some of your reactions are way overboard.
He was technical director at the Australian club
Yeah, they were bottom of the Australian league....
I would still like us to bring in Paul Mitchell to work alongside Phelan.
well Ole got his arse kicked at Cardiff. That didn't stop the biggest club in the world to give him a three year contract.
Dunno why you'd have something against Phelan as DOF.
So you expect him to be technical director, manager, coach, player and the fecking tea lady now as well...
Christ! Some of you fecking people...
I hope our current situation, as well as players, culls some of our fecking so-called fans as well.
If you squint your eyes and look through some red-tinted specs, Phelan definitely looks like a sporting director. Especially with that exotic continental beard he's just grown - just needs to change his name to Mikaël Phelaninho now 
What experience did Marc Overmars have at his role at Ajax?? Just asking, as that's played out quite nicely.
I get what your saying, we probably need someone who can hit the ground running but if you ask me Phelan was made for this role, he has a great eye for talent and is United through and through.
Great decision if you ask me,
I hope Phelan has skills and more importantly, some freedom rather than Woodward vetoing all his suggestions. No point hiring him as a Technical Director if Woodward still interferes with transfer decisions.
Granted, stubborn Ed won't ever adopt a purely hands-off approach, but some division of labor would be a start.
Granted, stubborn Ed won't ever adopt a purely hands-off approach, but some division of labor would be a start.
Real Madrid didn't hire Ole.
They did hire Solari though although they are at least ruthless when things aren't working out.
Knowing and being able to implement a vision to get said ManUtd type players are two different things.....
I really think we're in deep trouble, I pray with all my heart that I'm wrong.
Calm down. This is a discussions forum and people will have differing opinions. Just because you don't like mine, it doesn't mean i'm wrong.
we'll see what his actual role and influence will be. It's easy to dismiss him as a "lazy" choice, but I actually think it could work well.
We didn’t. He went back to Norway for 2 years. He knows he made mistakes.
You make it sound as though he took a train direct from Cardiff straight into then hot seat at Utd. It’s hardly knee jerk
Jesus Christ. I’m a big fan of Phelan as a coach but he is not qualified for this role at all.
It's quite urgent that Ole expands his coaching team to include proper experienced forward thinking coaches. Carrick as assistant makes me more nervous than Mike as tech director. He doesn't have the experience for assistant. Ole needs a better tactician beside him, it is essential. I hate this jobs for the boys crap!
He's not Edward Woodward, so it's a start.
Ah he went to Molde. Serious business.
So if rumours are right then we've got someone who was out of depth as technical director in Australia leading someone who proved to be out of depth at Cardiff. Together they can't stop losing games. Jeez it would be comical if only it happened at Liverpool
It remains to be seen how he’d do. What was Marc Overmars track record before taking the post at Ajax in 2012? It’s take 5-6 years to start bearing fruit
Has he got any experience in that role?
Look, you’ve made your mind up; it’s not the appointment you wanted. But to keep dragging up, Cardiff,Molde is sounding monotonous
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