Man Utd board warming to Inter Milan boss Mourinho

Who should replace SAF after he retires ?

  • Jose Mourinho

    Votes: 270 58.1%
  • Laurent Blanc

    Votes: 61 13.1%
  • Steve Bruce

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Roy Keane

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

    Votes: 25 5.4%
  • Fabio Capello

    Votes: 10 2.2%
  • Pep Guardiola

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Arsene Wenger

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • Mark Hughes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 17 3.7%
  • Gus Hiddink

    Votes: 9 1.9%
  • Ottmar Hitzfeld

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Eric Cantona

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Alec McCleish

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Frank Rijkaard

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Louis Van Gaal

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Mike Phelan

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Carlos Quieroz

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Dick Advocaat

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Harry Redknapp

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Marcello Lippi

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Martin O'Neill

    Votes: 19 4.1%

  • Total voters
    465
  • Poll closed .
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Mourinho trophy haul is esquisite. He's a proven champion. I dont know what more people want!

He's won the league in three different countries, he won the CL, the UEFA Cup, FA Cups, Carling Cups, etc.

He is a proven winner, much like Fergie.

Average :lol:

Thing is, he basically nearly always pisses over the domestic league he's in.

Was unlucky at times in Europe - same as Ferguson.
 
It's funny isn't it. Terry doesn't slip, and suddenly Grant is a master manager, whose managed to win the Champions League in his first year. Our managers going to have to hope for a bit of luck in the job for sure.

And yes, he made some good signings, but he also unquestionably made some very poor ones. I wonder which transfers he had a say in though. I mean everyone says Joe Cole is a great signing, but can anyone remember when he was hardly getting games? And everyone thought he was a waste of money.

BTW- Who bought SHaun Wright Phillips? I genuinely can't remember.

I think we can accept that every manager makes poor signings, some more than others, some less so.

All in all though, Mourinho bought players in to create a twice title winning team and FA Cup winners. Along with his European Cup win I think he should be the prime candidate. No other manager comes close at the minute.
 
Blanc is nowhere near a big enough character to take over Fergie's mantle. I wouldn't mention them in the same breath.

I think Ferguson is a great. What I'd do for him to carry on forever.

But I do think Blanc is very strong mentally. I think Fergies mentioned before he regually talks to Blanc, and still has a very healthy relationship with him. Furthermore Blanc has played under Alex, and I think Alex greatly respected Blanc why he was here. Having close contact with Fergie would be a great benefit I feel.
 
Mourinho trophy haul is esquisite. He's a proven champion. I dont know what more people want!

He's won the league in three different countries, he won the CL, the UEFA Cup, FA Cups, Carling Cups, etc.

He is a proven winner, much like Fergie.

Average :lol:

I was talking about Moyes there!
 
I think Ferguson is a great. What I'd do for him to carry on forever.

But I do think Blanc is very strong mentally. I think Fergies mentioned before he regually talks to Blanc, and still has a very healthy relationship with him. Furthermore Blanc has played under Alex, and I think Alex greatly respected Blanc why he was here. Having close contact with Fergie would be a great benefit I feel.

That doesn't make him United calibre though. I think you will find SAF is close to most of the managers. He does a lot of work for the LMA and I believe when managers get the sack SAF is one of the first people on the phone offering condolences.
 
That doesn't make him United calibre though. I think you will find SAF is close to most of the managers. He does a lot of work for the LMA and I believe when managers get the sack SAF is one of the first people on the phone offering condolences.

True that, I live in Stoke, and a lot of the fans hate United (pretty small time) but last year before we played at the Britannia I had radio Stoke on and they were talking to Shawcross, and he said how Ferguson is constantly in touch helping him to improve, I've also heard Pulis say before how much Fergie helps.
 
True that, I live in Stoke, and a lot of the fans hate United (pretty small time) but last year before we played at the Britannia I had radio Stoke on and they were talking to Shawcross, and he said how Ferguson is constantly in touch helping him to improve, I've also heard Pulis say before how much Fergie helps.

He does seem to do a lot for ex-players etc. Makes you wonder where Fergie gets the time from.....












feck, the scousers were right!
 
He does seem to do a lot for ex-players etc. Makes you wonder where Fergie gets the time from.....












feck, the scousers were right!

My Grandad used to sum it up the best, "If I had to go home to Fergies wife every night, I'd try and spend as much time at the training ground as well"

:lol:
 
True that, I live in Stoke, and a lot of the fans hate United (pretty small time) but last year before we played at the Britannia I had radio Stoke on and they were talking to Shawcross, and he said how Ferguson is constantly in touch helping him to improve, I've also heard Pulis say before how much Fergie helps.

When Alan Curbishley got sacked by West Ham he was on the phone within half an hour. He lookes after them all. The amount of times I've heard about the post match glasses of red wine in interviews.
 
Great read...

The difference between Italy and England are immense, different worlds like Afghanistan (Italy) and Sweden (England)

Mourinho to United? It never will happen, more probably to City
 
We need someone who can control the current and future egos in the dressing room. A disciplinarian.

He might play a 'boring' style of play but that is mainly because his priority has always been defend properly first and foremost.

I am not sure I want him at United as well, but it is not the worst decision if we do get him.
 
Mourinho to United? It never will happen.

Why will it never happen? Fergie has got to retire at some point. Presumably he wont be managing past 70. Fergie's retirement may even coincide with Mourinho's contract expiring at inter milan.

2. Blanc
3. Bruce

I dont understand these two choices at all :confused:

Winning the Italian league is nothing to write home about TBF, even Mancini of all people managed to win it 3 times in a row.
How can winning your domestic league be nothing to write home about?
 
I think Maureen sits in pole position for the succession of SAF - others appear to be in the frame one minute, out the next - then there are new kids on the block, but Maureen is constantly there......... if you were sat in the boardroom, I feel you'd consider that he's the least likely to tilt our planet off its axis and turn us into overnight also rans....
 
The difference being ........

Don't Barca have a director of football who deals with transfers etc?

It's completely different. I read a good article a year or so back that basically said this. Ferguson has always had someone in alongside him doing the coaching of the side. Guardiola is closer to the players on the training field and they have that Txiki so and so character as sporting director dealing with player transfers and so on.
 
that's a wind up, right?


right?

No why would it be. I would have no problems whatsoever with Bruce taking over. How the hell is an English manager going to win anything unless they're given a chance at a top club?

Mclaren goes over to Holland and is pulling up trees over there, yet he's still seen as a laughing stock due to one poor qualification campaign. Bruce has done a great job with nearly every club he's been at, he seems to have very good connections in South America and finds players that you wouldn't expect for dirt cheap who usually end up moving on to bigger clubs. Valencia and Palacios are fine examples. Amir Zaki would probably be at a top club too if he wasn't such a prick. His teams play attacking football, yet are pretty solid at the back. He is by far the best ex-United player in management for me, Sparky has a bottomless pot of cash and spends 16 million of it on Wayne Bridge no thanks.

Personally i think he deserves to be mentioned and considered. Of course he hasn't won anything! How could you expect him to when the "big four" have a near iron grip on all the domestic trophies.
 
It's completely different. I read a good article a year or so back that basically said this. Ferguson has always had someone in alongside him doing the coaching of the side. Guardiola is closer to the players on the training field and they have that Txiki so and so character as sporting director dealing with player transfers and so on.

So it looks like the main difference is Fergie doesn't take the main lead in training where Guardiola does. Fergie has a say in transfers and Guardiola doesn't. Am I reading this right?

I struggle to believe that Guardiola doesn't have the ultimate say in tranfers in and out. These sporting directories sound like glorified scouts to me.
 
We need someone who can control the current and future egos in the dressing room. A disciplinarian.

He might play a 'boring' style of play but that is mainly because his priority has always been defend properly first and foremost.

I am not sure I want him at United as well, but it is not the worst decision if we do get him.

Chelsea didn't play boring in 04/05, far from it, and even in spells during 05/06 they played some great football. But Mourinho was under intense pressure to deliver after his owner spent a small fortune on signings so his plan was to not concede which often produces the best results. He had to develop that strategy for Europe which Chelsea came up short every year with him around.

I'd welcome him to OT with open arms (cue Creed music).
 
Winning the Italian league is nothing to write home about TBF, even Mancini of all people managed to win it 3 times in a row.

Umm... didn't Juventus win it two years on the trot only for Serie to "award" Inter the titles retroactively, which is a joke in all reality as it can never be proven Inter "would" have won the league.

And Inter's first "true" title in 06/07 was against a watered down league.
 
So it looks like the main difference is Fergie doesn't take the main lead in training where Guardiola does. Fergie has a say in transfers and Guardiola doesn't. Am I reading this right?

I struggle to believe that Guardiola doesn't have the ultimate say in tranfers in and out. These sporting directories sound like glorified scouts to me.

That's how I understand it.

It's not that Pep doesn't have a say in transfers, but he's not an autonomous decision maker. In contrast, Ferguson has the last say on all transfers.

Who knows, maybe someone like Pep could come in and adapt to a different role. But the role of manager is far more holistic than that of coach.
 
And the Glazer's (spit) have a reputation for investing in the best manager, if I remember what they did with their gridiron franchise.

When making this statement, you might want to consider what they did with their gridiron franchise this season. They appointed a 33 year old head coach with no previous head coaching experience, let alone experience as a coordinator. The reason why they hired him? Lack of funds available. Furthermore, they are also spending $30 million U.S. under the league mandated salary cap.
 
You're talking bullshit. They were horrible, gutless and soulless to watch. Gudjohnsen was really good but he hardly made them 'click'. Chelsea played like shit except for the 3 months that Robben played for them along with Duff.

One thing you couldn't accuse Mourinho's Chelsea side of is being 'gutless' and 'soulless'. Gudjohnses really was a brilliant player for them ad ridiculously underrated, there is a reason why Barcelona saw fit to sign him, and in his first season he didn't do to badly there.

Chelsea were slow startig in 04/05, yes, of course they were. They'd brought in a new manager and players, it was always going to take a month or two to settle. I wouldn't have expected anything different.

And he was never particularly good in the transfer market. Most of his core players were already there or signed by Ranieri -- Makelele, Lampard, Cole, Duff(for a period of time), Cech, Robben(who I recall they had an agreement with to sign, having fended off United before Mourinho came). He had a lot of flop signings like Ferreira(for 13m:wenger:),Tiago, Kezman, Del Horno, SWP, Maniche on loan, Kalou, Boulharouz..

Lampard and Terry have both acknowledged what Mourinho did for their careers many times, he really did turn them from very good players in extremely good players. Ferreira was brilliant in his first season, I really don't know what happened to him. £13m looked a bargain at the time. Of course he had a lot of flop signings, no-one is claiming he is perfect. Of course he has his flaws. Fergie signed the Djemba twins, Kleberson, Taibi, Miller etc. Wenger signed Jeffers for £8m FFS! Maniche was brilliant at Porto, so to take him on loan wasn't much of a risk. Kalou is still doing well know. I honestly don't know why SWP was bought. But you can bet Ambramovich probably had something to do with it.

Drogba was a good signing but he was well known by then because of his performance in the UEFA cup. Essien was hardly a masterstroke, it looked at that time like they were just signing players to stop United from getting them.

I've left out Sheva and Ballack for obvious reasons..

OK, this is just complete bollocks now. You're honestly criticising his transfer policy because he bought a well known player who'd done well with Marseille in the UEFA Cup? Lots of players have done extremely well in the UEFA Cup, they're not regularly signed for £20m+. And anyone who actually believes Essien was signed purely to stop United from getting him is stupid. Anyone who had seen him for Lyon knew he was going to be an extremely good player, hence why Chelsea were so determined to get him.
 
Lampard has always been a top player even when he was 19 at West Ham and Terry was made by Makelele sweeping in front of him which made him look impregnable. We have seen since Makelele's departure Terry isn't as collussus as first thought, although of course he is a good defender.

Of course Lampard has always been a top player, no-one is denying that, I'm certainly not, I'm just saying he seemed to go to another level upon Mourinho's arrival. Lampard himself has acknowledged that. The Terry argument is debatable, he's one of the players I really don't like very much but 04/05 and 05/06 he really was the best defender in World Football, certainly the top 2 or 3. Of course all that isn't down to Mourinho, but he played a part, again Terry himself has acknowledged this. Mourinho instilled a belief in his players and that is why they were so hard to beat whilst he was there.

Mourinho in my view has been fortunate. Of course he is a good manager, I do not dispute that, but let's get the facts right, if it was Monaco who beat Porto in the 2004 CL Final, we would have seen Deschamps at Chelsea, not Mourinho.

Of course he's been fortunate. Fergie was fortunate Robbins scored, fortunate Wilkinson allowed Cantona to leave. All managers need good fortune, and I really don't see how you can use that against him. I think the Mourinho deal had already been in place even before the CL Final, so I think you're wrong on that point. He knew he was leaving before the match had even been played.
He also inherited a very good, strong squad which had been in the CL and finishing in the Top Four for several seasons prior due to good work by Gullit, Vialli and Ranieiri especially. Oh yeah, and he walked into the job with a billionaire's backing and to a squad which had strength as mentioned, yet he made a few tweaks and bought some good signings and made them very, very good.....what's not to say Ranieiri, Deschamps or even Alan Curbishley could not have done the same given the opportunity and resources?
He then left Chelsea and went to where? Inter Milan, who had won the Serie A for the previous two seasons prior to that and another side backed by an oligarch-type figure in Moratti. Serie A has been seriously flawed since Juventus were demoted and Milan grew old, Inter have basically pissed it or cantered to it without massive difficulty the last few years.

He came in, broke pretty much every record in the book when winning his first title. Was unlucky not to reach the CL Final, won the Carling Cup. His team destroyed pretty much every other team in the league. You can't honestly say that if Curbishley came in he'd have done the same? There's so much more to being a manager than just signing the players and picking the tactics. Another thing about Mourinho's teams is the belief they have within themselves, something United have always had under Fergie. Now you're criticising him for winning the title with Inter? Yes of course it's been flawed and it isn't hugely competitive, but he's there, he's winning, and that's all that matters. By your argument, whoever replaces Fergie when he leaves can have whatever he accomplishes diminished, simply because he inherited a 'very good squad.'

That's why if City finish in the UEFA or even finish in the Top Four (unlikely, but they have a strong squad for the second half of the season), I think we will see Mourinho lured to Eastlands to take over the helm, and why? Because he'll be given endless funds in a very strong established squad, be back in the English media spotlight who kiss his arse with all his quirkiness and arrogance and of course be able to pit his wits against Ferguson one last time at one of our rivals. Mourinho doesn't want to be Ferguson's replacement, he wants to be his equal and even successor in the trophy stakes by the time he's the same age.

feck Mourinho, I don't want him nowhere near Old Trafford as our manager.

Yes, but one of the reasons I think he fell out of love with Chelsea was the huge, huge pressure to succeed, and Abramovich having the final say.. Obviously there would be pressure at United, but not as much as there would be at Chelsea. Remember, he had a fire-happy Chairman at Chelsea who liked to meddle in affairs that should be left for the manager, I think he'd be wary of the same thing happening at City.

Ask Fergie who should replace him when he steps down, and Mourinho will be the answer. I'm sure Fergie and Gill have had this conversation, and I am 99.9% certain Mourinho will be our next manager.
 
it shouldn't be Jose.
It wont be Martin O'Neil.
Or Steve Bruce.
Or Roy Keane.
If Blanc can win Ligue Un again the next couple of seasons and get them a respectable finish in the CL, he will be the prime candidate.

Ligue 1:lol: Seriously? Are you actually being serious? Le Guen won Ligue 1 remember, and look how badly he did at Rangers. Houllier one Ligue 1, Alain Perrin did for gods sake!

It shouldn't be O Neill, it shouldn't be Bruce, and it most certainly shouldn't be Roy fecking Keane.
 
If Blanc goes far in the Champions League with his squad, and establishes dominance in France for some time, and can hold on to Gourcuff, he would be my pick
 
If Blanc goes far in the Champions League with his squad, and establishes dominance in France for some time, and can hold on to Gourcuff, he would be my pick

Le Guen went far with in the CL with his squad, and established dominance in France.

Then he went to Rangers.....
 
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