It’s too early to say that Blanc is suitable for the United job he doesn’t have enough managerial experience yet. He certainly looks promising though. I personally wouldn’t want Mourinho, I don’t think he’d carry on the traditions of United. He doesn’t play entertaining attacking football, his teams in general are pretty dire to watch. He doesn’t seem to show any faith in young players either he prefers to go for the finished article. He shows no class in defeat which even Fergie can manage sometimes and lets not forget he’s also a massive cnut.
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Ligue 1Seriously? Are you actually being serious? Le Guen won Ligue 1 remember, and look how badly he did at Rangers. Houllier one Ligue 1, Alain Perrin did for gods sake!.
To write off a young manager just because a select few managers have failed in other leagues is pretty stupid. Wenger hasn't done too badly in his career despite coming from lowly ligue 1.
Mourinho will go to Real Madrid to complete his collection of top league titles once Pellegrini gets the sack.
Then take over from Sir Alex in summer 2011.
Then take over from Sir Alex in summer 2011.
You can't dismiss a manager like Blanc just because other people havn't done great when moving leagues. So far Blanc has done a great job whenever he's had the chance, and overthrew Lyon which at some points looked impossible.
It's silly to completely dismiss him.
Honestly, some of those things like being a cnut and attacking football could be disputed, but I just have a feeling he's not a "United manager". Of course since I've been born the only manager I've seen is Alex Ferguson, but I just don't seem so many qualities I seein Sir Alex in Mourinho. Sure Mourinho looks like a winner, and sure he can handle players, but he seems much more ego orientated, seems much more interesting in his own little buble rather than football in general and I just remember him being a dick when he went Chelsea. An entertaining dick, who was often right, but a dick none the less. There's no particular reason I don't want Mourinho, he just doesn't seem like a United manager to me.
If someone mentions Martin O'Neil as Fergie's replacement I am going to LOL.
Exactly, and SAF came from the Scottish league. Some people don't seem to get that we don't have to appoint someone who's won the CL/World Cup
You do realise the United job now (in a couple of years) is very very different from when Sir Alex took over?
The footballing world was so much different in 1986 than present day. It's well off to even compare it to today. I doubt someone like SAF would be given the chance today, unless United were struggling ala 1986 and not perennial contenders. He'd have to win the European Cup at a club like Spurs or Villa to even get a chance IMO (I could be wrong), such is the precedent SAF has set and in today's "win now or be gone" demands. Mourinho stands out at this point apart from all others with Wenger arguably second best.
The next manager has to have achieved both domestic and continental success to be able to come in and not only massage massive egos but also handle the pressure himself. How is a manager going to earn top class player's respect when the chips are down if he's never won anything worth notice and his best CV remark is "200x semi-finalist in League Cup?"
I don't see a single English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh manager out there ready for this job. That leaves it to a handful of proven continental managers.
I personally feel Mourinho would remain at United for many years as it would be the ideal job for himself. The biggest job in all of sports.
Nope, after Barça-Inter...surely has been archived any type of interest on Mou
) O'Neill will be 60, too oldYes, but I don't think we have to appoint someone who's won everything at the top level. Look at Guardiola at Barca, on a smaller level look at Blanc at Bordeaux. I don't think we should appoint Moyes or O'Neill, but neither do I think the candidate has to have won the CL.
For me it's currently between Blanc and Mourinho, with Ole and Bruce as outside bets, but who knows what the situation will be when SAF finally steps down - and personally I think he'll be at OT for another 2 or 3 years.
Capello after Euro 2012 will says goodbye to all, he will become (comeback to be) a pundit
Why will it never happen? Fergie has got to retire at some point. Presumably he wont be managing past 70. Fergie's retirement may even coincide with Mourinho's contract expiring at inter milan.
I dont understand these two choices at all
How can winning your domestic league be nothing to write home about?
[Guardiola]
1. Guardiola can do the coach, the manager, the chief...The guy was a genius as a player, and he is still a genius as a coach, a pure *********** and a tactical maestro
[Blanc]
2. Blanc has no experience (only 20 yrs as a professional at the highest level, France's captain at WC '98). He knows a lot about football, has the personality and the intellect to manage high professionals and youngsters
[Bruce]
3. Bruce is the English alternative, he showed sufficient abilities as a coach, he has the ability to get the best of his players (look at Bramble, Valencia, Bent...for example). He should be a decent low cost option
[Mourinho]
4. Too expansive, 14 million €/year, who is him? God? which improvement have you seen at Inter Milan. Nothing is changed, they play in the same way with the same results.
He thinks football in a defensive way, I don't want to see players like (Thiago Motta, Cambiasso, Muntari in the midfield) at Old Trafford. All average defensive midfielder, he bought Muntari for 15, and Motta for 20.
He is part of the Jorge Mendes' mafia, he wanted to bring also Deco, Carvalho to Milan. I don't want to see others Quaresmas (Nani is enough)
He is not worth 14 million/yr, I would prefer to give them to a great footballer (Pato, Iniesta...) not to a manger
That's pure speculation tbf. We haven't got a clue what type and level of contact he will be offered and what his terms of reference will be. I would imagine Fergie is on a fair whack atm, so a large salary may accrue but it won't be out of reach for the club.
I do know one thing, he is a born winner and has that 'united' winning mentality. I think if we are to sustain his success then he is the only viable choice.
Guardiola is the only one of the others who even comes close.
Steve Bruce is a romantic option but that's about it.
I think O'Neil probably deserves a chance at a big club but that's about it.
That ego and being a dick stuff is because he was an opposition manager, if he acted in exactly the same way but was our manager at the time we'd have all loved him and if he came and did the same with us in the future I've no doubt most will soon be loving it too.
He's one of those guys that you love on your own team but if he's on someone elses team he's a right twunt.
His wages are speculation and to be honest if he did take over and we 'just kept on in the same way' after winning the last three leagues I'd be pretty happy.
Not to mention that SAF is no doubt on a pretty penny anyway.
Spot on!
He's dominated a one horse race in Portugal, won a couple of league titles in England using the most expensive squad in the history of football, then gone one to lead another one horse race in Italy, while consistently under-performing in the the Champion's League (a competition in which he first made his name only thanks to an incompetent lines-man)
Hmmm...
Hmmm...
You're an intelligent man Pogue, surely you wouldn't deny his calibre.
I honestly have my doubts. The Chelsea squad he won the league with were mainly signed by his predecessors (with a shit-load of cash) and Avram fecking Grant came closer to winning the double with that squad than Mourinho ever did (he would have definitely won the league if they hadn't dropped so many points early in the season, under Mourinho).
Since then, he's done fine at Inter but they've been total wank in Europe and don't have much domestic competition.
I also have major doubts about Mourinho's record in the transfer market. He wasted a lot of money on players who never made the grade. United can't afford to be anywhere near that profligate, not with the current owners.
Since then, he's done fine at Inter but they've been total wank in Europe and don't have much domestic competition.
I also have major doubts about Mourinho's record in the transfer market. He wasted a lot of money on players who never made the grade. United can't afford to be anywhere near that profligate, not with the current owners.
The only time he won the champions league was when all the big clubs were in transition. Milan was the only club in good stead and they were beaten by Deportivo in a one-off result. Porto beat Marseille, Partizan, Man Utd(with a lot of luck, and it wasn't even that good a United side), Lyon, Deportivo and Monaco.
All the other times he's failed in the Champions League. Mourinho's good, he's just not THAT good or at least not proved it yet.
And I can only shake my head at the people who say his Chelsea side played good football.
Unforgettable, many players of that team have made that night their best career performance ever (Valeron, Fran, Pandiani, Luque, Naybet...heroes)
It was only seven points dropped in six games. We dropped seven in our first three matches.
Mourinho isn't the perfect manager for us, but the only one who is perfect for us is the one we currently have. When Fergie decides it's over, Mourinho is as good a shout as any. In terms of persona, I can't think of any manager in the world who would be more suited to replace Fergie - and I have to say that having the guts to take his place may be more important and vital than, say, a proven track record of bringing youngsters forward. Someone else, who may technically suit us better, might struggle in other departments. Who ever replaces Fergie will be entering hell. Mourinho would just love it.
The players loved him and that transposed into results and trophies.
I had the most respect for him over any other opposing manager.
I think the Premiership lost something speacial when he left, his interviews were priceless.
He won the champions league with Porto ffs!
So basically he's won everywhere he's gone. Sounds like an ideal candidate to replace Fergie.
He's a character but I still have doubts about him as a manager.
Having said that, Amir makes some good points and it's not like there's loads of other options out there.
Personally, I'd like to see Hiddink get the gig but that's incredibly unlikely.
If winning one horse races is a good judge of a jockey then yeah, sure.
You've got to make them one horse races.
In fairness, a fair few of our title successes around about 1999/2000/2001 were "one horse races". The competition wasn't up to much.
If you look at the points tallies of the second placed teams when Chelsea won the title, they were very high. It's just that Chelsea were getting 90+ points.
It was a one horse race because they were ruthlessly efficient at getting points.
We always have a wobble during the title race - it's ingrained into our DNA. For the two full seasons at Chelsea under Jose, they never looked like doing that. They never gave anyone a chance to make a fight of it.
Portugal's always been dominated by one or two teams and Mourinho can't take credit for the woes of Milan and Juve.
And the bedrocks of the currently highly rated side are Mourinho signings.
Winning is winning and its the only metric that Managers are and should be judged by.
And its no coincidence that Mourinho has happened to manage the dominant side in each league he's managed in. You simply can't argue with results.
But he didn't get Porto when they were on a high. He got them midway through a season that was their third in a row without winning the title. Then he won two in a row, including both the UEFA Cup and the Champions League. Whatever you may think about any of the competitions, winning four in two years is tremendous.
As for Italy, yeah, it's not the best or more impressive job he's done. But it still has to be done. I certainly wouldn't pick him because of what he's done at Inter, but if I add the rest, it's highly impressive.
This United job is about commanding respect, top-class man management and handling pressure. Tactical acumen (which he possesses in spade loads anyway) is kinda secondary.
Yeah, they all did itwith Lyons, Blanc has won it with Bordeaux breaking almost a whole decade of one team dominance with some very good management & signings. Ancelotti couldnt get Gourcuff to play, look at him now under Blanc.Ligue 1
It shouldn't be O Neill, it shouldn't be Bruce, and it most certainly shouldn't be Roy fecking Keane.
Not a chance. He wants nothing to do with Madrid's schizophrenic executive management gang, particularly after having dealt with Roman.
Unfortunately we need a special character, a winner to take over from Ferguson directly. Someone we know won't completely bottle the job taking over the greatest manager in British history. Someone like Mourinho is capable of handling that pressure, is someone like Blanc really?
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