Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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I don’t agree if it’s Phelan but I want to know why people are against it if it is him?

You just need someone with football smarts to pick out who the right players are so don’t you think Phelan knows that having served here under the glory years? At the end of the day it’s similar to a consultant role to player transfers to the manager. Or is it a bigger deal than people are making it out to be because as it stands not that I can see. “ DOF ” isn’t going to be a mad chemist who creates solutions or mean there will be no imperfections. It’s just an intelligent football mind who can identify the right players/fits at the end of the day.
 
Phelan has no experience of the role whatsoever. But feck it, I've lost the desire to have expectations now. Let's just see what the ride has it store I guess.
 
kouroux said:
We need help from the outside. This doesn't look good
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Yep.

When you think of modernising a club, an ex player (as manager) and an ex assistant manager (as DoF or technical director), to me, isn't what springs to mind as the sensible choice.
 
I can't believe I am seeing the level of mismanagement in a world's elite club like us on such a scale like this.

Absolute clowns who have hijacked the powers after Fergie stepped down.
 
If we were getting someone from United, I would rather it be VdS. At least it would slightly increase our chances at attaining De Ligt because of his obvious connections and because he would know just how certain a big talent he is.

Please don't be Phelan
 
All this about it needs to be somebody who knows the club. I am actually beginning to think it needs someone from outside. Someone who is completely impartial. There is far too much sentimentality going on here. I want someone who doesn't just think we will keep Jones/Smalling/Young because I know them and they are great lads, ignoring the fact they lack ability. Phelan will have his favourites and that its not a good idea.

Someone mentioned VDS. I could cope with that, but not Phelan. Prefer him as Ole's sidekick.
 
Phelan believes the club went to shit under Moyes because Moyes (unlike every manager in the world) decided to bring in his own coaching staff.

Rather than the fact that Moyes was just a fecking shit manager and even having Guardiola in his staff would've done feck all.
 
It really would show just how clueless Ed is if Phelan gets the role. Even if the idea was to promote from within, there are far better options.

What a joke.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Yep.

When you think of modernising a club, an ex player (as manager) and an ex assistant manager (as DoF or technical director), to me, isn't what springs to mind as the sensible choice.
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Also the last thing we need is one of Fergies disciples in power. Fergie was a genius, one of the greatest managers of all time.

But generally when you look at the type of people he liked working with, they are on the more challenged end of the intellect spectrum. The likes of Gary Neville and co make great followers, they would run through the wall for him without challenging a single thing. But usually, there isn't usually too much going on up top - and you can tell that everytime he opens his mouth. The likes of Phelan fall in the same group.
 
Ole is going to be hard sell to any top players we want to buy, and Phelean as DOF is going to make it even harder, even if he does have a clue what he's doing.

We just need to move on from Fergie pulling the strings, and trying to recreate something that isn't going to work anymore.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
All this about it needs to be somebody who knows the club. I am actually beginning to think it needs someone from outside. Someone who is completely impartial. There is far too much sentimentality going on here. I want someone who doesn't just think we will keep Jones/Smalling/Young because I know them and they are great lads, ignoring the fact they lack ability. Phelan will have his favourites and that its not a good idea.

Someone mentioned VDS. I could cope with that, but not Phelan. Prefer him as Ole's sidekick.
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The club needs to evolve desperately, we keep looking back and not forward, just like Liverpool did for years. We need to move on, or we'll continue to fall further and further behind.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Ole is going to be hard sell to any top players we want to buy, and Phelean as DOF is going to make it even harder, even if he does have a clue what he's doing.

We just need to move on from Fergie pulling the strings, and trying to recreate something that isn't going to work anymore.
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You listen to Ole and it is SAF this, SAF that. It was a different era and as you say he was a genius. Bring Phelan in and I am getting worried. Footballers have changed, yes we need ones who can work harder, that is fair enough, but you now need to coax the best out of them, not bully, it doesn't work any longer as players are more powerful.
 
The club desperately needs to be modernised. How a team with such riches, that doesn't exactly shy away from spending money can continue to feck up every major decision I've no idea, actually I've got a pretty good idea.
 
Judas said:
The club desperately needs to be modernised. How a team with such riches, that doesn't exactly shy away from spending money can continue to feck up every major decision I've no idea, actually I've got a pretty good idea.
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Because of the scruffiest CEO of all time.
 
I'm sorry but if Mike Phelan is appointed DoF or Technical Director it will be ridiculous. A complete lack of planning or vision. Simply finding a cheap alternative to finding an experienced guy.

Wish the Glazers and Woodward would just feck off
 
buckooo1978 said:
I'm sorry but if Mike Phelan is appointed DoF or Technical Director it will be ridiculous. A complete lack of planning or vision. Simply finding a cheap alternative to finding an experienced guy.

Wish the Glazers and Woodward would just feck off
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As was Ole. Cheaper to employ and cheaper to sack.
 
We truly are the “banter” club. Absolute joke of a choice.


Just another thing to add to the list of things that aren’t going to end well.
 
Let’s just kill the whole thing off and go and support the women’s team instead.
 
I'm not a fan of Phelan at all being the DOF.

I don't think it's a coincidence since he became SAF's leading assistant, our football started to deteriorate.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Ole is going to be hard sell to any top players we want to buy, and Phelean as DOF is going to make it even harder, even if he does have a clue what he's doing.

We just need to move on from Fergie pulling the strings, and trying to recreate something that isn't going to work anymore.
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Exactly.

Some of our fans on here were comparing Ole to Fergie.

It's nonsense. SAF is gone. There won't be another like him ever.

We need to get with the times and modernize the club.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but Overmars is the Ajax director of football not VDS, and I’m pretty sure he didn’t have any experience in the role and everyone’s agreeing he’s doing a great job? Don’t see why Phelan wouldn’t, Overmars is great because he’s immersed in Ajax, Phelans worked at the club as a player and a coach for a long time. Pretty sure he knows what a united player is.
 
AdNani said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but Overmars is the Ajax director of football not VDS, and I’m pretty sure he didn’t have any experience in the role and everyone’s agreeing he’s doing a great job? Don’t see why Phelan wouldn’t, Overmars is great because he’s immersed in Ajax, Phelans worked at the club as a player and a coach for a long time. Pretty sure he knows what a united player is.
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What is a United player?
 
Sorry, I haven’t read the whole thread but has VDS been mentioned as a possible DOF ? He must be having some sort of major input at Ajax as current CEO and we should be all over him. Watching Ajax is great fun, they’re fearless and have that lovely blend of youthful exuberance with the odd senior pro balancing it out.
 
dogwithabone said:
Sorry, I haven’t read the whole thread but has VDS been mentioned as a possible DOF ? He must be having some sort of major input at Ajax as current CEO and we should be all over him. Watching Ajax is great fun, they’re fearless and have that lovely blend of youthful exuberance with the odd senior pro balancing it out.
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He is not in charge of the transfers Overmars is Van Der Sar is working more in the marketing and business side.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
He is not in charge of the transfers Overmars is Van Der Sar is working more in the marketing and business side.
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Is he ? If he has no football input you’d have thought Ajax would have hired a marketing and business guru rather than a random ex footballer.

Seems an odd choice but I’m not convinced he is having no football input.
 
Controversial view here but I really don’t rate Phelan, he should be nowhere near such an important role. His work under Fergie was overrated and our standard of football dropped when he came in after Queiroz.

“#mufc are ready to offer Mike Phelan the role of technical director, and promote Carrick to assistant manager. Phelan wants to retain an influence on match days but the club want him to be responsible for the overseeing of the rebuild #mulive [mail]”
 
It is funny everyone is crying over Phelan to be promoted as a technical director because of lack of experience he has, they want VDS who have no experience working in that role.

There are a couple of DoF who have no experience in this role at the start then they ended up becoming successful, like Txiki.
 
MancunianAngels said:
Controversial view here but I really don’t rate Phelan, he should be nowhere near such an important role. His work under Fergie was overrated and our standard of football dropped when he came in after Queiroz.

“#mufc are ready to offer Mike Phelan the role of technical director, and promote Carrick to assistant manager. Phelan wants to retain an influence on match days but the club want him to be responsible for the overseeing of the rebuild #mulive [mail]”
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That sum up your knowledge of Phelan and Queiroz. I am sure the brand of football under Queiroz is amazing, right?
 
dogwithabone said:
Is he ? If he has no football input you’d have thought Ajax would have hired a marketing and business guru rather than a random ex footballer.

Seems an odd choice but I’m not convinced he is having no football input.
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Yeah it's true, Overmars is the DOF and VDS is the CEO.
 
dogwithabone said:
Is he ? If he has no football input you’d have thought Ajax would have hired a marketing and business guru rather than a random ex footballer.

Seems an odd choice but I’m not convinced he is having no football input.
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Edwin Van Der Sar is their CEO. He's basically their Woodward. He has a masters in Marketing Management. That separates him from being some "random ex footballer". You should watch his Cambridge forum on youtube. It gives an excellent insight into his ability in his post-football career.

He remembers: “There were a lot of pre-season tours at United of the US and China, and I soaked up everything I could from David Gill [the chairman at the time] and the marketing guys – it made me see a whole new side of football.”

Applying the United model at Ajax
Since taking the reigns at Ajax, van der Sar says he has taken on those learnings from Gill.
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I personally don't see him moving down into a DOF role when there isn't anything established. We have to build infrastructure from scratch, we need somebody who is hands on with experience in modernization.
 
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