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it shouldn't be Jose.
It wont be Martin O'Neil.
Or Steve Bruce.
Or Roy Keane.
If Blanc can win Ligue Un again the next couple of seasons and get them a respectable finish in the CL, he will be the prime candidate.
It wont be Martin O'Neil.
Or Steve Bruce.
Or Roy Keane.
If Blanc can win Ligue Un again the next couple of seasons and get them a respectable finish in the CL, he will be the prime candidate.
You're talking bullshit. They were horrible, gutless and soulless to watch. Gudjohnsen was really good but he hardly made them 'click'. Chelsea played like shit except for the 3 months that Robben played for them along with Duff.
And he was never particularly good in the transfer market. Most of his core players were already there or signed by Ranieri -- Makelele, Lampard, Cole, Duff(for a period of time), Cech, Robben(who I recall they had an agreement with to sign, having fended off United before Mourinho came). He had a lot of flop signings like Ferreira(for 13m
),Tiago, Kezman, Del Horno, SWP, Maniche on loan, Kalou, Boulharouz.. Drogba was a good signing but he was well known by then because of his performance in the UEFA cup. Essien was hardly a masterstroke, it looked at that time like they were just signing players to stop United from getting them.
I've left out Sheva and Ballack for obvious reasons..
jose is ok BUT he should coach Madrid first to get it out of his system
Going back to the OP, there was a discussion about Jose returning to the UK on one of the main football podcasts (Football Weekly or The Game I think) a couple of weeks ago, where a journo (Barclay I think) said that the Old Trafford job is the one Jose wants, saying that whenever he visits the ground to watch a game he always goes in the players entrance, and when he went to watch a CL game recently he arrived early and just sat in an empty box for half an hour looking at the stadium.
But the same journo also said that while Jose wants the job, several board members think he's wrong for the club, including Bobby Charlton who's voice carries a fair bit of weight. Supposedly Charlton thinks Mourinho is too arrogant, and not focussed enough on attacking football and youth development.
Not saying any of this is true, but interesting none the less. Does anyone else remember this? Someone else must have heard the same podcast...
But the same journo also said that while Jose wants the job, several board members think he's wrong for the club, including Bobby Charlton who's voice carries a fair bit of weight. Supposedly Charlton thinks Mourinho is too arrogant, and not focussed enough on attacking football and youth development.
Not saying any of this is true, but interesting none the less. Does anyone else remember this? Someone else must have heard the same podcast...
Mourinho or Steve Bruce for me.
Both know the English game well, but one also knows the European game very well. Mourniho would be the logical choice, but i'm all for giving an English manager a go at the top jobs though, and i'm sure Fergie would too if he thought they were the right man.
Both know the English game well, but one also knows the European game very well. Mourniho would be the logical choice, but i'm all for giving an English manager a go at the top jobs though, and i'm sure Fergie would too if he thought they were the right man.
I'd like to see Martin O'Neil take over.
I like O'Neil but I've not seen anything from Villa yet to suggest he'd be a good fit at United. They've not been particularly successful and they don't play particularly good football...
I can't see us appointing a manager without Sir Bobby Charlton's consent.
I'm not in favor of naming someone manager of the club merely because he is the most successful candidate who happens to have played for Manchester United. But at least we're not getting any posts on here about Mark Hughes "ticking all the boxes" any more, that's an improvement. But those suggesting Steve Bruce - would he even get a mention if he hadn't played here years ago? Good manager no doubt and I enjoy seeing him succeed, but he certainly wouldn't be in the running to head any other club of our stature.
Bruce has to be the top candiate from all our ex-players, hes done a fantastic job at every club hes been too and slowly moving up the ladder going to bigger an bigger clubs. I'm not saying he should be our manager but he shouldn't be ignored just because he hasn't yet managed one of the "big" clubs which would be his only chance of winning something.
Forget winning. He's only even finished in the top half of the table ONE TIME. And that was tenth place.
Not even remotely qualified.
I agree, look at Busby, look at Fergie - neither had strong links to the club prior to managing us, but both are now legends. We need to appoint the best man for the job - not the best ex-player.
Wouldn't be a risk IMO. He knows the club, is respected, his team plays good football, the fans love him and he would follow the SAF model and bring young players through. Good choice
What about Rafa?
Mourinho is the only one who is capable of taking over in SAF shoes. To even consider Blank or Brucie is a joke beyond words. Capello would be the only other alternative.
I'd say Sir Alex himself would have the biggest say.
Taking over from Sir Alex will probably be the toughest job in football and I'd say only Mourinho has the personality to handle it.
The romantic in me would love to see Cantona though.
What is special about him? He likes to spend so much and play with big stars. I don't think Jose is a good choice for us.
Blanc.
Mourinho has proven time and time again it's more about him than the club. He did very well at Porto, no-ones questioning that, but his time at Chelsea was a time when us and Arsenal were going through transition, and he had unlimited funds, and he still managed to feck that up in the end. His transfers at Italy have been very very poor, and his performance the other night in the Champions League was a joke. He seems to always try and make everything about him, and I don't want him near my club. Someone earlier posted the "Mourinho are you listening" chant, and it reminds me of singing that and despising Mourinho. I don't want him here.
Blanc on the other hand, young, managed to break the monoply in France (very much like Fergie did at Aberdeen), good business in the transfer market, seems to be able to coach big names (Gourcuff was convinced by Blanc to sign from Jose's Inter at the end of his loan, what a signing he's been) and has now just overthrown Bayern and Juve in his Champions League group, knocking one of them out. Very very impressive so far.
Mourinho has proven time and time again it's more about him than the club. He did very well at Porto, no-ones questioning that, but his time at Chelsea was a time when us and Arsenal were going through transition, and he had unlimited funds, and he still managed to feck that up in the end. His transfers at Italy have been very very poor, and his performance the other night in the Champions League was a joke. He seems to always try and make everything about him, and I don't want him near my club. Someone earlier posted the "Mourinho are you listening" chant, and it reminds me of singing that and despising Mourinho. I don't want him here.
Blanc on the other hand, young, managed to break the monoply in France (very much like Fergie did at Aberdeen), good business in the transfer market, seems to be able to coach big names (Gourcuff was convinced by Blanc to sign from Jose's Inter at the end of his loan, what a signing he's been) and has now just overthrown Bayern and Juve in his Champions League group, knocking one of them out. Very very impressive so far.
Good post, and hard to disagree with any of those points
2 league titles and an FA Cup isn't exactly a feck up. And was the reason for him leaving not down to Abramovich/Kenyon interfering?
Far too early to judge him on his transfers in Italy. I thought he was a bit of a cock at Chelsea too,but it worked.
Gourcuff came from Ancelotti's AC MIlan so no, he never got one over Mourinho.
Blanc has been impressive so far, but he also has his weaknesses and is relatively inexperienced. Nani Nana pointed this out somewhere in this thread.
You use the phrase "tactical approach" as though it's dirty. Have you watched us generally in Europe over the last 2-3 years? It's not as though we've been playing bucaneering, free flowing football. In most of the big games, we've gone with a cautious approach.
We've fecking played one of our most talented players on the left wing in virtually every match of any importance.
Don't be silly mate. Bruce is never going to have the pedigree to manage at the very top level. Blanc has been a manager for all of two minutes.
On points one and two: It's irrelevant that they were already there. If Mourinho had such an aversion to such players and such a style of football he wouldn't have played them, would he? As it happens, Robben's form and mentality dropped off and so did Duff's. As for Cole, you're talking cobblers - Jose bought the best out of him.
Point three: have a look at some of our team line ups/tactics over the last three years against the top sides. We often go cautious as well.
Jose is the man for United when SAF retires.
What about Moyes?
Ah sorry, I never knew he come from AC Milan, I can't believe they let him go! And his transfers worked at Chelsea, because he inherited a great great squad. And his reason was down to poor results, even Avram Grant managed to do better than Mourinho that season.
Mourinho is the only man big enough to fill the void left by Fergie imo.
We'll need a big personaliity and someone who wont bow under the pressure.
Jose is the only man for the job.
If we're talking about about playing beautiful football Arsenal have got that accolade sown up, we have failed to impress this season.
We'll need a big personaliity and someone who wont bow under the pressure.
Jose is the only man for the job.
If we're talking about about playing beautiful football Arsenal have got that accolade sown up, we have failed to impress this season.
It's actually slightly perverse, but I could accept Jose as United manager - though not because I want him here, it'd be because I'd hate to see him at Eastlands or Anfield...
fecked up I know, but he's such a charismatic cnut that I'd much rather he was our cnut than a Scouse or Bitter Cnut
fecked up I know, but he's such a charismatic cnut that I'd much rather he was our cnut than a Scouse or Bitter Cnut
Done a very average job consistantly, deserves a chance at a bigger club, but I'd be worried if it was here.
I like Moyes. In the same way that I like Bruce. But the problem is that they are managers for middle of the road teams.
Look at Hughes at City - he's not good enough for what they're trying to achieve.
I don't think a lot of managers being mentioned would bow under pressure. I mean Blanc must get a lot of intense scrutiny in his league, not as much as in England for sure, but the French league is a big league, and Blanc will be expected to keep up his current run.
He hasn't done an average job at all mate. He has been very, very good indeed. His record in the transfer market stands up to scrutiny and he has achieved some outstanding league positions.
But Everton is way less pressure than United.
Yes it seems strange, AC's loss however, and he will undoubtabley be another teams gain.
Ashley Cole, Michael Essien, Ricardo Carvalho and Didier Drogba were all Mourinho signings. None were cheap, or unknown but I think that is regardless here. He got them all playing well and they are among the most important members of the squad.
Ah I see. Didn't realise he walked for that reason, seems a bit premature from him.
Grant never won any trophies though...
Yeah, average is harsh, he has done above average, but he still hasn't done enough to warrant being involved in these discussion I feel. Still an F.A Cup win last year, and who knows how I'd feel I suppose.
Blanc is nowhere near a big enough character to take over Fergie's mantle. I wouldn't mention them in the same breath.
The pressure of the two clubs is in no way comparable.
You need a proper character if you want to talk about replacing Ferguson. Someone who has achieved in their own right. Managers who have won what Ferguson has won.
Mourinho, Wenger, Ancelotti, Lippi. Lippi is too old. Ancelotti and Wenger won't happen. It's Jose, for me.
I have to say I don't understand where Blanc is getting such a reputation, his experience seems quite limited.
This is my opinion. The step up is gargantuan. He wouldn't have the pulling power or respect that the very top managers do.
There's also the fact that he doesn't get on with our star turn.
It's funny isn't it. Terry doesn't slip, and suddenly Grant is a master manager, whose managed to win the Champions League in his first year. Our managers going to have to hope for a bit of luck in the job for sure.
And yes, he made some good signings, but he also unquestionably made some very poor ones. I wonder which transfers he had a say in though. I mean everyone says Joe Cole is a great signing, but can anyone remember when he was hardly getting games? And everyone thought he was a waste of money.
BTW- Who bought SHaun Wright Phillips? I genuinely can't remember.
Mourinho trophy haul is esquisite. He's a proven champion. I dont know what more people want!
He's won the league in three different countries, he won the CL, the UEFA Cup, FA Cups, Carling Cups, etc.
He is a proven winner, much like Fergie.
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