Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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For me Ed has been the one constant in the death spiral that is the post-Fergie era. From his disastrous opening transfer window to the farce we watched play out over the Summer. His weird crypto-galactico policy leaves us constantly chasing players who don't particularly want to play for us while our managers stew wondering whether he's actually going to sign anyone they asked him to. And I say this as someone who used to defend him.
I don't think they were ever happy in the last 6 years but as I said SAF always believed in patience and keep giving chances till you're 100% sure it's not working out. If he talked now he'll say what he said when LVG and Moyes were there, that they're good managers and deserve time ..etc. This old generation is mostly all the same because at this time patience usually rewarded you off. Football has changed now though and you need to be ruthless.
What they say to the media and what they actually think, are two separate things IMO.
There's obviously no way to prove it, but I'm convinced that both SAF and SBC have had enough of Woodward, the Glazers and Mourinho.
Like I say, you probably won't hear them complaining to the press about it though as it is not very...becoming or classy. That's my problem.
This is why I want them to speak out about it. They hold so much (external) power and influence which can make an impact.
I also think this is as bad as it has been since SAF retired. 3 failed managers in a row is enough to tell them, and the world, that something isn't working. It's time for a change.
Might be wrong but I remember reading something about SAF and Charlton not being asked about the big decisions or their input not having much weight. That was under Moyes or LVG though, can't see that changing mind.
He's not.
Board of Directors-
Avram Glazer
Joel Glazer
Ed Woodward
Richard Arnold
Cliff Baty
Kevin Glazer
Bryan Glazer
Darcie Glazer
Edward Glazer
Robert Leitao
John Hooks
Yeah I'm pretty sure they didn't like anything of what we saw in these 6 years. No one can like it actually, but as you said what's said in media is usually different.
Maybe. Although, I doubt his voice has much impact when it comes to big decisions in the club.
Half of this lot can't even explain the offside rule
Duncan Castles - Manchester United would have to pay £24m to sack Jose Mourinho, going down to £18m should they fail to qualify for the Champions League
How exactly did this clown get hired?
18 m even if he fails to get top 4 ? Then Ed should be out first.
Also, if there is only a difference of 6m between now and March (or whenever we reaches that point where mathematically fail) why are we hanging on for few millions?
If you look at Woodwards fellow directors, which consists of a 12 member board, and whose business experience cover a wide range of businesses including betting ,telecommunications / media, charities and legal companies.
Of those 12 members the first five being Aviram and Joel Glazier, Woodward, Richard Arnold and Cliff Baty make up the Managing Board which as the name suggests is responsible for running the club and of those 5 only Woodward, Arnold and Baty are resident in the UK.
Of those 12 members the first five being Aviram and Joel Glazier, Woodward, Richard Arnold and Cliff Baty make up the Managing Board which as the name suggests is responsible for running the club and of those 5 only Woodward, Arnold and Baty are resident in the UK.
Duncan Castles - Manchester United would have to pay £24m to sack Jose Mourinho, going down to £18m should they fail to qualify for the Champions League
How exactly did this clown get hired?
I really hope the only reason Jose's still around is because we're still considering options for a replacement and not because we want to save £6m. That's without factoring in the money we'd lose from not being in the CL too.
I probably know more about footbal than Darcie Glazer!
We have at least £200m of talent that is misfiring under this manager (Pogba, Lukaku, Fred) - someone needs to convince Woody that using £24m to potentially unlock that is a sweet deal.
We also have contract issues with Martial and De Gea as well as potential problem with Pogba this summer.
Indeed, and I expect there will be others at the club strongly considering their futures under this manager. Mata and Herrera have already arguably nearly pissed away the best part of their careers under a succession of terrible managers.
The club is dead, we are offering contracts to dead wood, it's the beginning of the end.
To be fair I'd want all three of them in the squad next year to help dig us out of the shit. Not starters by any means but there are far more useless players in the squad.
Ashley Young will be like "Who the hell gives me an extension"
All 3 are shit, they wouldn't get into the Cardiff squad.
I’m ok with Mata and, especially, Herrera tbh.
As for Young, though. If Mourinho is tired of watching Robertson, imagine how the fans feel watching this board and its decision-making. I am, literally, tired of this club
Honestly fine with this. I can imagine Mata being a player that an attacking coach would love. Herrera at the very least is a great bench option and when used right he can be vital in big games. Young is fine as long as he's limited to being depth for the fullbacks. Having a player who can play both flanks would help when we have our annual injury crisis.
I'd be more annoyed if we're giving the likes of Valencia, Jones, Darmian and Rojo new contracts.
Rojo is already on till 2021.
Saf DEFINITELY hasn’t a voice on the board on footballing matters. That was clearly illustrated by G Nev’s rant last night about the board.
Bobby too, I suspect. So who are the footballing people at that level if not Fergie and Bobby? There aren't any.
Herrera i can understand as he still has some transfer value but the fact that we aren't in the CL next season should be used to trim the squad down of players like Mata who are never going to be first choice in the future, give a youngster his spot for the Europa league etc.
6mil is all we're saving? They can't take it our of the money they saved from the summer? Also is the severance sum in addition to the contract settlement? I'd imagine it could add another 5-10m if it is
Giving extension to Young is extremely ridiculous. Everything point to that next season is another write off and a struggle for top 4. Next manager will have all these deadwood and surely will ask to evaluate them himself, which will end in another top 4 battle, rinse and repeat.
Same. Don't have any problems with it and there are players who needs to go way before they do.
They aren't thinking about saving £6million.
They are thinking about not having to pay him AT ALL if he makes top 4 by the skin of his teeth. Believe me, they would prefer him be here next season with a bunch of contract renewals for jobbers (again, way cheaper to renew the veterans who scraped us to top 4 than to go out and actively replace/upgrade on them).
They are happy with mediocrity as long as we scrape top 4. If that was to happen (it won't), Jose will be fired, but they'd prefer to not have to pay him off at all.
They are thinking about not having to pay him AT ALL if he makes top 4 by the skin of his teeth. Believe me, they would prefer him be here next season with a bunch of contract renewals for jobbers (again, way cheaper to renew the veterans who scraped us to top 4 than to go out and actively replace/upgrade on them).
They are happy with mediocrity as long as we scrape top 4. If that was to happen (it won't), Jose will be fired, but they'd prefer to not have to pay him off at all.
Exactly. Like Nev said yesterday, the successful guys from the marketing/money side of the business came over to the football side of things and the rest, well as they say, the rest is history.
Maybe naively, I’m quite sure Ed will start making the correct footballing decisions. Everyone, I mean everyone, can see our problems and know what the solution is.
I genuinely don’t think we’re many years away from being successful again. The club as a whole are in a good place. Grwat marketing, great profits, even a very good youth system. Just the last part needs sorting. Bring in the football men onto the football side of things and watch us flourish again. We’re not quite as doomed as the media l/Jose would like us to believe, however, Ed’s next move has to be the correct one.
I’m sure he has a plan and I’m guessing he can’t quite execute that plan just yet, hence hanging on to Mourinho, for now.
Agreed, all three have seemingly good attitudes as well. While not starters, they're something that a new manager can work with. Far bigger issues within the club than giving these three new contracts.
Exactly. That list is the perfect example of why we are where we are. Just lackies and suits.
But he's the buffer between the board and criticism.
Christ, we're in a mess.
The man was willing to part with 100 million quid for a defender and Perez refused.
The crazy thing is Woodward has tried to get him everything he's asked for and like every club he hasn't been able to deliver everything.
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